Wayne Madsen will be on radio Today! Listen online.

[rhite5]

http://www.kpft.org Listen online.

It is the 6PM CST Sunday Monitor show in Houston, also carried by Pacifica network. He is expected to be interviewed around 6:15 - 6:30CST

Topic of course is the new allegations about how technological fraud in the vote counts may have been carried out.

For those who miss it, the program will be in the online archives later.

[Stand and Fight]

1. Thanks!

Thanks for posting that. I am tuning in right now!! You're super.

:kick:

[propagandafreegal]

43. Here is the link to the archives... Sunday Monitor isn't on yet but

I'll check it back later...

http://www.kpftx.org/archives/kpftsignal/

[Dolphyn]

76. Here's the direct link to download the program (MP3 file)

http://www.kpftx.org/archives/kpftsignal/mp3/041128_180004monitor.MP3

Alternative link to "play" the program (didn't work for me):
http://www.kpftx.org/archives/kpftsignal/pls.php?mp3fil=930

[Stand and Fight]

2. Got it.

Top of the page. Real Player stream.

[MelissaB]

3. Yeah, the one that says

"on the air". Thanks!

[Stand and Fight]

4. KICK

:kick:
This is coming out of Houston of all places.

[eleny]

5. Madsen coming up next!

[IAMREALITY]

6. He's coming on next (1 minute) n/t

[MelissaB]

7. They are discussing recounts and

election problems now and Madsen in on the phone on hold.

:kick:

[YellowDoginthehouse]

8. Listening, thanks.

Not sure, but it sounds like Amy Goodman, covering the lawsuits in Ohio. She is saying that the Electronic Frontier Foundation currently has a petition on their site which attempts to force electronic voting machine manufacturers to open up their equipment to scrutiny.

Wayne Madsen coming up right now.

[Woo]

12. It's full up --

Server can not take anymore streams -- who' s listening?

Keep us up to date.

[Stand and Fight]

9. KICK

He's coming on in a few minutes. Let's see if he sounds like a flake. Fisher sure did. He's on!!!!!

[crispini]

10. Listening now, someone talking about CIA purges, etc.

Probably not Madsen?

[YellowDoginthehouse]

13. It is Madsen. They're gonna do the vote next. n/t

[Digit]

11. Wayne is on NOW

[MelissaB]

14. Bush is too close to the Saudies and

is talking about the money used to corrupt the election.

[MelissaB]

18. Padding votes and

votes to ohio.

Says has check from and to "shell" operations. Equity Financial Trust and 5 Star. Bush family has used these ententies for yrs.
Bcci and enron mentioned .
Bush family predictable how they do thier business.

sorry...trying to take notes fast.

[MelissaB]

22. Fl, OH, Tx, and Ca

used for padding for votes nation wide. Scam carried out with machines.

Money laundering and criminal conspiracy.
Rt wing thinks Bush won things fair and sq.

Justice for music $200,000 reward
www.jtmp.org ??

Has book coming out about Bush family later.

[MelissaB]

33. Interviewer asked ? about Iran attack that he predicted would happen.

Obviously they didn't have to use the contingency plan.

Says cia operatives that have been purged may know more about the bogus charges about Iran having nuclear weapon.

[eleny]

38. Ohio for the EC numbers, Ca & Tx to pad the popular vote

He really was breaking it down!

Also said that they didn't go after OBL because that would be like airing in-house fighting within a corporation. Wow.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

40. I hipped him to that reward.

n/t

[eleny]

48. good work!

:thumbsup:

[Laelth]

15. Wow! This man is risking his life for democracy.

He has more courage than I, to be sure. I think we have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

:scared:

-Laelth

[bagimin]

20. Real Player has reached capacity.....

my stream crashed......eeech!

[ewulf]

24. Me too...

Too many damn DUers out there! :)

[Stand and Fight]

16. What's with the Interviewer?

Why is he not asking the tough questions???

[YellowDoginthehouse]

17. This is completely believeable, and I think he's right. n/t

[Lil]

19. anything new? Thanks. (can't stream it)

[YellowDoginthehouse]

21. Hold on, and I'll summarize when it's over...n/t

[huckleberry]

28. did you get the website that he just mentioned - something like jt--.org

[Digit]

37. It was jtmp.org

Justice through music offering reward...

