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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:04 PM
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3,000,000 MISSING VOTES – WTF!!! Election Reform News Nov.20, 2006
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:30 PM by autorank

3,000,000 MISSING VOTES!!!



They have not given up. Neither will we!


What Really Happened On November 7th?


That unadjusted poll indicated that the Democrats' 2006 total House vote margin was 11.5%, or nearly 4% greater than the 7.6% reported vote count margin.9 This represents nearly a three million vote discrepancy between the validated exit poll results and the reported vote tally for the US House of Representatives. What could account for such a dramatic difference?


It will no doubt be objected that if such substantial manipulation of the vote counts is possible, why would it stop short of bringing about a general electoral victory? While we would like to credit the heightened scrutiny engendered by the untiring efforts of election integrity groups, an awakening media, and a more informed and vigilant public, an alternative, more chilling, explanation has been suggested? simply that the mechanics of manipulation (software modules, primarily) had to be deployed before late breaking pre-election developments greatly expanded the gap that such manipulation would have been calibrated to cover.



Landslide Denied: Exit Polls vs. Vote Count 2006
Under-sampling of Democrats in the House Exit Poll and
the Corruption of the Official Vote Count
- Jonathan Simon, JD, and Bruce O’Dell -
Election Defense Alliance
http://tinyurl.com/y5fk4r

Never forget the pursuit of Truth.
Only the deluded & complicit accept election results on blind faith.


Election Reform, Fraud, & Related News November 20, 2006


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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:07 PM
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1. Thanks auto for this work, well deserved R&R, K&R
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:18 AM
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27. In some "unevolved" countries...
...they drop a marble into a container for the candidate they want. They count the marbles.

How hard is that?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:07 PM
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2. NATION: WHERE ARE THE MISSING HOUSE VOTES – 3,000,000
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:55 PM by autorank
WE ARE NOT DONE YET. They’re still at it, just not as effective and obviously without the prior sanction that caused corporate media to shut down on obvious problems. The CM is not up to speed yet but it’s better than before. When they get around to being serious about election fraud, there’s a nice built in article right here – MEDIA ALERT



They never gave up, how can we?



Landslide Denied: Exit Polls vs. Vote Count 2006
Under-sampling of Democrats in the House Exit Poll
and the Corruption of the Official Vote Count
Jonathan Simon, JD, and Bruce O’Dell
Election Defense Alliance


http://tinyurl.com/y5fk4r

Vote count discrepancy?

If the weighted but unadjusted Election Night exit poll is valid as indicated, then it must be the reported vote tally which is inaccurate.(11) Although this is, to put it mildly, an unwelcome finding, it is unfortunately consonant with analyses we are currently performing of the many specific incidents of vote-switching and mistabulation reported in 2006, and with a host of other evidence and analysis that has emerged about electronic voting technology as deployed in the United States.

We have argued that there is a remarkable degree of consensus among computer scientists,(12) security professionals,(13) government agencies,(14) and independent analysts(15)that U.S. electronic vote tallying technology is vulnerable to unintentional programming errors(16) and to deliberate manipulation—certainly by foul-play-minded insiders at voting equipment vendors, but also by other individuals with access to voting equipment hardware or software.(17)

We have a system of “faith-based” voting where we are simply asked to trust the integrity of the count produced by the machines that tally our votes, with little if any effective checks and balances. In the context of yet another election replete with reported problems with vote tallying,(18) the continuing mismatch between the preferences expressed by voters as captured in national exit polls, and the official vote tally as reported to the public is extremely disturbing.

Conclusion

While the reported results of the 2006 election were certainly well-received by the Democratic party and were ballpark-consistent with public expectations, the unadjusted 2006 exit poll data indicates that what has been cast as a typical midterm setback for a president in his second term was something rather more remarkable – a landslide repudiation of historic proportions.

We believe that the degree of statistical distortion now required to force exit polls to match the official tally is the clearest possible warning that the ever-growing catalog of reported vulnerabilities in America’s electronic vote counting systems are not only possible to exploit, they are actually being exploited.

Any system so clearly at risk of interference and gross manipulation can not and should not be trusted to tally the votes in any future elections.


Footnotes:



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:47 PM
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14. TruthIsAll has some ideas on where they are...
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:50 PM by autorank
THE DEMOCRATIC TSUNAMI

Some in the media are making an argument that electronic vote
switching could not have occurred since the Democrats easily
won the House and just barely squeaked out a majority in the
Senate. 

A recent DU poster wrote a very long, comprehensive OP in
which he posed the question: If there was malicious electronic
vote switching, how come it didn't result in a GOP win? He
stated that since the Democrats won, he "believes"
it is strong evidence that there was no switching in 2000,2002
and 2004. As if the possibility of switching exists only if
the GOP won. While we were still reeling from that assertion,
he delivered the final blow to rational thought by
hypothesizing that if switching did in fact occur it was due
to touch screen "miscalibration". Well, that's just
another media myth. The 2004 EIRS database documented that
over 95% of reported screen switches were from Kerry to Bush.
The poster's arguments were totally without logical foundation
and only served to detract attention from good points that
were made in the OP.
 
The following analysis estimates the effects of vote switching
in the 61 House GOP seats that were in play. It also
determines which seats were the most likely candidates for
fraud.

KEY MODEL RESULTS
In a fraud-free election, the model projected that Democrats
would win the House by a 242D-193R majority- a 49-seat margin.
With the above fraud assumptions factored into the model, the
majority becomes 227D-208R, a 19 seat margin. The margin as of
today is 34 seats (231D-197R), with 7
undecided. Four of the seven undecided seats are GOP-held.

The Democrats needed to win 15 GOP-held seats for House
control. So far, they have won 29. The purpose of this
analysis is to estimate the number of seats the Democrats lost
due to uncounted votes and vote switching. 

THE MODEL PROJECTED THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN 40 OF 61 GOP-HELD
SEATS, ASSUMING NO FRAUD. IT ALSO PROJECTED THAT 16 OF THE 40
SEATS WOULD REVERT TO THE GOP THROUGH A COMBINATION OF VOTE
SWITCHING AND UNCOUNTED BALLOTS. 

AS OF TODAY, 16 RACES (INCLUDING 3 STILL UNDECIDED) HAVE
SWITCHED. 

Based on the Monte Carlo simulation, the Democrats were on
track to win at least 40 of 61 GOP-held seats in play. In
order to keep them from picking up the 15 GOP seats they
needed, the GOP had to steal at least 26 of the 40 seats. To
accomplish this, they needed to switch at least 8% of the
votes. But the GOP could not overcome the Democratic tsunami
and fell at least 14 seats (29-15) short. (note: the shortfall
does not include the 7 seats still undecided). 

So why was the GOP unable to steal the 26 seats? The answer:
political and operational constraints held the maximum
feasible amount of switching to 5% of democratic votes.
Anything more than that would have been highly persuasive
evidence of election fraud. The 116 pre-election Generic poll
trend projected a 14% Democratic margin. How do you explain
beating that?

The best the GOP could hope for was to MINIMIZE the Democratic
majority in the House, subject to the 5% CONSTRAINT.

MONTE CARLO SIMULATION MODEL ASSUMPTIONS					
(applied to all 61 elections) 

1) Uncounted ballots: 
3% of total votes cast are never counted (spoiled, lost,
discarded, etc.) 75% of the uncounted votes are Democratic.
The evidence for this assumption is overwhelming: in EVERY
election the majority of spoiled votes occur in Democratic
minority precincts.

