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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 08:41 AM
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Election Reform, Fraud, & News 24/12/06 - "Buchanan Not Seated" She Said!
Election Reform, Fraud, & News 24/12/06:
"Not Seated," she said!


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& THREE CHEERS FOR NANCY PELOSI


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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 08:54 AM
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1. Nat: AP: New House Speaker May not Seat FL-13 "Winner"
New House speaker may not seat certified winner in disputed race
Associated Press
Bradenton Herald
December 23, 2006
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/breaking_news/16307513.htm

SARASOTA, Fla. - Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering not sitting the certified Republican winner of a contested congressional election when Congress reconvenes next month, her spokesman said.

Drew Hammill, a spokesman for Pelosi, said the congresswoman has not yet decided what to do about the contested District 13 race where Republican Vern Buchanan was certified the winner by the state by a margin of 369 votes over Democrat Christine Jennings.

"The bottom line here is that nothing's off the table," Hammill said.

The House is currently investigating, and Jennings has pressed on with a lawsuit against the manufacturer of the touch-screen voting machines that she insists malfunctioned during the election.

...
Buchanan, who has repeatedly called on Jennings to concede, will be in Washington next month.

"Historical precedent is that when there's a contested race the certified winner be seated," said Buchanan spokeswoman Sally Tibbetts. "Therefore, we fully expect Vern Buchanan to be seated on Jan. 4."

But Pelosi's spokesman said calls for seating the certified victor represent a Republican interpretation, not an ironclad rule.

In 1984, for example, a Democrat-controlled House refused to seat Indiana Republican Richard McIntyre, the certified winner by 418 votes after a state-ordered recount.
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/breaking_news/16307513.htm
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:30 AM
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5. FL: Orlando Sentinel Editorial: Drop Touch-Screens
Drop touch-screens
Our position: It's time to pull the plug on the failed experiment of electronic voting.


Editorial
Orlando Sentinel
December 24, 2006
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-ed24106dec24,0,2570714.story?coll=orl-opinion-headlines

Nothing is more sacred or vital to the survival of democracy than the ability to cast a vote with the confidence that vote will be counted accurately.

And yet the very foundation of this principle was shaken by the fiasco in Sarasota County on Nov. 7, when ATM-styled touch-screen machines showed more than 18,000 voters made no choice in one of the most hotly contested congressional races in the country. After a ridiculous "recount" in name only, the official returns show that Republican Vern Buchanan defeated Democrat Christine Jennings in District 13 by 369 votes out of 238,249 counted.

But that result isn't worth the paper the electronic ballots were not printed on. Without a paper trail to independently validate the electronic vote, the mandatory recount amounted to hitting the rewind button and replaying the machines' sad song.

Ms. Jennings is suing to challenge the election. Congress should do more than pay close attention to the case; it ought to mount its own investigation. The most fair resolution may well be holding a new election.

...

Let's remember that the hard-fought right to vote isn't worth much without the confidence the votes will count.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-ed24106dec24,0,2570714.story?coll=orl-opinion-headlines
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 01:26 PM
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19. The thought of not seating another questionable "winner" is a win
for democracy! Keep fighting, Christine! and please Support Jennings in the fight Ms. Pelosi!

Thanks for the scoop, freedomfries! :hi: K&R!
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:00 AM
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2. FL: Pelosi Not Ruling Out Win by Democrat in Disputed Race
Pelosi is not ruling out a win by Democrat in disputed race

Paul Quinlan
Gainesville Sun, FL
December 23, 2006

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/LOCAL/612230334/-1/news


Despite warnings that it could turn the new Congress into a partisan battleground, incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi refuses to rule out the possibility that Democrat Christine Jennings could be seated to represent the 13th District when the 110th Congress convenes in 12 days.

Republicans and even some Democrats said they expect the seat to go to Republican Vern Buchanan, the certified winner by 369 votes.

But Pelosi, who will head a 31-seat Democrat majority in the House, has refused to shut the door on Jennings, until audits, lawsuits and a House investigation are completed.