[huckleberry]

41. Thanks!!!

[Lil]

29. Thanks & since we're not waiting on the pony express to deliver news. . .

. . I can manage. (big grin)

[mzmolly]

66. Waiting for your summary.

:hi:

[IAMREALITY]

77. Please See

Posts #32 and #36. They were posted Hours ago.

:hi:

[mzmolly]

67. Waiting for your summary.

:hi:

[IAMREALITY]

26. Continued

Says that investigations into people posing as FBI and Homeland security in some of Ohio counties (I believe) could turn up the smoking gun (if someone does these investigations).

The most important thing I can say so far is that HE DOES NOT COME OFF AS A WACKO. He is very well spoken, educated, and seems to know EXACTLY what he is talking about. I am encouraged.

[GettysbergII]

27. Wayne Masden sounds very credible......

Mentioned how Irangate started because of a check number. That these Banks are bank the Bush's have used many times before

[GettysbergII]

31. Wayne explains that Bush didn't use the Iran option because he didn't have

to......

[GettysbergII]

34. Time frame of story, usually wouild take more time to develop story

but because of the 'ticking clock', he's pushing it

[Chasing Dreams]

23. Very articulate, believable, brave. He rocks...

and if its true, the House of * begins to crumble :party:

[pick_a_dilly]

25. listening and . . .

sounds cogent to me . . . wants federal judges to forstall OHIO certification to alllow full investigation!!

GO WAYNE!!!!! a new hero???

bush family history is subject of his next book . . . man --- some balls on this boy!!

[Evening Star]

35. Gore Vidal ! Part 2 --Wayne really sounds cognizant about

all this and seems to have a good pulse on the BFEE and this issue.

I will look forward to Wayne's updates

[Straight Shooter]

30. I can't stream, but I wish he hadn't mentioned the book coming out

This could cast doubt on what he's saying, making it seem like self-serving promotion.

Not making judgments here, trying to be objective.

Please keep us informed. Thanks.

:thumbsup:

[mirandapriestly]

46. I thought that too, unfortunately n/t

[Stand and Fight]

32. Wayne's Interview, Shorthand Transcript

Here's the notes I made during the interview:

What is ideal for this to happen?
"optimal situation... people will pay attention to story"
"ohio supreme court postpone electoral college"
"what im trying to say is that bush did not win tis fair and square committed crimes to win this election"

In response to his life could be in danger:
"written about Karl Rove."
"the deal w/ the operatives. squeeling arised because they felt they were stiffed about not being paid."
"this is how Watergate was exposed."
"McChord decided he wasn't going to get the million dollars"
"similar thing with Iran-Contra scandal."
"one thing about the bushes. they never change their m.o. seems like it got them in trouble again."

Ashcroft effort by counter-terrorism:
"apparently what happened in Warren County Ohio. This may be one of the cases... Shut the place down to allow this manipulation to occur."
"this may be the smoking gun." regarding supposed Homeland security and FBI presence during elections
"Similar cases in N. Carolina and Florida."
"...may find the smoking gun here."

Discussion about Iran article:
"obviously they didn't need to use the contingency plan."
"info. came from U.S.S. John Kennedy."
"it was just one option of many."
"wag the dog type scenerio."

Colin Powell vague language about Iran. Any clues about Iran? Is intelligence as bad as what we had for Iraq?
"People who have been fired/resigned are aware of this bogus information."
"Drum beat from same people."
"Neoconservatives."

In the course of thing, what kind of time frame?
"Normally a long lead type thing... cultivate sources. Issue here, ticking clock. Certification in Ohio. Doesn't mean that those are the two dates that we don't get anything done. Critical dates are this coming Friday and meeting of electoral college."

[crispini]

36. Here are all my notes

Bushes too close to saudis. They're not capable of fighting this war w. Al Quaeda.

A huge (something?) of money was used to pay programmers, interlocuters, people posing as homeland security and FBI, people who went into various precincts when there were no monitors or polling workers present.

OHIO was key, also padding of votes in other large popular states.

29 million. has a copy of the check. two shell operators -- offshore entities. From equity financial trust to five star investments. Used by bush family to move money around. are also connected to other bush operations, BCCI and enron. they are very predictable in how they do their business.

investigation in progress. there are other leads I'm following. FLA OH TX CA. carried out using electronic voting machines, touchscreens and optical scanners.

wants to forestall certification of OH Friday, meeting of EC on Dec. 13. Criminal investigation should be opened.