2) Switched votes: 
4% of Democratic votes were shifted to the Republicans. 

3) Undecided Voter Allocation (UVA):
60% of undecided voters breaking to the Democrats is a
conservative estimate, especially in this election. Voters
were extremely motivated to kick the GOP incumbents out. In a
historical study of 155 incumbent elections prior to 2006, the
majority of undecided voted for the challenger
in 127 elections (82% of 155). They voted for the incumbent in
19. The other 9 were evenly split. Democratic incumbents won
ALL House and Senate elections. This was an unprecedented
landslide, much bigger than the official results indicate.

VOTE SHARES AND MARGINS: 2004 DEJA VU
The total decline in Democratic margin due to fraud was 4.9%,
a combination of uncounted ballots (3%) and vote switching
(4%).

In 2004, Kerry's 51.50-48.50% 2-party margin in the 12:22am
National Exit poll was transformed to the recorded Bush
51.24-48.76% win in the Final 2pm NEP, a 5.5% decline. The
Final NEP was matched to the vote count. 

In 2006, there was a 6.6% decrease in Democratic margin from
the pre-election Generic poll trend line to the Final NEP. The
difference is further confirmation of fraud. The 116 Generic
Poll trend line projection 51.84D-38.60R is equivalent to
57.3D-42.7R (2-party), a 14.6% margin. In the Final National
Exit Poll, updated 11/08 at 1pm on CNN, the 2-party average
was 54.0D-46.0R, an 8% margin. The Final 2006 NEP was matched
to the recorded vote.

In 2006, the Simulation Model pre-fraud and post-fraud
forecast of 61-GOP held seats resulted in a 4.9% decrease in
the average Democratic margin. It declined from 51.25D-48.75R
pre-fraud to 48.80D-51.20R post-fraud. The 4.9% decline was
far below what was needed by the Republicans to win the House.

Summarizing the Democratic 2-party decrease in margin:
2004: 12:22am National Exit Poll to the recorded vote: 5.5%
2006: Pre-election Generic Poll trend line to the Final NEP:
6.6%
2006: Forecast Model of 61 GOP-held seats, pre-fraud to
post-fraud: 4.9%

__________________________________________________________

Model Forecast (61 GOP-held seats)
Seats Won:    Dem	GOP		
No Fraud 	 40	21 (242D-193R)		
Fraud	        25	36 (227D-208R)

Actual         29    28 (231D-197R)
Note: 4 of the 7 undecided seats are among the 61 GOP-held.

Simulation Model Input Assumptions:
Polling MoE:3.0%	
Undecided Voter Allocation to Dems (UVA):60% 

Simulation Output:
Expected Democratic Win: 40 seats	

Probability Analysis 1: 
Democrats win at least N seats for various UVA
UVA	50	55	60	67	75		
N	Probability 
38	15	57	92	100	100		
40	0	8	40	92	100		
42	0	0	2	27	88		

Probability Analysis 2: 
Democrats win at least N seats assuming 60% UVA
N	36	37	38	39	40	41	42
Prob	100	98	92	72	40	11	2

House	Seats:						
Dems	238	239	240	241	242	243	244
GOP	197	196	195	194	193	192	191

The following table shows the relationship between the
percentage of votes
switched and the number of races stolen. The 4% vote-switching
assumption
equates to 15 stolen seats. The model indicates that with 7
races still
undecided, the 4% vote switching scenario is close to the
actual result
(see "ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS" below). 
 	
Votes% 0	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
Races	 1	4	8	14	15	18	21	22	26	29	33	35

These are the 15 seats where fraud was most likely to have
occurred:
IL-6, OH-15, NM-1, NY-29, CT-4
PA-6, KY-4, NC-8, OH-2, IL-10
OH-1, FL-13, CO-4, AZ-1, FL-24
__________________________________________________________

PRE-ELECTION POLLS, PRE AND POST-FRAUD PROJECTIONS

UND - undecided 
SwPr - projected switch from Dem to GOP
SwAct - actual switch from Dem to GOP

	Pre-electionPoll	        Projection	Dem	      Proj. (fraud)  
Actual 	
HOUSE	         Dem	GOP		Dem	GOP	Prob		Dem	GOP	Dem    GOP   
Win  SwPr SwAct
	Avg	46.5	45.7		51.2	48.8	99%		48.8	51.2	50.0	50.0	29	16	16
															
1	AZ 1	38	41		50.6	49.4	78		48.2	51.8	45.3	54.7		Yes	Yes
2	AZ 5	48	46		51.6	48.4	98		49.1	50.9	52.6	47.4	Yes	Yes	
3	AZ 8	53	41		56.6	43.4	100		54.0	46.0	56.3	43.8	Yes		
4	CA 4	43	50		47.2	52.8	0		44.9	55.1	47.4	52.6			
5	CA 11	48	46		51.6	48.4	98		49.1	50.9	65.0	35.0	Yes	Yes	
 
6	CA 50	41	55		43.4	56.6	0		41.2	58.8	41.2	58.8			
7	CO 4	43	44		50.8	49.2	85		48.4	51.6	48.3	51.7		Yes	Yes
8	CO 5	42	51		46.2	53.8	0		43.9	56.1	42.7	57.3			
9	CO 7	54	38		58.8	41.2	100		56.1	43.9	56.7	43.3	Yes		
10	CT 2	48	47		51.0	49.0	90		48.6	51.4	50.5	49.5	Yes	Yes	

11	CT 4	51	44		54.0	46.0	100		51.5	48.5	48.5	51.5			Yes
12	CT 5	46	43		52.6	47.4	100		50.1	49.9	56.0	44.0	Yes		
13	FL 13	49	47		51.4	48.6	97		48.9	51.1	50.0	50.0	UND	Yes	Yes
14	FL 16	48	41		54.6	45.4	100		52.0	48.0	50.5	49.5	Yes		
15	FL 22	50	48		51.2	48.8	94		48.7	51.3	52.0	48.0	Yes	Yes	

16	FL 24	43	45		50.2	49.8	60		47.8	52.2	43.0	57.0	UND	Yes	Yes
17	ID 1	38	34		54.8	45.2	100		52.2	47.8	47.4	52.6			Yes
18	IL 6	54	40		57.6	42.4	100		54.9	45.1	48.0	52.0			Yes
19	IL 10	48	46		51.6	48.4	98		49.1	50.9	47.0	53.0		Yes	Yes
20	IL 14	42	52		45.6	54.4	0		43.3	56.7	40.0	60.0			

21	IL 19	36	53		42.6	57.4	0		40.5	59.5	40.0	60.0			
22	IN 2	50	47		51.8	48.2	99		49.3	50.7	54.0	46.0	Yes	Yes	
23	IN 8	53	43		55.4	44.6	100		52.8	47.2	61.0	39.0	Yes		
24	IN 9	46	46		50.8	49.2	85		48.4	51.6	55.1	44.9	Yes	Yes	
25	IA 1	49	42		54.4	45.6	100		51.8	48.2	56.1	43.9	Yes		

26	IA 2	48	50		49.2	50.8	15		46.8	53.2	51.0	49.0	Yes		
27	KS 2	na			na	na	na		na	na	52.0	48.0	Yes		
28	KY 3	52	44		54.4	45.6	100		51.8	48.2	51.5	48.5	Yes		
29	KY 4	45	42		52.8	47.2	100		50.3	49.7	45.3	54.7			Yes
30	MN 1	47	50		48.8	51.2	6		46.4	53.6	53.0	47.0	Yes		