"The bottom line here is that nothing's off the table," said Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill.
...
This week, the contested election entered the political realm when Jennings took her challenge to Congress, filing a contest with the House Administration Committee seeking an investigation and, possibly, a new election.

Such challenges can take months or longer to resolve.

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/LOCAL/612230334/-1/news
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:09 AM
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3. FL: The "Certified Winner" May Not Be Seated
The certified winner may not be seated
The U.S. House of Representatives is investigating the outcome of the race in Florida's 13th district.


Associated Press
The Miami Herald
December 24, 2006
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16308951.htm

SARASOTA - (AP) -- Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering not sitting the certified Republican winner of a contested congressional election when Congress reconvenes next month, her spokesman said.

Drew Hammill, a spokesman for Pelosi, said the congresswoman has not yet decided what to do about the contested District 13 race where Republican Vern Buchanan was certified the winner by the state by a margin of 369 votes over Democrat Christine Jennings.

''The bottom line here is that nothing's off the table,'' Hammill said.
...
Buchanan, who has repeatedly called on Jennings to concede, will be in Washington next month.

''Historical precedent is that when there's a contested race the certified winner be seated,'' said Buchanan spokeswoman Sally Tibbetts. ``Therefore, we fully expect Vern Buchanan to be seated on Jan. 4.''
:shrug:
But Pelosi's spokesman said calls for seating the certified victor represent a Republican interpretation, not an ironclad rule.

In 1984, for example, a Democrat-controlled House refused to seat Indiana Republican Richard McIntyre, the certified winner by 418 votes after a state-ordered recount.

''At most, should be seated provisionally,'' said U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Weston, who is one of Jennings' closest allies. ''In my mind, I can't really justify leaving the constituents of the 13th District without representation'' during the review.
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http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16308951.htm
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:19 AM
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4. FL: Lawsuit Filed in Machine Code Issue
Filings Made in Machine Code Issue

Lloyd Dunkelberger
Herald Tribune, Saratosa
December 24, 2006
http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/NEWS/612230643

TALLAHASSEE -- Lawyers filed dueling arguments Friday in the lawsuit contesting the outcome of the Congressional District 13 race in Sarasota County, with the key question being whether a political challenger will be able to review sensitive computer codes used to operate electronic voting machines.

Democrat Christine Jennings is asking a Leon County circuit judge to overturn the election where Republican Vern Buchanan has been declared the winner by a 369-vote margin. Circuit Judge William Gary is expected to issue a ruling as early as next week on whether Jennings will be able to review the machine codes -- under a cloak of confidentiality -- to determine if she can prove that the Sarasota touch-screen machines malfunctioned and denied her votes.

In their final filings on the computer code issue, lawyers for Jennings and Election Systems & Software Inc. summarized the arguments raised this week in a two-day hearing before Gary.

ES&S lawyers repeated their assertion that the company's iVotronic voting machines "performed as they were designed and accurately recorded the votes." They cited the two post-election tests of voting machines by the state Division of Elections in Sarasota that showed the system was "100 percent accurate."

The ES&S lawyers pointed to testimony by Dartmouth College political scientist Michael Herron, who argued that a faulty ballot design -- which placed the two-candidate congressional race on the same screen as the multiple-candidate governor's race -- may have confused some voters leading to more than 18,000 of them failing to record a vote in the congressional contest.

"The only logical explanation as to why there were undervotes in the District 13 race is that no votes were cast which could be counted," the ES&S brief said.
...

In their brief, Jennings' lawyers said their academic experts -- which includes a political scientist from MIT and a computer scientist from Rice University -- made a compelling case that something went wrong in the machines leading to the unusually large undervote.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/NEWS/612230643
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:38 AM
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6. FL: Legislature to Revisit Problems with Voting
Legislature to revisit problems with voting

David Royse, AP
Herald Tribune, Saratosa
December 23, 2006
http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/NEWS/612230341

TALLAHASSEE -- When Florida's infamous punch-card ballots went the way of Al Gore's presidential hopes, many thought the state's voting problems had, too. But six years later, policy makers are learning the system still isn't perfect and more changes may be needed.

