Carl Brennan
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:07 PM
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Bev Harris was threatened by the Secret Service |
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earlier this year. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1493426&mesg_id=1493426......Now, I have been interviewed by the Secret Service on this VoteHere "hack" story about five times. They never spend much time on the hack. Most of the time is spent on the Diebold memos, which they claim they are not investigating.
Here's the deal: The leaking of memos to journalists is not something the government can come in and demand to investigate very easily.
Under the Patriot Act, "hacking" crimes were turned over to a new division, called the CyberCrimes division, and placed under the auspices of the Secret Service. And let me tell you what they want from me now: They want the logs of my web site with all the forum messages, and the IP addresses. That's right. All of them. A giant fishing expedition for every communication of everyone interested in the voting issue. This has nothing to do with a VoteHere "hack" investigation, and I have refused to turn it over.
So, yesterday, they call me up and tell me they are going to subpeona me and put me in front of a grand jury. Well, let 'em. They still aren't getting the list of members of BlackBoxVoting.org unless they seize my computer -- which my attorney tells me might be what they have in mind.http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1493426&mesg_id=1493426
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:08 PM
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1. That was kinda cold, since no one has heard from Bev for a week |
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and some folks are getting worried.
My two cents worth only on this post.
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:18 PM
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9. Ida Briggs posted somewhere last night that she had talked with |
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Bev on Friday. And that she sounded tired. (from running nonstop since the election, I bet!) Ida said she'd try to fill us in on what she knows after she gets some sleep!
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:10 PM
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they read every word of DU? Pfft!!
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:10 PM
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3. yeah, that is a really misleading headline for an OLD story |
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:10 PM
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I want my name on that list immediately.... |
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:12 PM
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That reminds me of a great song by a political satire duo named the "Prince Myshkins." "Why aren't WE on the list? Did we do something wrong?"
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:10 PM
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4. Fight on BEV our democracy is at stake. |
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:11 PM
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5. what can I do to help? Just say the word... |
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Now I'm starting to get worried for her safety. I've seen this MO before.
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:18 PM
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Bev is on an investigation. She can't babysit you every ten seconds.
That is a very old story. Carl, as I understand it, some people threw tea in the harbor to diss the Queen of England too -- oops, old story.
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:29 PM
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12. I think that tea thing was to annoy a king, not a queen. |
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George III, as I recall. We've had a problem with dicatatorial Georges for a long time in this country, I guess. The present one probly doesn't give a shit about tea, though.
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:38 PM
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What would happen if people around the world started dumping crates of a certain high-sales soda pop into their harbors?
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:49 PM
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16. I somehow think this plan would fizzle. |
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:21 PM
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You can't depend on links to anything, and you can't depend on DU always being up. If you have info that might be important for the investigation, get paper copies, (best) or copies on your computer (no good if you get hacked). Sounds paranoid, but, hey, the paranoids are after us!
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:57 PM
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the paranoids are after us
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:16 PM
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7. you need to change that headline now |
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:23 PM
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Are not a way to gain respect around here.
You should know better then that and apologize openly.
In fact, I think anybody for now on that posts something intentionally misleading should have to publicly apologize. After all, deception is the Repubs best weapon, it shouldn't be ours.....
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:32 PM
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14. "deception is the Repubs best weapon, it shouldn't be ours....." |
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...well, at least among each other. I'd probly deceive one of THEM if I could, though, maybe even just for the hell of it.
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Mon Nov-22-04 02:31 PM
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13. Please CHANGE this thread title. |
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It is RUDE to mislead people, when it is an OLD bit of news. "Ealier this year, Secret Service threatened Bev Harris" would be an accurate title.
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Mon Nov-22-04 03:22 PM
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19. Gosh, I can't make no friends today |
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