31	MN 2	42	50		46.8	53.2	0		44.5	55.5	40.6	59.4			
32	MN 6	42	49		47.4	52.6	0		45.1	54.9	45.7	54.3			
33	NV 3	39	46		48.0	52.0	0		45.7	54.3	49.5	50.5			
34	NH 1	40	49		46.6	53.4	0		44.3	55.7	51.0	49.0	Yes		
35	NH 2	46	47		50.2	49.8	60		47.8	52.2	54.1	45.9	Yes	Yes	

36	NJ 7	43	46		49.6	50.4	30		47.2	52.8	54.1	45.9			
37	NM 1	53	44		54.8	45.2	100		52.2	47.8	50.0	50.0	UND		Yes
38	NY 3	44	51		47.0	53.0	0		44.7	55.3	44.0	56.0			
39	NY 19	49	47		51.4	48.6	97		48.9	51.1	51.0	49.0	Yes	Yes	
40	NY 20	53	42		56.0	44.0	100		53.4	46.6	53.0	47.0	Yes		

41	NY 24	53	42		56.0	44.0	100		53.4	46.6	54.5	45.5	Yes		
42	NY 26	46	50		48.4	51.6	2		46.0	54.0	48.0	52.0			
43	NY 29	53	42		56.0	44.0	100		53.4	46.6	49.0	51.0			Yes
44	NC 8	48	44		52.8	47.2	100		50.3	49.7	50.0	50.0	UND		Yes
45	NC 11	48	43		53.4	46.6	100		50.9	49.1	54.0	46.0	Yes		

46	OH 1	48	46		51.6	48.4	98		49.1	50.9	47.0	53.0		Yes	Yes
47	OH 2	48	45		52.2	47.8	100		49.7	50.3	49.0	51.0	UND	Yes	Yes
48	OH 15	53	41		56.6	43.4	100		54.0	46.0	49.0	51.0			Yes
49	OH 18	53	33		61.4	38.6	100		58.6	41.4	62.0	38.0	Yes		
50	OK 5	37	59		39.4	60.6	0		37.4	62.6	37.8	62.2			

51	PA 4	47	51		48.2	51.8	1		45.9	54.1	52.5	47.5	Yes		
52	PA 6	49	44		53.2	46.8	100		50.7	49.3	49.0	51.0			Yes
53	PA 7	52	44		54.4	45.6	100		51.8	48.2	57.0	43.0	Yes		
54	PA 8	50	47		51.8	48.2	99		49.3	50.7	50.5	49.5	Yes	Yes	
55	PA 10	47	38		56.0	44.0	100		53.4	46.6	53.0	47.0	Yes		

56	TX 22	36	28		57.6	42.4	100		54.9	45.1	55.3	44.7	Yes		
57	VA 2	43	51		46.6	53.4	0		44.3	55.7	49.0	51.0			
58	VA 5	35	61		37.4	62.6	0		35.5	64.5	40.4	59.6			
59	VA 10	42	47		48.6	51.4	3		46.2	53.8	41.8	58.2			
60	WA 8	45	51		47.4	52.6	0		45.1	54.9	50.0	50.0			
61	WI 8	51	45		53.4	46.6	100		50.9	49.1	51.0	49.0	Yes		
															
.
__________________________________________________________

ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS AND PRE-ELECTION POLL NUMBERS FOR 61
GOP SEATS
SORTED BY DEMOCRATIC WIN PROBABILITY
.
Result: 29 Dem, 29 GOP, 3 Undecided
Note: The Dem total includes KS-2 which is not in the
following table
.
.......Poll	Dem	GOP	Prob	Winner
11/05  Avg   46.5   45.7    79%	29D
.
Group 1: 8 Dem, 4 GOP, 1 UND
.
1	CO 7	54	38	100.0%	Dem
2	OH 18	53	33	100.0%	Dem
3	IL 6	54	40	100.0%	GOP
4	TX 22	36	28	100.0%	Dem
5	AZ 8	53	41	100.0%	Dem
.
6	OH 15	53	41	100.0%	GOP?
7	NY 20	53	42	100.0%	Dem
8	NY 24	53	42	100.0%	Dem
9	NY 29	53	42	100.0%	GOP
10	PA 10	47	38	100.0%	Dem
.
11	IN 8	53	43	100.0%	Dem
12	ID 1	38	34	100.0%	GOP
13	NM 1	53	44	100.0%	UND
.					
******FRAUD ALERT********************************				
.
Group 2: 16 Dem, 10 GOP, 1 UND
.
1	FL 16	48	41	100.0%	Dem
2	IA 1	49	42	100.0%	Dem
3	KY 3	52	44	100.0%	Dem
4	PA 7	52	44	100.0%	Dem
5	CT 4	51	44	100.0%	GOP
.
6	NC 11	48	43	100.0%	Dem
7	WI 8	51	45	100.0%	Dem
8	PA 6	49	44	100.0%	GOP?
9	KY 4	45	42	99.8%	GOP
10	NC 8	48	44	99.8%	GOP
.
11	CT 5	46	43	99.6%	Dem
12	OH 2	48	45	98.8%	GOP?
13	IN 2	50	47	96.8%	Dem
14	PA 8	50	47	96.8%	Dem
15	AZ 5	48	46	95.1%	Dem
.
16	CA 11	48	46	95.1%	Dem
17	IL 10	48	46	95.1%	GOP
18	OH 1	48	46	95.1%	GOP
19	FL 13	49	47	92.6%	GOP?
20	NY 19	49	47	92.6%	Dem
.
21	FL 22	50	48	89.2%	Dem
22	CT 2	48	47	84.9%	Dem
23	CO 4	43	44	79.5%	GOP
24	IN 9	46	46	79.5%	Dem
25	AZ 1	38	41	73.2%	GOP
.
26	FL 24	43	45	58.2%	UND
27	NH 2	46	47	58.2%	Dem
.
*******END FRAUD ALERT***************************				
.					
Group 3: 4 Dem, 15 GOP, 1 IND

1	NJ 7	43	46	34.0%	GOP
2	IA 2	48	50	20.5%	Dem
3	MN 1	47	50	10.8%	Dem
4	VA 10	42	47	7.4%	GOP
5	NY 26	46	50	4.9%	GOP
.
6	PA 4	47	51	3.2%	Dem
7	NV 3	39	46	2.0%	GOP
8	MN 6	42	49	0.4%	GOP
9	WA 8	45	51	0.4%	UND
10	CA 4	43	50	0.2%	GOP
.
11	NY 3	44	51	0.1%	GOP
12	MN 2	42	50	0.0%	GOP
13	NH 1	40	49	0.0%	Dem
14	VA 2	43	51	0.0%	GOP
15	CO 5	42	51	0.0%	GOP
.
16	IL 14	42	52	0.0%	GOP
17	CA 50	41	55	0.0%	GOP
18	IL 19	36	53	0.0%	GOP
19	OK 5	37	59	0.0%	GOP
20	VA 5	35	61	0.0%	GOP
.

OH-15: Rep. Deborah Pryce (news, bio, voting record), a member
of the House Republican leadership, leads Democrat Mary Jo
Kilroy race by 3,536 votes. Thousands of provisional ballots
will be counted beginning Nov. 19 — a day later than normal in
deference to the Ohio State-Michigan football game Nov. 18.

