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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:52 AM
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Rupert Murdoch omnisciently declared, "Those exit polls are wrong,"
on election night,like Cheney. Looks like he hit the pavement running with spin already in place.

Newsweek, 11/29/04, p.38. A Mogul's Migraine, by Johnnie L. Roberts.

"When Rupert Murdoch arrived at the election-night party at his Fox News network in Manhattan, he was met by long faces. His executives worried that Murdoch, the president's biggest booster in the media, was in for a disappointing night. After all, the early polls had shown John Kerry ahead. But Murdoch wasn't buying it. 'Those exit polls are wrong,' Murdoch declared, in his thick Australian accent, to the crowd. By midnight, George W. Bush was ahead, and Murdoch was festive."


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:54 AM
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1. hmm so murdoch is in the deal,
I see
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:55 AM
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2. It's not who votes that counts
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 11:55 AM by tk2kewl
It's who counts the votes. -- Joseph Stalin
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:58 AM
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5. ironic, the Ukraine has evolved and we've devolved
are we not men? we are devo.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:06 PM
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8. Whip it good gets a new meaning under this administration
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radiofreesrini Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:11 PM
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9. freedom from choice
is what we've got :(

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ahyums Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:56 AM
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3. maybe Hannity got his prediction straight from Murdoch then
it would have a symmetry although I can't really picture those two sharing long chats.
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:51 PM
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13. If Murdoch didn't love Hannity, he wouldn't be working at Fox
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:55 PM
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19. Hannity gets good ratings, both on tv and radio.
It's not like Dennis Miller, who GE keeps on in spite of his awful ratings.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:57 AM
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4. In the Ukraine
they are right. In the U.S. they are wrong. Rupert Murdoch, have you no shame?
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:04 PM
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6. If Murdoch knew the polls were wrong
that means they were right. But he's a bit long in the tooth to be staying up so late, isn't he?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:06 PM
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7. The Fix Was IN...
...the exit polls were RIGHT.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:41 PM
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17. So I take it...
...you trust Warren Mitofsky and Edison Media Research?
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:24 PM
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10. Why do they pay for exit polls that are wrong?
Is it because they have always been accurate in the past?

Rupert Murdoch the statistician...no banana.
He can kiss my butt.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:29 PM
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11. And Murdoch's qualifications for such a statement are what, exactly?
Let's pretend that the exit polls had been in favor of bush, and tracked the final tallies.

Can you begin to even imagine how the exit polls would be shoved in everyone's faces? The Republicans would probably hire skywriters to send out the message, "EXIT POLLS PREDICT ELECTION WITH UNFLINCHING ACCURACY!"

It would be on the headline of every major newspaper; it is all that the talking heads would be bobbling their heads about for weeks and weeks. It would be a ceaseless talking point ad nauseam.

Instead, because the Republicans choose to alter reality to suit their agenda, we have the opposite modus operandi in place.

It's disgusting, it really is. The truth is the truth. And nothing they say or do will ever alter the truth. Ever.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:38 PM
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15. You are absolutely correct
If the roles were reversed the Republicans would be shoving the exit polls in everyone's faces. And yes, the Republicans would also probably hire skywriters to send out the message, "EXIT POLLS PREDICT ELECTION WITH UNFLINCHING ACCURACY!".

And they would be wrong.

Just like we are now.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:44 PM
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12. So I assume that if he thinks the polls were wrong then he will refuse
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 12:47 PM by higher class
to pay his share of the network consortium fee to the exit poll companies that the consortium hired. Weren't the polling firms were hired under contract - did it say that the firms would be paid whether or not they fed wrong data?

Or is he (an Austral;ian) saying that Americans are liars - that we lied on exiting the polls?

He is a despicable foreigner who has broken our laws and manipulates our news and denies us our news. He allows lying on every program.

He presents some of the worst blood, war, murder, and sex films in our country. He gives us garbage programs.

We seem to give huge green lights to the worst kind of human beings.

I am very anti-Murdoch and Moon.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:36 PM
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14. Warren Mitofsky said the same thing
Warren Mitofsky and Edison Media Research were hired by the NEP (National Election Pool) to conducted the exit polls. Now for all of you that are convinced that the early exit polls are proof of fraud, I have only one question:

Do you trust Warren Mitofsky and Edison Media Research?

Its a very simple question with a yes or no answer, but none of you seem to be willing to answer it. Why? Is it irrelevant to ask if you trust the individual and organization that actually produced the exit polls? No. So why are you all running away from the question?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:24 PM
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16. Come to think of it, who is Warren Mitofsky? What are his connections?
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 02:26 PM by Straight Shooter
Who is this guy, and how did he obtain this position of influence?

Anybody know this man's history?

edit: I know his current position, and I'm wondering if we should investigate this little turkey with more scrutiny. He claims to be nonpartisan. Perhaps we can find data to dispute that.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:42 PM
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18. Start asking the right questions
...and see where it goes.
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