Doctor_J
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:21 PM
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Brad(blog) Friedman on Malloy - the fix is in, there is nothing to be done |
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You can go to bradblog.com and see the expanded version. He just said that there is not a shadow of a doubt that the opti-scan and other paperless systems are a joke, the elections can be and are rigged. Malloy asked him, "What can we do about it?", and Brad replied, "Not much"
When are we going to storm the streets?
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:32 PM
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some time, some place, will crank it up. I don't think it will be mine...but you never know. I don't even want to speculate on how that will turn out.
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:35 PM
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2. the sad part is realizing that Dems are involved as well as Repugs |
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:51 PM
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4. And all my conclusions.. |
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end in the same place..and yet still...I get sucked in to the fantasy again. It's just like the lottery...maybe this time.
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:54 PM
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5. Yes - what you said n/t |
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:39 PM
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3. considering the response here on du about NH democracy is dead... |
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as long as their candidate wins people dont care about transparent verifiable elections.
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K Gardner
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:54 PM
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6. If 2000 and 2004 are any indication... never?? |
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:55 PM
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they've been using optiscan machines for tabulation for decades now, without any problems.
Sour grapes, plain and simple.
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:01 PM
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11. You really need to educate yourself before talking out of your ass |
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The optiscan machines were how bush stole Florida in 2004. Every optiscan county showed a marked departure from the exit polls, all in Bush's favor. Non-optiscan counties were right on the money.
They are actually easier to hack than the DREs since you only have to get at one tabulator per precinct. I believe they can all be accessed via WiFi.
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Thu Jan-10-08 09:17 AM
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23. The beauty of talking out of one's ass is the freedom from knowledge. |
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So your request is not possible.
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:22 PM
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12. i guess you weren't paying attention to Florida in 2002 and 2004..when they told the nation it was |
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the dixiecrats that threw fla to bush..it wasn't the dixiecrats..it was the optiscan machines ..they were all in the north!!
wake up!
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Thu Jan-10-08 09:23 AM
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24. Sour grapes? Do you think more people in FL voted for Bush than Gore in 2000? |
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My candidate finished 3rd in NH. No amount of recounting would have changed that. Why do you against democracy?
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:56 PM
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8. What about the exit polls? |
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:29 PM
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15. Nope.. everybody's numbers were right except for Clintons. |
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:56 PM
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9. I would think a recount should be done |
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considering the closeness.
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Doctor_J
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Thu Jan-10-08 09:05 AM
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22. Apparently there is nothing to recount |
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The optiscan votes are "final"
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:59 PM
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10. But...but... my candidate WON!! |
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:41 PM
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18. its all bullshit..total bullshit! i am so sick and damn tired about this bullshit... |
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how many times is this going to happen before Americans take a stand??????
oh yeah ..the media didn't tell them about it..
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:26 PM
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13. "When are we going to storm the streets?" |
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I've done grassroots politics in the streets and people are ready...except that they are too busy or too paranoid about what might happen to them.
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:27 PM
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14. RIP American democracy |
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So it falls apart in a rigged voting booth. Figures.
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:32 PM
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16. Better watch those comments about storming the streets... |
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:33 PM by ClericJohnPreston
Thanks to your wonderful ISP and the telecommunications industry, "Echelon" at the NSA, and our favorite, "The Patriot Act", any talk of Civil Unrest, in an era of suspended Habeus Corpus, means you could have a free vacation , at the Government's expense, in Guatanomo Bay.
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Thu Jan-10-08 01:44 AM
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21. You have a point there, sad to say |
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I guess vague, semi-specific language has its advantages.
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:34 PM
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17. Yup the Repukes want Hillary to win and they want to get rid of Ron Paul |
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And look what happen. Hillary gained votes and Ron Paul was robbed of some
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:48 PM
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19. It's been paper ballots for me in California, on every election since 2000 |
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People at the voting station look at me like I'm some kind of weirdo subversive for not trusting their system, and those looks give me great satisfaction.
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