NM-1: Republican Rep. Heather Wilson (news, bio, voting
record) led Democrat Patricia Madrid by fewer than 1,500 votes
out of more than 200,000 cast, with about 3,700 ballots
remaining to be qualified and tallied.

NC-8: Rep. Robin Hayes (news, bio, voting record), a
Republican, had a449-vote lead over Democrat Larry Kissell.
About 1,500 provisional ballots remained to be counted.

OH-2: Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Republican who called decorated
Vietnam veteran Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record) a
coward, was ahead of Democrat Victoria Wulsin by about 2,300
votes. Counting provisional and absentee ballots could take
nearly two weeks.

FL-13: A recount began Monday in the contest for the seat Rep.
Katherine Harris (news, bio, voting record) gave up to make
her failed Senate run. The Associated Press has declared a
winner in that race: Republican Vern Buchanan, who leads
Democrat Christine Jennings by about 375 votes, or less
than 0.02 percent.

WA-8: GOP Rep. Dave Reichert led Democrat Darcy Burner by
about 3,500 votes, but many ballots in this heavily
vote-by-mail state remained to be counted.

FL-24: Clint Curtis (D) is contesting the election with Tom
Feeney (R). Curtis has testified under oath that in 2000 he
was approached by Feeney to develop vote-switchin software.
Curtis has passed a polygraph test. 

HERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE ELECTION 2004 SITE:
POLLING DATA, ANALYSIS, DISCUSSION
and...
THE EXCEL INTERACTIVE ELECTION MODEL
http://www.truthisall.net/
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:34 AM
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20. Election Defense Alliance (author of article) contact & membership Info


Note. I don't belong to EDA, I don't plan to join (that would ruin my opinion of their good judgement) nor do I do work for them in any capacity. I am simply happy that there in an organizaiton that is both pro clean and inclusive elections AND willing to cry foul and
point the finger at the "perp."


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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:08 PM
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3. Nation: 3 Races Still to Count…
This is crunch time. Will we give in or just let these “nail biters go to the Republican as they always do. Around the country candidates are smartening up and not giving in right away – thanks to the great work of Lehto, Friedman, etc. in exposing the problems of CA 50th – Busby-Bilbray.





Votes still being counted in close House races
CNN 11/18/06


POSTED: 5:25 a.m. EST, November 18, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/y3fns2

Still to be called are:

-- North Carolina, 8th District: Rep. Robin Hayes, a Republican, led Democrat Larry Kissell by 339 votes after results were certified by county election boards Friday night. Kissell asked for a recount, which officials said would begin next week and conclude by Wednesday.

-- Ohio, 2nd District: Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Republican who called decorated Vietnam veteran Rep. John Murtha a coward, was ahead of Democrat Victoria Wulsin by about 2,800 votes. Workers were to begin counting as many as 10,000 provisional and absentee ballots next week.

-- Ohio, 15th District: Rep. Deborah Pryce, a member of the House Republican leadership, leads Democrat Mary Jo Kilroy by 3,536 votes. Thousands of provisional ballots need to be recounted, but results won't be announced until November 27 because of a dispute over a new voter identification law.

In addition, runoffs will pick the officeholder in Louisiana, where Democratic Rep. William Jefferson, the subject of an FBI bribery investigation, will face fellow Democrat Karen Carter in a December 9 runoff; and in Texas, where GOP Rep. Henry Bonilla will face Democratic former Rep. Ciro Rodriguez in a yet-unscheduled runoff to happen no sooner than December 12.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:20 PM
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7. Whats going on with the Sarasota, Dist 13 race? you don't list it.
I thought they were to do a recount and audit. Does Florida SOS consider that its been completed?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:05 PM
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15. See Post #13:)...my suggested policy for evaluating the disiposition.
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 11:10 PM by autorank
Now do I consider that to be a reasonable proposal? I'd defer to the Florida people here. In general, it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that election officials are NOT the people to be doing recounts. There is inherent suspicion of their motives given the political nature of those positions. For example, in California, the recounts are based on precincts selected by election officials. Who anointed them experts at statistical sampling...or if they out source it, and they might, who would trust their selection?

Here is my suggestion (anyone on Capitol Hill, this one's for you):

The Democrats and activists in Florida should do their best to make sure that justice is done in the recount. If it's not, then the House needs to review the process to see if it was in fact a rigged game. If it is, and there is solid foundation for so judging, then the credentials of the (s)elected representative should be rejected by the House.

After all, we have clear law now that the Speaker of the House has final say on electoral contests for the House. Oh, there could be an election contest just like the Democrats could have had an electoral contest.

Why not let rationality and justice apply to this situation?

Precedent

Congressional Election Nullified – Nobody Noticed
Friday, 25 August 2006, 10:45 pm
Article: Michael Collins

Speaker of the House Nullified San Diego Congressional Race


By Michael Collins
“Scoop” Independent News
Washington, DC

It appears the US media overlooked one of the great political stories of the year. In what is becoming something of a pattern, here’s a brief chronology:

On June 6, 2006 Republican Brian Bilbray allegedly slightly outpolled Democrat Francine Busby in the special election for California’s 50th Congressional District, despite Busby’s lead in the polls going into the election. There were immediate cries of foul following the election due to major irregularities, including electronic voting machines sent out to the homes and cars of volunteers for up to 12 days prior to the election, and irregular election results like huge mega-precincts of absentee ballots where turnout was thousands of percent more than registered voters.

On June 13, 2006, Bilbray flew to Washington, DC and was sworn in as a member of the United States House of Representatives by House Speaker Dennis Hastert.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:09 PM
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4. VA: Whose Afraid of Virginia’s Voting Machines – Electronic Frontier Foundation
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:11 PM by autorank
I’ve been a long standing critic of the Virginia recount system – a system where the recount does NOT allow recounting. Jefferson weeps. Shame on them for this neologism representing a denial of democracy..


Who’s Afraid of Virginia’s Voting Machines?
By Matt Zimmerman, Electronic Frontier Foundation
11/19/06 Posted at VoteTrustUSA


http://tinyurl.com/y6zct6


This article was posted at Electronic Frontier Foundation's Deep Links Blog. It is reposted here with permission of the author.

Down over 7,000 votes to Democratic challenger Jim Webb, Virginia Senator George Allen conceded three days after the election. "It is with deep respect for the people of Virginia," Allen said, "that I do not wish to cause more rancor by protracted litigation which would in my judgment not alter the results."

Snip

The long history of problems with electronic voting systems should have given him at least slight pause, especially in light of last week's documented incidents of Hart Intercivic voting machines apparently truncating the names of several candidates on the summary page, including the name of his opponent, now-Senator-elect Jim Webb. Or reports from election day that ES&S iVotronic machines in Sarasota, Florida, recorded over 10,000 fewer votes for a Congressional race than for other high-profile races.

The majority of Virginia counties use touchscreen direct recording electronic (DRE) voting machines, and most of those counties use DREs that do not generate voter-verified paper ballots. Instead of creating anything truly useful for officials to recount, the machines simply reproduce data that is already in memory, in effect reprinting the results rather than recounting ballots in any meaningful sense. Mechanical problems or manipulation affecting the initial vote totals would most likely not be spotted by simply reprinting the same results.