Confidence is now being shaken in the touch-screen voting machines that some counties chose to replace paper ballots. The issue is likely to come up when the Legislature convenes in March for its regular session.

Legislative leaders haven't committed to any particular fixes, and proposed legislation is only now starting to be filed -- none yet includes any major election overhauls. Some election requirements aren't in the law, but left to the individual counties, where 66 of 67 elections supervisors are chosen by voters.

The disputed congressional election in Sarasota County was the latest to raise suspicions for some voters that the electronic machines may have problems recording the right vote. For many, the problem isn't so much whether the devices work, but how difficult it is to know if they do or not since they don't have a paper trail.

"If this issue is not dealt with expediently, we will be faced with another possible blemish on Florida's already jaded voting history with the 2008 presidential election on the horizon," said Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida.

Sarasota County voters have already given up on touch- screens. They voted last month to switch to machines that use paper ballots, coincidentally in the same election that caused the latest questions.
...
"More than half of our residents vote on a system where we can't verify it," U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler said during a recent meeting with Gov.-elect Charlie Crist. "Hopefully we will have federal legislation, but I think it will always be better and wiser if Florida took care of its own problems."

While the issue wasn't a major one during last month's governor's race, Crist has said it now appears "incredibly important," and he isn't opposed to some kind of paper trail. He agreed to try to do something to deal with the perception that some machines may not count all the votes.


http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/NEWS/612230341
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:43 AM
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7. VT: Salmon is Winner of Recount
Salmon is winner of recount

Ross Sneyd, AP
Bennington Banner, VT
December 24, 2006
http://www.benningtonbanner.com/headlines/ci_4895115

MONTPELIER — Democrat Thomas M. Salmon was declared the winner of the recount in the state auditor's race Thursday by Washington Superior Court Judge Mary Miles Teachout, overturning what had appeared to be incumbent Auditor Randy Brock's re-election.
Teachout declared Salmon the victor by 102 votes after reviewing the results of a hand recount of the ballots by county clerks. She also added a few votes to each candidate's vote totals after reviewing "questionable" ballots in which voters' intents were not immediately clear.

"It's a great honor. I'm humbled," Salmon immediately after the judge ruled.

The secretary of state's office certified Brock the winner by 137 votes a week after the election after tallying each town clerk's votes. Salmon asked for a recount and it turned out that some of his votes had been mistakenly attributed to Liberty Union candidate Jerry Levy on the first count.

http://www.benningtonbanner.com/headlines/ci_4895115

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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:51 AM
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8. IL: Democrat Presses for Recount Data
Democrat presses for recount data
Vosicky threatens appeal to his defeat


John Biemer
Chicago Tribune
December 22, 2006
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/west/chi-0612220240dec22,1,2632784.story?coll=chi-newslocalwest-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

A week after a partial recount in the election to succeed state Rep. Lee Daniels in northeastern DuPage County confirmed Republican Dennis Reboletti's lead, Democrat Joe Vosicky is pressing on with efforts to probe Reboletti's narrow margin of victory.

Reboletti bested Vosicky by 299 votes out of 26,712 cast in the Nov. 7 election for the open 46th District seat, according to results certified by the Illinois State Board of Elections. The recount Vosicky requested of one-quarter of the district's precincts took two days last week. The DuPage County Election Commission charged Vosicky about $2,000 to cover legal fees and staff time.
Although the recount did not change the race's outcome, Vosicky attorney Richard Means said there are still unanswered questions. He said he has asked for information from the commission, but it is "stone-walling" attempts to get further information, so he is threatening to appeal to the state House of Representatives to settle the matter.

