jmknapp
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Thu Nov-18-04 10:28 AM
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Vote rigging by machine allocation in Franklin County, Ohio |
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Thu Nov-18-04 10:44 AM
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Very clear statistical evidence. Some of this is sure to be the urban vs rural polling places, but it's still unequal protection.
Do you have the raw data by any chance? Is it tied in to the actual vote? That would make an interesting further analysis -- you could show how fewer machines derpressed turnout.
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Thu Nov-18-04 11:06 AM
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4. Good idea... here it is |
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Thu Nov-18-04 12:42 PM
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Can you make it three dimensional with the Kerry vote as another variable? ;)
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Thu Nov-18-04 05:40 PM
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16. Not 3D, but color-coded |
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Thu Nov-18-04 05:54 PM
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17. Excellent, this is the graph |
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Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 05:56 PM by Critical Thinker
...that most clearly presents your case, IMO. Great work !!!
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Thu Nov-18-04 10:51 AM
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2. Very cool. The 9 hour poll tax in graphic format! |
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Thu Nov-18-04 11:25 AM
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.....9 hour poll tax indeed! :evilfrown:
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Thu Nov-18-04 10:57 AM
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3. Very interesting analysis, but |
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Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 10:59 AM by Critical Thinker
You may have left out the single most important plot: what I don't see is an analysis of total ballots recorded per machine vs. Kerry % in precinct
If voter turnout per machine were actually "flat", then it would show that the BoE people had done a good job of providing a "level field" throughout the county.
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Thu Nov-18-04 11:13 AM
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Basically the machines were operating at their maximum capacity in most precincts. So the throughput would be expected to be flat across precincts in the overloaded case. Your analysis doesn't take into account the people deterred by the long lines, walking away never to return.
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Thu Nov-18-04 11:14 AM
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6. Ohio testimony kpfk right now! |
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http:///www.kpfk.orgListen to testimony.
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Thu Nov-18-04 11:24 AM
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7. only shows a slight bias |
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Sorry but it does not appear outrageous enough. The ture test is to simply draw the line at the 50% mark. Now that DOES show more machines in anti-Kerry precincts.
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Thu Nov-18-04 11:33 AM
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9. The way queuing theory works is |
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that near the maximum capacity of a server, a smallish increase in traffic can cause the queues to balloon.
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Thu Nov-18-04 11:53 AM
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OK, I just now saw the plot you posted in Reply 4. IMO, that plot does present good evidence that inadequate machine distribution correlates to surpressed turnout. Need to figure some way to tie the info in plot 3 with the info in the first 2 plots...
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Thu Nov-18-04 12:06 PM
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12. Here's the spreadhseet |
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...if you want to try your own analysis: http://www.copperas.com/votingmachines/fcresults.zip (zipped excel file)
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Thu Nov-18-04 11:50 AM
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10. It May not be Outrageous |
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but it's plenty large enough to swing the election. Smaller precincts averaged about 60% turnout, larger ones were under 50%.
The thing that's especially great about this is it's all Franklin County. The comparison is much more apt than if Cleveland and Toledo were shown next to some farming communities.
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Thu Nov-18-04 12:47 PM
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14. well then similar tables need to be drawn up statewide |
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to get a fuller picture. The anecodtal evidence is overwhelming that the Dem precincts got screwed. We need tangible proof.
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Thu Nov-18-04 02:54 PM
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15. Here's a fuller picture of Franklin County |
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Thu Nov-18-04 07:33 PM
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Thu Nov-18-04 09:07 PM
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19. Here's a web page summarizing the results |
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Thanks for the suggestions, DUers... http://www.copperas.com/machinery
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