A history of rebellion against tyranny to be handed this nonsense by our self-appointed leaders…


More troubling, Virginia’s recount statute nowhere explicitly gives candidates access to the only materials generated by DREs that could be relevant to determining whether votes were miscounted or manipulated: backup memories and audit logs. According to Virginia law, in order to “redetermine” DRE totals as part of a recount, “ecount officials shall open the envelopes with the printouts and read the results from the printouts. If the printout is not clear, or on the request of the court, the recount officials shall rerun the printout from the machine…” In other words, a recount of Virginia DRE vote totals would by default consist of recount officials looking at the same summary totals that were printed out earlier in the process or, if the printout was unclear or (at the discretion of the court), generating an identical summary printout.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:12 PM
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5. FL: “Is Florida Ready for Democracy” – David Dill of VerifiedVoting.org
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:34 PM by autorank
The question is rhetorical. Dill provides a great analysis in every way but two – he continues to think that touch screens can be fixed with Voter Verified Paper Ballots and he is “non partisan” and does not name the perps – THE REPUBLICANS. See my response on Huffington provided in full below this message.



Is Florida Ready for Democracy?
David Dill-VerifiedVoting.Org, Huffington Post, 11/19/2006



http://tinyurl.com/y5udqt

Florida needs to demonstrate that it is a functioning democracy by getting to the bottom of the problem in the District 13 Congressional Race in Sarasota County. Republican Vern Buchanan now leads Christine Jennings by only 369 votes. But voter complaints and anomalous statistics raise the question: did the voters decide this election, or did software or hardware errors tip the result in favor of a candidate who would otherwise have lost?

The numbers reported the day after the election showed a glaring problem: over 18,000 voters cast ballots, but (supposedly) did not vote in the Congressional race. Overall, that is a 14% undervote rate, which is implausibly high for this race (the undervote rate in the U.S. Senate race was a little over 1%).

According to Supervisor of Elections Kathy Dent and candidate Buchanan, the undervotes were protests by voters repelled by a negative campaign. This argument does not pass the straight face test. To believe it, one would have to accept that the only voters who were unhappy were those who voted on electronic machines in Sarasota County. In contrast, the undervote rate on Sarasota's paper absentee ballots was about 2.5%. The undervote was similarly low in neighboring counties.

From what we know now, the voters probably elected Jennings, but the voting machines elected Buchanan. Even with the lost votes, Jennings got the most votes in Sarasota County (neighboring counties preferred Buchanan, which is why he's ahead now). If the 18,382 lost votes are distributed in the same proportion betwee n the two candidates as the votes that were not lost, Jennings would win by about 600 votes.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:17 PM
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6. My Response: Two Critical Questions Posed to Election Integrity Activists
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:19 PM by autorank

Michael Collins response to David Dill post on Huffington Post


The “same old same old” – who is surprised here?




Can the United States consider itself a democracy as long as we persist with secret voting?

Can election fraud ever be seriously addressed as long as the criticism of it remains "non partisan?"



CAN WE CLAIM TO BE A DEMOCRACY?

Those are two critical questions. Right now we have a majority of votes taken and counted through computers. These devices are not transparent, operated by third parties who keep meaningful operational information private, and which produce no record of votes that can truly be tied to the intent of the voters. The paper trail solution is meaningless as long as there is a computerized version of the vote which can be manipulated...and any computer system can be manipulated.

Thus, we select leaders based on secret voting and those leaders would be hard pressed to prove that they were actually elected by a plurality or majority of voters.

The notion of democracy given this situation is ephemeral. The citizens are beginning to say "We do not consent."

WHEN WILL THE CRITICISM FOCUS ON THE PERPETRATORS?

This is an outstanding article in every way but one...it fails to name those who consistently benefit from election irregularities...the Republicans.

Historically, election fraud is a bipartisan crime. Recent history shows that the overwhelming beneficiaries of clear irregularities are Republican candidates.

Why not just say it? After all, is it so hard to believe that this party would not stoop to stealing elections when we see their advocacy of torture and lawless seizures, wars without justifications, and general disinformation and deception?

The foundations of democracy are shattered and the public is far ahead of both politicians and activists - they small a rat and want computerized voting tossed out. They also know who benefits.

We need more focused critiques like this but tied to the broader issue of democracy per se and who benefits from all these "errors."

Michael Collins

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:39 PM
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13. Florida's Audit Plan for Sarasota
From DUer eomer http://tinyurl.com/uk4c6

Audit Plan
Sarasota County Florida
November 13 - TBD, 2006


Note: This audit plan may change in response to the in-process audit findings.
Activities that require access to the deployed equipment will be performed upon completion of the recount process.

Opening meeting
Purpose and scope
Team introduction
Available resources
Audit transparency
Audit overview
Examination of the precinct count equipment
Examination of the central count equipment
Verification of the election management system (ES&S Unity Voting System) software
Examination of the Sarasota County’s elections security procedures and activities
Parallel tests (simulations of election day voting)
Closeout meeting

Precinct Count Examination
Obtain the following:
Precinct list
List of voting devices at each precinct
Equipment tracking logs for election media / equipment
Zero and results tapes for all the voting devices (original and recount)
Number of spoiled ballots that occurred at each precinct, if any
Number of provisional ballots issued at each precinct, if any
Examine precinct voter rolls
Manually count number of voter signatures
Examine precinct zero tapes
Verify counters are zero
Note the time/date stamp & signatures
Examine precinct results tapes
Verify the public count from the protective counts using the zero and results tapes
Note the time/date stamp & signatures on the results tape
Examine precinct results and precinct voting equipment
Select at least 45 DREs used during election day and obtain their ballot image reports
(This selection TBD based on precinct demographics and magnitude of 13th Congressional District undervote)
Manually count the number of votes for the 13th Congressional District race from the ballot image report
Determine the number of undervotes for this race
Compare the observed 13th Congressional District undervote total to the results tape
Manually count the number of votes for additional randomly selected contest/candidates
Manually count the number of ballots cast
Obtain the event logs for the selected DREs and manually count the number of ballots cast
Verify the ballot count from the event logs, the ballot images, and the results tapes match each other
Sum the total ballots cast from the results tapes for each precinct
Compare the precinct ballot totals with the totals from the precinct voter rolls
Compare the precinct ballot totals with the reported totals from the Election Reporting Manager (ERM)
Repeat the above activities for early voting except sample size to be at least 2 DREs
Examine the precinct voting equipment
Download the EEPROM .bin files from each of the selected DREs
Examine the EEPROM files for any evidence of disagreement between the redundant memory chips
Extract the firmware .bin file from one of the selected DREs
(*The following activities to be performed at Division of Elections in Tallahassee, FL)
*Obtain the firmware EEPROM .bin file from the Division of Elections’ 12” DRE
*Hash the .bin file segment that contains the firmware for both voting devices
*Compare the hash results to verify the installed firmware
Perform an independent source code review of the firmware
(The independent review will be performed by TBD)

Central Count Examination by precinct, if time permits
Manually count the number of acceptable absentee ballot signatures
Manually count the number of acceptable absentee ballots
Compare the signature count to the absentee ballot count
Manually count the votes for the 13th Congressional District from at least one precinct.