"As far as we are concerned, we are not done with the rediscovery recount until they give us the opportunity to inspect and copy all of the election materials and data that we asked for when we began the discovery recount," Means said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/west/chi-0612220240dec22,1,2632784.story?coll=chi-newslocalwest-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:56 AM
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9. PA: 28 Votes Give Democrats Control Of Pa. House
28 Votes Give Democrats Control Of Pa. House

CBS3.com, Philadelphia
December 21, 2006
http://cbs3.com/topstories/local_story_355134706.html

(AP) WEST CHESTER, Pa. A Republican candidate conceded the final disputed seat in the state House of Representatives on Thursday, giving Democrats a one-vote margin going into the coming session.

Six weeks of legal wrangling and ballot review concluded with a hand recount in a Chester County race that gave Democrat Barbara McIlvaine Smith a 28-vote win.

Democrats now have a 102-101 edge after 12 years in the minority.
http://cbs3.com/topstories/local_story_355134706.html
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:01 AM
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10. TN: Suspicions Aroused by Voting Machine Problems
Suspicions Aroused by Voting Machine Problems

Bill Toland
Knoxville News Sensinel, TN
December 23, 2006
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/article/0,1406,KNS_350_5231946,00.html

It was her first time using a new touch-screen voting machine, but, even so, Carlana Rhoten is positive she voted for Democrat Bob Casey on Nov. 7 for the U.S. Senate seat in Pennsylvania. That's why it was so surprising - no, infuriating - that the voting machine told her she'd voted for his Republican opponent incumbent Sen. Rick Santorum.
For those who chose not to participate in this most recent episode of America's great democratic experiment, here's how it worked: The ES&S iVotronic machine pages through the ballot, asking voters to push the area on the screen corresponding to the candidate of their choice. Once the voter has completed the ballot, the machine offers a summary page, which reviews the selections, asking for confirmation. If all looks right, the user hits the blinking "vote" button.

But the review page told Rhoten, 63, that she had voted for the senator, she said.

"There's no way I would accidentally touch the screen for Santorum," said Rhoten, who has been a registered Democrat for 25 years. She summoned a poll worker, who suggested Rhoten delete her votes and start over. The second time, she said, the machine recorded her vote correctly.

Rhoten's experience is one shared by untold numbers of voters across the country. The phenomenon is called vote-flipping, or vote-hopping. You think you've voted for one candidate, but the machine swears you've voted for another. And as electronic voting machines become more common because of the Help America Vote Act, reports of vote-flipping have begun to accumulate.


http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/article/0,1406,KNS_350_5231946,00.html
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:09 AM
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11. MA: Recount decided by a vote
Recount decided by a vote

Jason Graziadei
The Inquirer and Mirror, Nantucket, MA
December 24, 2006
http://www.ack.net/Recount122106.html

One of the closest political races in Nantucket history got even tighter Saturday after a hand recount confirmed Town Clerk Catherine Flanagan Stover’s election to the Board of Selectmen - this time by just one vote.

Nearly 100 counters, observers, election officials and curious citizens gathered at the Nantucket High School cafeteria Saturday to complete the recount requested by runner-up Patty Roggeveen. As is typical of election recounts – at least on Nantucket – the numbers changed, but the results did not.

Both of the front-runners increased their vote totals, but Flanagan Stover finished with 805 votes to Roggeveen’s 804, ending the disputed election nearly a month after it was held on Nov. 21.

Flanagan Stover, who had already been sworn in as a selectman, will now complete the interim term on the board that was created by Michael Glowacki’s resignation in August due to health concerns. Although Roggeveen could appeal for judicial review of seven blank write-in ballots that were challenged during the recount, she said she will not take the matter to Superior Court and will instead run again in April 2007, when there will be two seats up for election on the board.

With the recount behind her, Flanagan Stover said she was looking forward to the remaining four months of her term, and also indicated she will run for reelection, setting the stage for a rematch with Roggeveen in April 2007. The seat currently held by Doug Bennett is also up for election.
http://www.ack.net/Recount122106.html

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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:13 AM
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12. AL: D-SoS Worley Signs Off on Recounts
Worley signs off on recounts, quizzed by Riley adviser

Jamie Kizzire
Montgomery Advertiser
December 24, 2006
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/NEWS02/612230371/1009


Secretary of State Nancy Worley signed off on three ballot recounts from the Nov. 7 election, but not without an aide to the governor questioning the outgoing secretary's handling of election matters in a heated debate in front of reporters Friday.

