Hey I don't know if yuo all have seen this yet but I picked it up off of blackboxvoting.org
"Bay Point Schools, Cal Tech, and the CyberNET connection."
I was at first looking at PMing this for private use, but I think its time the public see this.
Interestingly enough, Dr. Piotr Blass is not only significant and real, he has alot of resume background in Michigan state, and otherwise, is connected to a very interesting corporation known as CyberNET Venturs Inc.(which manages all of Cybernets divisions...)
In the allegations report, a certain vendor described that such a network company was financing the operation through Mel Sembler and a few other bad eggs connected to the head of the game map. Another company was described as giving source to certain code.....Turns out CyberN is indeed an open source code distributor to several organizations, ultimately not even limited to voting companies. Also turns out an employee named Guitterez works(or had worked) there and created actual databases for elections across the USA and easily the globe, that are certainly not MS Access.
http://engrm.com/personnel/gutierrez-alan/experiential.html Also interestingly enough, the state and F.B.I just barely seized CyberNET Ventures Inc capital in Michigan state for all of its computer systems. Every single last one, in one large effort, and refused to state why they had them seized and impounded.
More interesting though, is the fact that if you look and sniff around it appears CyberNET (who is also, direct finance of the white house and ambassador) had its systems freely distributed among universities...Schools, teaching sites, and so on everywhere. And more interestingly also worldwide.
But the most interesting part of all, is CyberNET's own interest in Diebold, and helping them out of some dirty circumstances....
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:mk1BGFoCVrkJ:www.eff.org/legal/ISP_liability/OPG_v_Diebold/20040930_Diebold_SJ_Order.pdf+CyberNET+Ventures+Inc.+has+contract+with+Diebold&hl=en&start=1 And of course on top of all this, ChoicePoint government who controls voting name rosters, being issued by Jeb Bush to directly not only take off the felon purge lists, but keep them as well. Authorities issued repeated orders for him to turn it off and instead he saved all the names to some hard drive and area around there in order to use them all again later.
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,65377,00.html?tw=rss.TOP What I'm seeing here, is clearly one of the ugliest watergate level scandals there ever was, and then of course the media has no idea of anything. So what can we do about it?
Here is what: We need an astute group of search experts, to find any, and every single tie the one and only CyberNET Ventures has with this issue because it leads straight to the top and back to the whitehouse. So far much information seems to be missing (blank pages) so experts who have background in information management, do your part! Search all the archives and find any and all reports and links of these companies together, linkes to ChoicePoint, links between each party and so on and get this rotton egg hard broiled!
Of course the vote totals were flipped: Using obvious malicious code of rigged names across the board, some that possibly don't even exist (see: evicted felon/citizen roster) and even adoptions for all anyone knows. And the way to make this come full force as the biggest dump ever seen is do an information sweep, and find every single leaked report there possibly is, get it recorded! Get it archived!
We can help the federal authorities and team do their job, Ireland even said this on the radio. And yes I'm going to say something some would start turning their heads in at: The Fisher story is most likely a correct, variable assessment and main report of what went on.
Schools involved clearly are not the only ones as Cal Tech and universities constantly stating the exit polls mean nothing, are all possible suspects too. I would leave no stone unturned and do your part as citizens to call it out.
Oh and good luck, we have democracy at risk here.
"Nothing is foolproof. Footprints are real."
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1. "RE: Bay Point Schools, Cal Tech, and the CyberNET connection."
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Would any republican doubt Cal Tech MIT could be involved and are also hackers in this operation?
Think again: The truth comes out, and it lands right on your face.
"6 MILLION VOTES LOST in 2000 ?!?!?
by lawnorder
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/18/45344/380 Thu Nov 18th, 2004 at 04:53:44 CDT
Did you see anything on the media about a Caltech study showing 6 MILLION VOTES LOST in 2000 ?!?!?!
Who is this Caltech / MIT Voting group?
On 2000 they were about this...
On 2004 they are about COVER -UP:
MSNBC -Rolled up papers at fifty places (Keith Olbermann)
SECAUCUS-- You know it's bad when the two sides start throwing professors at one another.
Two conflicting scholarly studies on the variance between the national exit polling and the presidential election results, are flying across the Internet.. One, from the University of Pennsylvania.. suggests the actual statistical odds that the exit polling was that wrong in the battleground states were 250,000,000 to one.
The other, from a voting project managed by CalTech and MIT, says that .. on a state-by-state basis,
A fellow Kossack had noticed the Cal Tech study was "weird" and Caltech is involved with ES & S and the extreme right wing
Another MIT report believes in fraud
The Blue Lemur - Progressive Politics and Media News
Odds of Bush gaining by 4 percent in all exit polling states 1 in 50,000; Evoting/paper variance not found to be significant
A statistical analysis of exit polling conducted for RAW STORY by a former MIT mathematics professor has found the odds of Bush making an average gain of 4.15 percent among all 16 states included in the media's 4 p.m. exit polling is 1 in 50,000, or .002 percent.