ES&S Unity Examination
Obtain a directory listing of the Unity server and workstations
Obtain a copy of the registry
Obtain a copy of the operating system logs and the Unity log files
Obtain screen shots of each Unity module’s settings
Examine the ERM precinct results reports and compare with the manual counts
Compare the precinct election day totals, provisional totals, and absentee totals
Perform a SHA-1 hash of the installed static files on the server and workstation
(*The following activities to be performed at DOE/Tallahassee)
*Compare the hash message with the hash message of the installed State certified software
*Examine the registries and system logs

Security Procedures and Work Instructions
Examine the security procedures
Examine the work instructions and relevant objective evidence (e.g., logs, inventory, seals, etc.)
Examine the conduct of elections report
Compare the conduct of elections with the documented procedures/work instructions
Examine the reported issues concerning the precinct devices
Examine the security camera video tapes and access logs

Perform the first of two parallel tests by performing the following:
(Note: This first parallel test will be performed as soon as possible. However, the actual DREs that were deployed on election day will not be available until after the recount process is complete. A second parallel test will be performed utilizing the DREs that were deployed on election day once these devices become available.)
Identify four DREs that were deployed on election day
(This selection TBD based on precinct demographics and magnitude of 13th Congressional District undervote)
Select four DREs that were not deployed on election day
Program PEBs and election media to reflect the election definition/parameters of the deployed DREs
Obtain the event log and ballot image report for each of the deployed DREs
Prepare the test scripts based on the ballot images
Prepare a time-line for casting ballots based on the event log for each deployed DRE
Obtain four video cameras / recorders
Organize four two-person teams with each team assigned to a DRE
(One person to enter votes and one person to verify vote selection and verify the review page)
Determine optimal setup of the video cameras / recorder for each DRE and team
(Video image should clearly display the entire touchscreen surface without obstruction during the voting process)
Clear the PEBs, election media, and DREs
Perform the following at the start of the designated test day:
Start video recording
Set the date to November 7, 2006
Set the DREs for election mode
Open the polls at the indicated time and obtain the zero tapes
Select candidates/positions per the test script
For the undervoted 13th Congressional District race perform the following:
Randomly select one or the other candidate or neither
Compare this selection with the review screen and document
Change the selection to match the test script
Examine the review screens to verify its contents match the script based on the ballot image
Cast ballot at the designated time
Document any discrepancy and/or deviation from the test script
Repeat for each ballot cast on election day
Close the polls at the indicated time and obtain the results tapes
Terminate video recording
Resolve discrepancies (if any)
Summarize finding(s) and observations

Perform the second parallel test once the deployed DREs become available by performing the following:
Select four DREs that were deployed on election day
(This selection TBD based on precinct demographics and magnitude of 13th Congressional District undervote)
Obtain the same PEBs and election media that were used with these DREs
Obtain the event log and ballot image report for each of the deployed DREs
Prepare the test scripts based on the ballot images
Prepare a time-line for casting ballots based on the event log for each DRE
Obtain four video cameras / recorders
Organize four two-person teams with each team assigned to a DRE
(One person to enter votes and one person to verify vote selection and verify the review page)
Determine optimal setup of the video cameras / recorder for each DRE and team
(Video image should clearly display the entire touchscreen surface without obstruction during the voting process)
Clear the PEBs, election media, and DREs
Perform the following at the start of the designated test day:
Start video recording
Set the date to November 7, 2006
Set the DREs for election mode
Open the polls at the indicated time and obtain the zero tapes
Select candidates/positions per the test script
For the undervoted 13th Congressional District race perform the following:
Randomly select one or the other candidate or neither
Compare this selection with the review screen and document
Change the selection to match the test script
Examine the review screens to verify its contents match the script based on the ballot image
Cast ballot at the designated time
Document any discrepancy and/or deviation from the test script
Repeat for each ballot cast on election day
Close the polls at the indicated time and obtain the results tapes
Terminate video recording
Resolve discrepancies (if any)
Summarize finding(s) and observations

Closeout Meeting

Issue the audit report

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/AuditPlan11-10.pdf
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:24 PM
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8. Nation: FBI Investigating Voter Intimidation, Dirty Tricks, etc.
it’s about time. They may stumble across a right wing inspired machine fixing scheme. If they did, what do you think that they would do?


Attn. FBI. Check this out. How far did
the plan get? Thank you

FBI probes dirty tricks claims amid voting
machine problems in U.S. election
The Associated Press 11/07/06


Deborah Hastings

Published: Tuesday, November 07, 2006

While new voting machines confounded some midterm election poll workers, reports of dirty tricks and voter intimidation surfaced across the United States on Tuesday, prompting federal investigations in at least two states.

In Virginia, election officials contacted the FBI over complaints of voter intimidation in the hard-fought race between Republican Senator. George Allen and Democrat Jim Webb. Jean Jensen, secretary of the Board of Elections, said her office received reports of phone calls apparently encouraging voters to stay home on Election Day. Other calls directed voters to the wrong polling place.

In Indiana, the FBI was investigating allegations that a Democratic volunteer at a Monroe County polling site was found with unprocessed absentee ballots.

Other states reported voter intimidation problems and dirty tricks.

In Arizona, three men, one of them armed, stopped Hispanic voters and questioned them outside a Tucson polling place, according to voting monitors for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, which photographed the incidents and reported them to the FBI.

In Maryland, sample ballots suggesting Republican Gov. Robert Ehrlich and Senate candidate Michael Steele were Democrats were handed out by people bused in from out of state. Democrats outnumber Republicans in Maryland by nearly 2-1.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:25 PM
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9. Nation: Reid to Focus on Election Fraud – Campaign Tricks, Robo Calls
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:25 PM by autorank
Well alsighty then. He uses the term “election fraud” which is a testimony to DU Elections folks. We pushed that term when alternatives were confusing people, like “vote fraud” (the Republican buzz word). It’s ELECTION FRAUD, plain and simple, that needs to be addressed. Give ‘em Hell Harry.


IT’S CALLED…



News on Democratic plan to prevent future election fraud!
Progressive U 11/17/06


Yes, yes, YES!

http://tinyurl.com/tgv5n

This is GREAT news!

Senator Reid and the Democrats are fighting election shinanigans that have been the the core of the Republican policies in the last few elections!


"The Senate Democratic leadership team plans a long, laborious slog for the Senate next year even as party leaders continue to formalize their legislative agenda for the 110th Congress — an agenda that already includes a couple of surprises.

"At a breakfast with reporters Tuesday, incoming Majority Leader Harry Reid warned that the “do-nothing” Congress, as his party has labeled recent Republican rule in the chamber, will soon be over....

"Principally, Reid said that would mean passing a bill to create criminal penalties for election fraud, including offenses such as voter misinformation campaigns carried out by robo-calls and misleading flyers.

"Noting that such tactics were used in both the Missouri and Maryland Senate races, Schumer said, “I think the person or people who authorized that should go to jail for 10 years.” Currently, civil fines usually are the most serious penalty assessed for such ploys. Schumer added that a separate unit should be created within the Justice Department to deal with cases of election fraud." (Roll Call)


Let's make sure they outlaw those e-voting machines too. And for a party that understood that the 04 election was stolen in the machines and suppression, and the 2002 midterms was stolen in the machines and suppression, and the 2000 elections were stolen in the machines and the suppression....I have only ONE question?

WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG?

And i have ONE huge thanks to give too...to RFK Jr. who made the mainstream media report on this and who has ongoing cases on this too.

Is it January yet? I can't wait to see all of this talk get put into action! my list of items that the Democratic Congress has said they will act on is getting longer... They'll certainly have their work cut out for them!