Worley and the other members of a canvassing committee signed the re count results that did not see any outcomes change. However, Ken Wallis, the governor's le gal advis er, and a member of the committee, quizzed Worley about why she has kept the governor from issuing a proclamation containing the results for the election.

Worely, a Democrat, must verify the Republican governor's signature on the document. She said she was concerned about some differences in vote totals on the proclamation, although they did not affect the outcome of any race.

"Mr. Wallis, since you wish to make that point to the press, you sent down a proclamation to me with numbers that were corrected that had never been sent to me," Worley said.

"The interesting thing, though, Ms. Worley, is that your duty on that proclamation is not to decide whether the governor is correct or incorrect," Wallis replied.

Wallis said Gov. Bob Riley is required to issue the proclamation in a "timely fashion" although there is not a specific deadline.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/NEWS02/612230371/1009
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:19 AM
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13. OpEdNews: The Article V 100: An Untitled Documentary
The Article V 100: An Untitled Documentary

John De Herrera
OpEdNews.com
December 23, 2006

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_john_de__061223_the_article_v_100_3a_a.htm

Some weeks back I left work early to hear Scott Ritter at a book-signing. Remember Scott Ritter? Remember that night at Cal-Tech in Pasadena? The eve of war? Everyone was incredulous, the Bush Administration was going to invade Iraq while the previous months the world watched inspectors on the ground, and Richard Perle and the Neocons scared everyone into the idea that we better take care of business or wake up to a mushroom cloud.
I remember it was packed that night, they put speakers outside the auditorium and hundreds of us stood and sat around the quad and listened to Scott tell us there were no WMDs in Iraq. Now he's got another book out about Iran. Besides wanting to hear what he was going to say about the new book, I had a question for him.
Scott Ritter is one of those people you're happy to be around. A gentle giant who is intelligent, has a sense of humor, and actually some artistic talent too. A tradition at the that little bookstore there on the coast in California is to have the author sign an album and draw a picture of themselves next to their comments. He drew a decent picture of himself.
I had seen him on C-SPAN in his staged appearance with Seymor Hersh before the New York Society for Ethics. What struck me peculiar was a moment in the broadcast where Ritter was responding to Hersh, and he was impassioned, and he said what the U.S. ought to be doing is talking with the Ayatollah and the main council of clerics. That Ahmadinejad was somehow getting a bunch of media coverage and making the situation a mess. Ritter said we ought to be dealing with the Iranians who actually have a say in the matter, and that in fact those folks had already attempted to establish diplomatic ties with the Bush Administration but had been rebuffed.
What happened at that moment in the interview was interesting. It was how Hersh told Scott to back up in that "wait-a-minute buddy" kind of way saying that Ahmadinejad was dangerous. Hersh, in what was an admonishment, told Ritter that we must pay attention to what Ahmadinejad says because much of the Arab world was behind him.
By the time I got down to the book signing I was wondering what Scott's opinion about the electoral system was, and what he thought about reports of e-voting and the danger of it. He may be an expert on matters concerning fissile nuclear materials, but he's also an American so I wanted to hear what he thought. And being a former Marine, someone who has taken an oath, he understands well the concept of protecting the country from enemies foreign or domestic. Which is what e-voting and the issue of source code is, it is a crucible as to whether or not this generation of Americans is going to lose the vote to special interests forevermore. There is a very simple solution to the political catastrophe caused when the country was flooded with $3.8 billion worth of corporate voting machines: the 28th Amendment. The work of securing the vote in the age of e-voting requires the political weight of an amendment to the Constitution. No amount of legislation coming out of a corrupted institution is going to create the effects required. Representative Rush Holt and Senator Brack Obama are currently set to intorduce legislation in the next Congress which will "stay the course" and waste millions on the system HAVA brought about. For things as they are now, nothing short of a constitutional amendment is going to secure the vote.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_john_de__061223_the_article_v_100_3a_a.htm
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:25 AM
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14. BradBlog: VIDEO - Christine Jennings Discusses FL-13th With Kitty Pilgrim
VIDEO - Christine Jennings Discusses FL-13th With Kitty Pilgrim