The analysis, conducted by former Associate Professor of Mathematics David Anick, also ruled out any significance of a variance between electronic balloting and paper ballot states, which RAW STORY reported last week.
The Cal Tech/MIT paper
Another Kossack summarizes it's weak numbers
Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project: Flip-Flop, Flip-Flop, Flip-Flop
I thought it odd that the November 11, 2004 Caltech/MIT .. report .. would focus so narrowly on justifying the discrepancy between the exit polls and the actual vote without ever mentioning that the openness to fraud of the electronic vote tabulation that they delineated
The paper was very weak on statistics and facts... Apparently only one person worked on it.
http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/11/wo_selker111704.asp Selker picked up the work of a REAL statistics pro (The math professor at MIT who wrote the blue lemur article above), massaged the numbers a little, added some tales about HIS experience as "observer of elections" and came up with some lame conclusions and some pretty looking Lotus graphics... And worse, he didn't even sign his paper, i.e, he must be embarassed of it... I wasn't impressed at all!
As dennisv had already pointed out here on Kos, that study is very fishy.. And Caltech is involved with ES & S
"A longtime friend of Caltech, the Ahmanson Foundation has supported the Institute's capital projects, student financial aid, and endowment for academic research and a humanities fellowship...
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm "In the early 1980s, brothers Bob and Todd Urosevich founded ES&S's originator, Data Mark. The brothers Urosevich obtained financing from the far-Right Ahmanson family in 1984, which purchased a 68% ownership stake, according to the Omaha World Herald. After brothers William and Robert Ahmanson infused Data Mark with new capital, the name was changed to American Information Systems (AIS). California newspapers have long documented the Ahmanson family's ties to right-wing evangelical Christian and Republican circles".
"According to Group Watch, in the 1980s Howard F. Ahmanson, Jr. was a member of the highly secretive far-Right Council for National Policy, an organization that included Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, Major General John K. Singlaub and other Iran-Contra scandal notables, as well as former Klan members like Richard Shoff. Ahmanson, heir to a savings and loan fortune, is little reported on in the mainstream U.S. press. But, English papers like The Independent are a bit more forthcoming on Ahmanson's politics"
Ted Selker Associate Professor of Media Arts and Sciences
Group: Context-Aware Computing
Office: E15-323
Phone: (617) 253-6968
Fax: (617) 258-6264
E-mail: selker@media
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http://www.media.mit.edu/~selker Biography
Ted Selker heads the Media Lab's Context-Aware Computing group. His research has contributed to hundreds of products ranging from notebook computers to operating systems. He is known for the design of the "TrackPoint III" in-keyboard pointing device now found in Compaq, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Sony, TI, and other computers; for creating the "COACH" adaptive agent that improves user performance (Warp Guides in OS/2); and for the design of the 755CV notebook computer that doubles as an LCD projector.
The curious source of the Caltech/MIT voting project website
Here's something you rarely see on a web site: An entire news article "hidden" on the page source as comments..
See for yourself: Click in this link
http://www.vote.caltech.edu/and try to view "source" or "Page source" on your browser..
Scrolling dow a bit, you should see this
After that line that clearly says "!-- / DELETE ME LATER" you can see the ENTIRE 2000 press release on their study on voter disenfranchisement in Florida.
So the source of
http://www.vote.caltech.edu/ includes this as comments :"!-- / DELETE ME LATER" and DOESNT SHOW the text below
A Preliminary Assessment of the Reliability of Existing Voting Equipment
July 16, 2001
Up to 6 million votes lost in 2000 presidential election, Voting Technology Project reveals
PASADENA, Calif.- Though over 100 million Americans went to the polls on election day 2000, as many as 6 million might just have well have spent the day fishing. Researchers at Caltech and MIT call these "lost votes" and think the number of uncounted votes could easily be cut by more than half in the 2004 election with just three simple reforms
To read the rest of the hidden report clean of "computer giberish" go to
http://www.texasturkey.us/backup/Nov2/Cal-tech_2001_assessment___.html We did our best, TRUST US e-vote petition from Cal-Tech/MIT vote project
"We did our best so you should believe us" is the gist of it. It got an "underwhelming" total of... less than 20 signatures!"
Friend sent that information over to me. Who's the texas turkey? Cal Tech MIT, Bay Point, and other university schools who were used in the 2004 kill democracy campaign }> }>
This is not a partisan issue folks, this is massive widespread crime that effects all of us. Period, and until pounded to the wall on all sides democracy is dead.
"Nothing is foolproof. Footprints are real."
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