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:46 PM
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35. Wow! Reid's , a heavy-hitter, isn't he? Just about the closest you
could get to Eliot Ness.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:26 PM
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10. CO: Many Questions to be Answered on Election Day Meltdown
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:27 PM by autorank
This was a huge mess. The Denver folks decided on large voting centers. What do they think this is, Wal-Mart Nation? We need to let these elections officials know that elections are NOT for their convenience, they are for our convenience. Stop messing around!!!



Colorado election officials regret
their choice of consultants.


Colorado elections — Many problems, many solutions, no guaranteesBY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 11/19/06


http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20061119/NEWS/61119001

DENVER — The trick to fixing what went wrong in Colorado’s election is that there’s so much to fix.

The missteps might have looked the same from county to county — long lines at polling places, long delays in tallying votes. But exactly what broke and where the logjams developed varied widely on Nov. 7.

In Montrose, there was a shortage of experienced poll workers working with new voting machines. In Phillips County, the lone scanning machine for absentee ballots broke. In Douglas County, there weren’t enough voting machines.

And in Denver, trouble on two fronts: Software that was supposed to verify voter eligibility stalled, backing up lines at new voting centers, and misprinted absentee ballots forced officials to sort them by hand before they could be tallied. A scanner to count the votes broke down, delaying the final count for a week. Denver got so far behind, police officers were called in on a Saturday to sort ballots.

Investigative panels are being formed and elections officials are vowing to do better. But there are no guarantees that the gradual switch from paper ballots to sheets counted by computers and scanners is going to be foolproof. Ever.

“You can have the 100 percent best machine in the world, but because humans are operating it, things are going to get screwed up,” said University of Colorado political science professor Michael Kanner. “You make the system as good as possible, you account for the predominant errors that you expect to have happen and the rest, you go on faith.”
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:27 PM
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11. Mexico: Lopez Obrador Resistance to Tyranny

He said he’d do it and he is. Lopez Obrador is following through on the parallel government. Not too soon either! Mexico is about to split North-South. Oaxaca is just one of the southern states that simply can’t stand the central government. Fox - Calderon, frick - frack…it’s all tyranny. Watch the ‘teardown’ in the corporate media here and in Europe. They’ll clam Obrador is losing support etc. Mexico is one of the great fire sales for US and European concerns. They just go in and rip off whatever they want and the Fox-Calderon-etc. leaders just say, “Thank you, may I have another.” Enough. Support Obrador.



Ballot box stuffing in Mexico captured
by the newspaper, La Jornada

Lopez Obrador Ratified his Resistance
La Pensa 11/19/06


http://tinyurl.com/voqf8

Mexico, Nov 19 (Prensa Latina) Opposition leader Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, once more ratified his position of not giving up, and has more strength than ever to fight for Mexico justice, freedom and democracy.

During the national tour he is been, which will conclude on Monday with the symbolic assume of power as "legitimate President," Lopez Obrador assured the country will go on, however he emphasized the need of maintaining resistance movement he leads.

He released that for governing he will first create a solid organization all over the nation, for which he will take a member register, who will sing the compromise of going in favor people's defense and national patrimony.

When right wing opposites attempt violating citizen's rights or privatizing companies, we will call for mass demonstrations and we'll gather thousands, millions of people to prevent that from happening.

He reiterated that besides, he counts with a work team and a country transformation program, and he made clear he will not assume an individual presidency but collective one, where power will lie in organized people.

When expressing his political opposites might accuse him of committing mistakes, but never of being a traitor, he assured PAN and federal government made election fraud to him.

At last he invited all his supporters to attend to a "meeting as President," on Monday 20 evening in Plaza de la Constitucion.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:32 PM
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12.  London: Rally to Support Mexico Democracy Movement – Hands off Oaxacaa
Support for Obrador and Oaxaca democracy forces in Lodong emeres.




Demo outside Mexican embassy TOMORROW (Monday) and solidarity meeting

hands off oaxaca! | 19.11.2006 13:49 | Oaxaca Uprising | Indymedia | Repression | Zapatista | London | World
MEXICO EMERGENCY! HANDS OFF OAXACA! NO TO ELECTORAL FRAUD! URO MUST GO!


Picket the Mexican embassy (16 St George St W1, nearest tube: Oxford Circus) from 5pm to 6.30pm this Monday 20th November!

Then come to a public meeting from 7.30pm at the National Union of Journalists (308 Grays Inn Rd WC1, nearest tube: Kings Cross) with Jeremy Corbyn MP.

Since the end of October, tens of thousands of police and soldiers have invaded the southern city of Oaxaca to smash a social mobilisation that started five months before as a teachers' strike.

This violent repression against the peaceful population has claimed several lives, including indymedia reporter Brad Wills, but the people are fighting on with the demand that the corrupt local governor Ulises Ruiz Ortiz, known by his initials URO, must go.

The Zapatistas have called for a general strike on Monday 20 November, the anniversary of the Mexican revolution in 1910, in support of the Oaxacan social movement and, specifically, to demand that URO must go.

In a communique dated October 30th, spokesman subcomandante Marcos stated: "The central message that the Zapatistas send and will continue sending is that the people of Oaxaca are not alone: They are not alone!"



November 20th is also the date that cheated presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador (AMLO) is inaugurating his "parallel presidency."

AMLO lost the election in July by less than 1 per cent of the vote after numerous recorded irregularities, including ballot-stuffing and vote-dumping. Since then, he has mobilised millions of supporters, holding mass rallies and a national democratic convention.

Come to the picket to protest against repression and fraud, then take part in the meeting to help take the solidarity movement here forward. There have been proposals for more demonstrations and direct action, as well as the formation of a solidarity committee to help coordinate various groups and individuals active on this issue. Get involved!



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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:25 PM
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16. Please distribute this story- and how about if we send it to media too
Keith O. for example and Lou Dobbs and anyone else we can think of in MSM. We need to be relentless- all of us- in not letting this story die or letting the Dems become complacent about their win to pay attention election fraud. There's not much time before 2008 and much to get done.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 11:49 PM
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17. Great idea. Lets get it around.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:21 AM
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18. So for now, we need a 54% supermajority
to counteract the tilt in the playing field?

If we know what the challenge is, we can meet it, while changing it at the same time.


auto: :yourock:


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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:37 AM
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21. U2
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 12:38 AM by autorank
How do you like thqt variation on the Rove election night picture. It's a bit obvious but it
makes the point. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=459607&mesg_id=459614

I think that we need about a 70% anti * majority and then we need to turn that into and
anti any politician who refuses to recognize the obvious will of the people like - get the
Hell out of Iraq, fix the environment, let people out of prison-camp like facilities (e.g.,
Katrina refulgees in camps), no corruption, etc. That would be a nice change wouldn't it?

:hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:22 AM
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19. FL: Florida 13 th Congressional race Headed to Court
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 12:23 AM by autorank

BLOGGED BY Brad ON 11/19/2006 3:28PM
Lawsuits Coming in Sarasota's Disastrous 13th District U.S. House Race in Florida
Candidate, as well as Non-Partisan Groups Lining up for Legal Action, Demanding Investigation, Re-Vote, Accountability
Election Supervisor Kathy Dent — Directly Responsible for the Mess — Has Yet to Resign…



The BRAD BLOG has learned that several lawsuits are likely to be launched this week in Sarasota, Florida's election meltdown where some 18,000 votes failed to register on the county's paperless ES&S touch-screen voting systems on November 7th. Fewer than 400 votes currently divide candidates Vern Buchanan (R) and Christine Jennings (D) who are vying to fill disgraced former Sec. of State Katherine Harris' U.S. House seat in Florida's 13th congressional district.

