What will you do for Election Reform if the Dems win?

[Bill Bored]

I notice this forum is pretty dead lately. I suppose everyone is busy working on real election reform or real elections (or fake elections as the case may be). I guess that's cool.

But suppose the Dems manage to win back the House and/or Senate. What will you do about Election Reform then?

If the pendulum swings will it be the end of the "movement" as we know it?

Will the Pukes get more involved? Will you work with them if they do?

Will you work on voting rights and forget about the machines?

And what if the Exit Polls say the Pukes won, and the vote count says it's the Dems?

Post responses here, and don't forget to vote! :)

[MadMaddie]

1. I would make it illegal for any voting machines to be privately

owned....the voting machines would be created by the US government and shipped out to all states...

I would make the ballots consistant in all states same look, easy to read easy to understand.....

I would raise the crime level for voter tampering, machine tampering, voter intimidation punishable by 15-20 years...

For each state especially Ohio(Ken Blackwell)if the person that in charge of voting in that state opts to run for public office he/she must vacate their position of being in charge of Voting....this removes conflict of interest...

I could go on but this is where I would start...

[Bill Bored]

2. Not bad for the first 100 hours! nt

[MadMaddie]

3. Why thank you....

:hi:

[stillcool]

4. I want...

an amendment guaranteeing our right to vote. A uniform system with uniform laws regarding polling places, hours, how elections are run...one size fits all, but specific laws that follow the entire process, with serious consequences for any deviation.

[yourout]

5. I want a Federal Elections Commision that is a true....

bi-partisan entity.

I want this commision to oversee balloting of ALL National elections.
I want all National elections to have the same simple ballots.
I want all National elections on PAPER ballots.
I want all National elections to have manditory random audits.

[diva77]

6. Fight for hand-counted-paper-ballots (HCPB)

and establish infrastructure for it to be implemented

look into creating some way to enforce election code - many judges are not up to date on technology and not qualified to rule on the high tech challenges going on and they defer to elections officials rather than citizens

[livvy]

7. I agree with MM's ideas, and I would add clean elections.

I would work towards public financing of elections. The Buckley vs Valeo decision needs to be overturned before true clean money/clean elections could take place. (I like to shoot high.)

[Stevepol]

8. I agree with all & of course I'd be overjoyed to work with Repubs of good will.

This issue of fair elections, especially fairly counted elections and restoring our democracy, is or should be the most non-partisan issue in the country. All people of good will should be welcomed on board.

But I believe with others that the laws passed should be very thorough and uniform and consistent, etc.

Of course all this is assuming the Dems win. I know they will win in "reality," and by a large margin, but right now our election system doesn't take place "in reality": it takes place in cyberspace and it's fraudulently programmed and hacked and patched to suit the criminal vendors.

[Febble]

9. since you asked....

If the exit polls say the Republicans won and the vote count says it's the Dems, then I will assume the vote count is a better reflection of the true vote than the exit polls.

But the fact that I won't KNOW that the vote count is a better reflection of the true vote than the exit polls will continue to annoy the hell out of me!

Get it sorted (as we say in Nottingham), and GOOD LUCK!!!!!

PS latest from Larry Sabato:

No one credibly argues that Democrats aren't going to win at least 3 or 4 Senate seats, bringing the GOP down to 51 or 52 seats. But increasingly it looks like they will win five (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Montana, and Rhode Island, in that order, and at least one of Missouri, Virginia, or Tennessee). To get the magic 6 they need for control, Democrats need 2 of those 3. Gravy would be all 3, giving them a 52 seat majority.

And there is already fraud in Tennessee.

[JimDandy]

11. I'm all for non-partisanship regarding election integrity and reform.

The health of our democracy demands that. Therefore, if the exit polls say the Republicans won and the vote count says it's the Democrats, I will demand that both systems be studied for error and fraud: that the vote count be recounted and the chain of custody of the election returns be independently assessed, and that the underlying documentation supporting the exit polls be released to at least two qualified entities for independent analysis.

[Febble]

12. That seems reasonable

I just have two caveats:

One is that exit polls are not well designed to detect fraud (and audit protocols based on the exit poll model are unlikely to be very useful either; you need proper random audits of entire precincts with very low tolerances for error; any mismatch between audit and official account should trigger a full hand recount, IMO).

The other is that there are many forms of electoral injustice and fraud that prevent people even getting to the polls - those won't show up in either an audit or an exit poll, but probably cost Democrats a large number of votes in every election.

If you are going to have a just electoral system all this needs fixing, whether or not the candidates that correspond to the choice of the majority actually get past the post.

[nashville_brook]

10. gotta love crocodile tears

your post suggests that DU Dems are only interested in Election Fraud b/c we (wrongly) believe 2000, 2002 and 2004 were stolen.

the divisiveness is unnecessary. there's no OUT-GROUPS here. we aren't working at cross-purposes with the rest of the Democratic Party.

we've done our research proving our case over and over and over again. visit the Demopedia for a little taste. if you donate you can search the archives. it's all there.

Election Fraud and Voter Suppression are real INSULTS to our democracy, and it's that INSULT that helps me deal with INSULTS like yours day after day.

[status quo buster]

13. A whole set of electoral reforms

are fully examined in the bold new book Delusional Democracy - Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government; it is the only book or article to make a compelling case for a set of reforms being needed, in contrast to a great many groups that simply work for one reform; check it out at www.delusionaldemocracy.com.

[Bill Bored]

14. kick nt

[jarnocan]

15. MY signs in WDC said Election FRAUD KILLS. pic

http://flickr.com/photos/jarnocan/
JUST got home am uploading more pics. GREAT trip, and YES we did make phone calls:) So no more complaining:) someone said they could hear us election night during media coverage BTW.
I also got off the bus in Greenbelt Maryland early Monday eve (rush hour) and joined a couple Steele repub political operatives, as they handed out literature I stodd with my sign and chanted "Election FRAUD KILLS Don't let them STEELE the election " occasionally adding a few comments like- he's a fraud etc.
I tired not to be harsh of course- saved that voice for GEORGE.
After hearing the reports of them rounding up homeless people from shelters and bussing them to minority neighborhoods to distribute bogus/misleading flyers-which looked like they were from dems.
DANG I'm glad I did that little bit. Election FRAUD is a crime against U.S. democracy! grrrrr...
OK but I'm very happy over all:)