Alan Breslauer, Guest Blogger
Bradblog.com
December23,2006
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3938

Christine Jennings and her lawyer, Kendall Coffey, appeared Wednesday on Lou Dobbs Tonight with guest host Kitty Pilgrim to discuss the latest news concerning Florida's 13th Congressional District. As BRAD BLOG has reported often (most recently here, here and here), Vern Buchanan was declared the winner in Florida's 13th after the disappearance of 18,000 votes left the Republican with a paltry 369 vote lead over his opponent Jennings. Subsequently, a handful of experts including one provided by e-voting manufacturer ES&S, concluded that the inclusion of the missing votes would have propelled Jennings to an easy victory based on an analysis of the Sarasota votes which did not spontaneously combust.

Unfortunately, the will of the people is a foreign concept among those controlling the Florida election apparatus which declared Buchanan the winner after recounting nothing a couple of times. With no paper trail (much less a paper BALLOT, and there is a big difference!), a "recount" merely refers to state election staffers testing whether a few selected machines are working properly and is entirely unrelated to the vote count. By certifying Buchanan the winner, the state forced Jennings to seek relief in the Florida courts.

This did not sit well with Sean Hannity who, with Buchanan on as a guest a few weeks ago, found the entire affair "unbelievable" and further evidence that Democrats are sore losers. Juxtaposing the Hannity clip as well as Tom Feeney's reaction to the election controversy, recounted by Brad here, to Jennings appearance on CNN (clip above right), makes for quite an interesting experiment. While hardly evidence that could be used in a court of law like the damning statistical evidence, the contrast is, nevertheless, telling.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3938
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:35 AM
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15. TruthIsAll 12/22/06:How Kerry Lost 7 million votes: 2.6 Uncounted; 4.4 Switched
How Kerry lost 7 million votes: 2.6 uncounted; 4.4 switched

TruthIsAll
ProgressiveIndependent.com
December 22, 2006
http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=120&topic_id=3411

A Comprehensive 2004 Election Analysis

This analysis determines the effect of uncounted and switched votes on the 2004 popular and electoral vote. It also provides a comprehensive sensitivity analysis to view the effect on the popular vote of incremental changes in the National Exit Poll (NEP) demographic weights and vote shares.
The basis for the analysis is the NEP "How Voted in 2000"
demographic. The Final NEP forced all demographic weightings and vote
shares to match the recorded vote count. This required using impossible weightings in the "How Voted in 2000" demographic. In this study, the weights were adjusted to feasible values. Using realistic plausible weightings and the 12:22am Exit Poll vote shares, Kerry won the election by 52.6-46.4%, a 7.7 million vote margin. The true vote share was then appliedto determine the level of switched votes required to match the recorded result.

The source data for the study includes the following:
1) 2000 total national vote
2) 2004 total state vote
3) 2004 National Exit Poll (12:22am and 2pm Final)
4) Census 2004 vote estimate
5) 2000 annual mortality rate

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=120&topic_id=3411




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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:43 AM
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16. Best Holiday Wishes To All!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 01:09 PM
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18. The same to you, ff! And thanks for the ERD!
:hug:

Today's line-up really shows us what a mess electronic voting is.

Even if it's chaos by design, it's good to see so many challenging the whole mishigas.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-25-06 12:21 PM
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21. Thank you for an excellent thread!
Peace to you & yours.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 12:08 PM
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17. Thanks so much, freedomfries!
:hi:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 03:24 PM
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20. That lady has ovaries! n/t
n/t
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