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shakerbaker Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:21 AM
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Media?What About the International Media?
If we can't get the attention of our own media perhaps we can make the international media aware of the evidence of fraud that we have.
It would sure help to have the rest of the world echoing our sentiments and seeking the arrest of the criminals involved.

If we have relatives,friends,or contacts overseas make them aware. Spread the word. I live on the Canadien border and plan to display on my car the fraud and espose it wherever I can.

If we make a big enough impact it could serve to isolate and eventially suffocate the neo cons.

Let's Do IT!!
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:27 AM
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1. Here's one from the Toronto Star
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 12:36 AM by ailsagirl
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar%2FLayout%2FArticle_Type1&c=Article&cid=1100299809222

Here's another link but it's not from an international site. Though it has some good info.

Bush Faces Mounting Allegations of Widespread Fraud in 2004 Election

http://www.whywehatebush.com/news/04_11_cheatingAgain.html

(I like that expression, "mounting allegations")
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:43 AM
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4. The star article is great...
I especially love the way he refers to us as bieng in Blogistan.
The fact that the MSM are avoiding talking about fraud and hacking to me is proof that it must have happened. Silence equals complicity.
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Surikat Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:33 AM
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2. Every day...
...that you devote to conspiracy theories about stolen elections, justified or not, is a day that you don't have to get all the dead people and household pets purged off the voter rolls. It's a day you didn't spend sorting out the paper trail mess in the country's voting systems. It's a day that you aren't thinking of ways to reduce voter fraud. It's a day that you aren't building up grassroots organizations to support your cause. It's a day that you can bet the Repugs aren't wasting.

You have 715 days till the midterm Congressional elections and 1446 days till the next Presidential election. How do want to spend them? Make up your mind.
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shakerbaker Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:36 AM
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3. There Are No More
Elections if we don't stop them any way we can right now. This is an additional approach.
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noonriser Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:41 AM
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9. Spend a little more time here and do some research.
I think you'll find that we aren't wasting our time. We may not have to wait any more years to take back our country.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:50 AM
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5. I agree- we need to get the word out any way we can!
The international media (who we know are not happy about the election results) are a great way to do this. Imagine if we can get Bev an interview with some major papers in the UK (how embarrassing for Tony Blair to find out his pal was illegally elected!), or in Canada which is just over the fence, or in any other country with lots of interested people. All of our media have outlets there too- once the buzz starts- they will have to pay attention. I will do my part this week to email as many editors and writers as possible- if everyone does the same, we should see some results. Send factual, credible, viable information and links to all of the best information we have presently. Do not be hysterical, hypothetical, off the wall or too partisan. Simply state the facts and list the evidence and provide links to intelligent articles.

Hey- we worked together to raise enough money for 2 recounts in less then 3 days- THAT IN ITSELF IS A PRETTY GOOD STORY! Look how this community is growing- so is the list at BBV and other sites like this- all part of a very good story about how the word is spreading around the U.S. - from underground.

(That's why I keep calling this the underground revolution!)
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shakerbaker Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:57 AM
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6. EXACTLY!
The World is a BIG place.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:23 AM
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7. Contact international media- I'm sure they will want to know about this!
Maybe if someone has some energy, they can do a bit of research into newspaper and magazine (weekly) editors plus t.v. newsrooms abroad? I suggest we focus on a few countries/areas first:

1) The UK- BBC, Mirror, Independent, etc.
2) Canada
3) France
4) Spain
5) Prague (not a country but a thriving, international center these days)

Greg Palast has been appearing on the BBC. Maybe someone can drop him a note to ask him to help get us connected to his contacts over there? The BBC has offices all around the world. One well places story could go a long way. He could be a great help.

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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:29 AM
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8. Here's a European, albeit non-mainstream article
Election Results Challenge Our Faith in America and Its People
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=4293
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noonriser Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:44 AM
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10. Great idea!
I can't believe that we've missed this angle so far. I haven't seen much international media on the topic. Not sure if it's 'cause I seem to spend all my time here and it's not been brought up 'til now. Thanks, I'll get on it!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:59 AM
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11. Germany
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:11 AM
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12. Another good voter fraud article
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 02:16 AM
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13. I've probably sent 50 e-mails to 5 European papers.
The UK Guardian was the only one to acknowledge my e-mails. I've sent Brian Reade at the UK Mirror at least 3 personal letters and tons of links. I translated letters and sent links to LeMonde, the Parisien, and the NiceMatin papers in France. Nothing. I talked about BBV, massive disenfranchisement, Nader & Grn/Indy candidate Ohio recounts; and I've been checking their online editions since the election. If anyone else wants to contact them, go for it. I'm done, though. I don't think the European media is all that different from the U.S. MSM, now. Props to Germany for running a story about this in one of their major papers, though.
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seaclyr Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:40 AM
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14. Still working on the British press ...
I've been e-mailing the Guardian, Independent and Mirror every other day or so with updates. I'm not quite ready to give up but I'm wondering whether the British press, at least on this issue, isn't the poodle of the U.S. MSM. I hope not, but we'll see.
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