A number of sources have confirmed to The BRAD BLOG that Jenning's legal team — who previously filed court papers to impound voting machines and data for a possible investigation — are preparing to file legal action to challenge the legitimacy of the race, perhaps as soon as this week.

As well, non-partisan legal election watchdog VoterAction.org has announced they will be filing suit this week along with People for the American Way Foundation, the ACLU of Florida, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and Common Cause. Velvet Revolution.us (of which The BRAD BLOG is a co-founder) is also joining in support of the action. A plea to citizens by Voter Action, seeking help in funding the lawsuit, follows in full at the end of this article.

This graf, from Voter Action's announcement, is of particular note in light of our own previous call for the resignation of Sarasota's atrocious Supervisor of Elections, Kathy Dent — the person responsible, perhaps more than any other, for leading her constituents into this otherwise avoidable debacle :

More at The BradBlog
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:41 AM
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22. A big K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 04:40 AM
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25. Well thank you very much!!!
Great kitties;)
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:20 AM
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26. I always give ur threads
a kick autorank, they are very important!!! :kick:

the kitties say, "thank you"
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:00 AM
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23. hope the R&R has nothing to do with todays monstrosity ;)
football should be played at 8pm so it doesnt suck the life out of my whole day.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:50 AM
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24. No, I'm used to it.
It's a good lesson humility...we're playing for "draft pick."

We're hitting bottom, realizing we're powerless over defenses and accepting
the fact that our team has become unmanageable;)

It has to get better, right, doesn't it :shrug:
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 04:27 PM
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52. It has to get better, right, doesn't it :shrug:
mantra of the years!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:11 AM
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28. Delete. nevermind!
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 08:19 AM by elehhhhna
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:16 AM
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29. self-delete now that there's another thread! n/t
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 08:17 AM by OnTheOtherHand
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:07 AM
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30. maybe there's a totally innocent explanation...
half of the people exit polled lie half of the time. who, after all, would willingly admit to voting to stay the course? were i a gop voter, damned if i'd confess my sins to some exit poller.

recommended, btw. thanx for such admirable work.

mvs
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:23 PM
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39. You can fool some of the people most of the time, and all of the people
some of the time, but damned if you'd want to admit you voted for *...which, of course, may indicate oversampling was rampant. Its kind of like 2004...hard to find people admitting to endorsing the boy king.

Thanks for the kind words and great holidays.

Question: Which play by Shakespeare (or another) are we seeing acted out with Poppy and W? It has to
be dead on to something buy you now about those memory cells;)
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:53 PM
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45. shakespeare?
Shrub doesn't merit comparison to anything with even a modicum of greatness. Let's see, in 9th grade I played the villain in "Curse You, Jack Dalton". A juvenile farce would just about fit the bill, except it's an insult to bad juvenile writers. OK, so, I know! When I was a small kidlet we used an escusado, an outdoor privy. The Montgomery Ward catalog vied with Sears Roebuck as the escusado papier du jour. So, you want a literary rendition of the past six sick years? Tear a page out of the Sears, as Wards' had the better paper. But then, the comparison's an insult to something so useful.

Hmm, I'm sure there's something. Borat? A damn fool making damned fools out of anyone who comes into his presence, close, close. Damn, I am getting too damned old. Come, let us see which of our daughters loves us the most...

mvs
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:32 AM
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31. Thanx! You consistently bring facts to the most impt Questions....
... it comes down to an examination of the process.

WE cannot be satisfied with the outcome of the process when the process is profoundly compromised.

I wonder how many people would be willing to "move on" if the election results had been razor thin in favor of all Republicans?

Even so, we need to reach for the higher goal of a legitimate process AND a verifiable accurate outcome.... otherwise the entire election fiasco is merely a mask on a manipulated system being fought over by interests groups.

Now that DEMs are in the majority, the time to plumb the depths of this disaster has come, or the window of opportunity will pass and those who would perpetuate the current broken election process will regain the opportunity to squelch investigation for another 12 years.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:27 PM
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40. Thanks Blackhadjack!!!
There is clearly a confidence gap with the people growing weary of these "glitches" from computers which in every other application do what they're programmed to do. Ever hear of a Diebold ATM needing to be calibrated or having a glitch. It happens but there's no database on huge numbers of errors.

The best argument I've heard, and that the "powers that be" need to hear is, "Prove to us that you were elected, then you're legitimate." Since the winners are in charge of the election system, they need to show us that it was fair and square, beyond any doubt. If they don't we're all in trouble.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:50 PM
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32. K&R
:wtf: indeed.

What I love about this year, though, is it didn't take months of second guessing to figure it out.

If we know what the situation is, we can handle it.

:yourock: and I sent your link to election nerds and activists all over CA.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:49 PM
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33. God this is disturbing
Thank you auto, TIA, LandShark, but this is tough news on a Monday morning.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:30 PM
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41. The good news is that NOW we know and push back.
I think things would have been much worse had there not been a highly vocal islands of awareness like
we have here at DU and you find elsewhere on the net, e.g., Ars Technica.

One outcome of this election for sure is net neutrality. They're not about to take the internet and price it out of easy and open use. Sweet!

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:43 PM
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34. What's the odd 3,000,000 votes to "level the playing field", post facto, Auto?
Kind of making it a bit more bipartisan...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 04:36 PM
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36. kick
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:34 PM
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42. Sardonic and salient...
Sort of like how they handle things at the track - we'll just add a little weight to this pony to even things up. Unfortunately with suspected election fraud, it is one sided. Those handling the handicap do so in secret and don't let the rest of us know their little adjustment. That's OK, we're vigilant and not going anywhere. The invalid argument that it was all OK because the Demo rats won has gone no where. You don't see Lou Dobbs ranting and saying, "Oh I was duped!" He knows the score. So does Jonathan Simon, who is the researcher who got the original unanticipated National Exit Polls from CNN in 2004. Quite an irony that he got the unpublished version of the 2006 NEPs.

The best to you and yours!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:03 PM
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37. Thanks. That is a great report and website!
Have a great vacation.

You've earned it and then some. :hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:35 PM
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43. Didn't I ask you not to publish that picture of me;)
Cool web site. I'll have some fish stories when I get back.

:hi:
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:08 PM
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38. K&R Hand Counted Paper Ballots NOW!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:36 PM
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44. I like a person with a consistent message! Cheers to you!!! n/t
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:25 PM
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46. how about a message
and a K&R from a consistent friend?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:38 PM
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49. That's the kind of message I like!!!
Now, "Meet my little friend"


Happy Thanks Giving and thanks for you!!!
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:35 PM
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47. Thanks Autorank. It's all about the message; Impressions, Impressions, Impressions and a whole lot
of "real" work from good people like you, Landshark, TIA and so many more. I do my aggravatingly damndest to never give up demanding Hand Counted Paper Ballots NOW!

Please enjoy your R&R and keep up the great work!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:11 PM
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48. Two weeks!
:)

:kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:43 PM
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50. Time to...
..change the chip;), revise the programs, meet with "management" and straighten them out;)

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:45 PM
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51. Go for it! I'm going to burn a turkey for my family and
teach my puppy to walk on the LEFT side and renew my passport.

Be well, my friend.
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