Point: If conspiracies don't exists why does the DOJ go after 'conspiracies?'

www.jpmp.org $200,000 reward. Houstonites, pay attn!

He has a book coming out at the beginning of the year re: BFEE.

re: the squealing -- they were stiffed. That's how we found out about Watergate, Iran Contra.

Interviewer bringing in FBI helping out on Election Day plots (USA Today story, predates election)
Madsen bringing up Warren County.
Similar reports Hamilton County, OH. North Carolina, Florida.

"When people start to look into this we may find the smoking gun here."

Interviewer: Iran before the election?
Madsen: U.S.S. Kennedy was key to the whole operation. Would've involved Isreal, US. Just one option of many- wag the dog scenario.

Interviewer: Powell mentioning Iran pre-election.
Madsen: Our intelligence just isn't good enough re: what's going on in Iraq. Coming out of the neocon think tanks, etc.

What timeframe are we looking at for this story?
Madsen: Typically a long lead, cultivate, sources, travel. Critical dates are this coming Friday, meeting of EC.

(edited to add USS Kennedy -- otherwise it sounds like JFK or something weird.)

[pacalo]

52. This is much, much huger than Watergate!

Watergate pales in comparison; I hope this is blown WIDE open.

Thanks for all the notes, guys! :)

[Dolphyn]

74. Typo: jpmp.org s/b jtmp.org

Thanks for the summary!

There's a typo in the URL. The links should be http://www.jtmp.org .

[pick_a_dilly]

39. his explainiation of his earlier claim about ...

IRAN attack, that never happened, was believable.

said that the rovian plan was not needed.

his sources were evidently service men on the boat ready to attack the iranian nuke plant to 'wag' the pup.

i was very impressed by wayne...

[eleny]

45. The USS John F Kennedy was in place and ready

Staff on the ship was shocked when the leak occurred as they were in lock down about info leaking out.

[Stand and Fight]

42. Nothing like Jeff Fisher

This guy does not sound like a flake at all. He sounds like a stand-up honest guy to me. Very credible, very article, very together in his thought processes and his arguments.

[tandem5]

60. yeah I was thinking the same thing n/t

[Laelth]

44. Gore Vidal is on now.

He rocks too. I had never heard him before ... very gravelly voice. I think he must have been smoking for a few years.

Vidal: (paraphrase) We have never been a democracy in the US, and we're not now. The elections have always been crooked. The electoral college is a mechanism designed to prevent the will of the people from being expressed in the office of the President.

-Laelth

[Stand and Fight]

47. Big during the 90s

He was pretty big during the 1990s and he defintiely has some push. I wonder if the mainstream media would listen to him? Oh no! Not now, they're a bunch of fucking neo-cons!

[ahyums]

71. related to Al Gore somehow too as I remember

[Straight Shooter]

50. Recent New Yorker issue features Gore Vidal; he voted for bush

Vidal doesn't allow his philosophies to interfere with his self-interest.

What he says is overshadowed by what he does.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. Seems I read the article a few days ago and my memory isn't perfect.

[Stand and Fight]

54. Nope...

I seriously doubt the guy voted for Bush given this interview:

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/04/11/int04057.html

[pacalo]

56. I read a NYTimes article several months ago; he doesn't like Bush.

[NVMojo]

75. you people crack me up! What it takes for you to realize this guy is the

same professional he was before you heard him makes me roll on the floor laughing. All you needed to do was look him up with google. I really do think the majority of people in this country have been spoiled by Fox News and the other neocon media think tanks calling themselves "MSM" that you don't know a professional investigator or investigative journalist if they hit you between the eyes. This guy deserved more respect than he got from you all before now.

BTW, he's written a book slamming the Bush family. Do you need me to look it up for you?

[KoKo]

70. He would never vote for Bush he's so cantankerous he might not have

voted at all. Vidal has been cynical about American Politics for decades and moved to France with his "partner" to get away. He only recently came back after his partner died.

He's written articles since then about how dreadful the Bush policies have been. Unless you can give a link....I will go with what I know about Gore Vidal for many years....NO WAY he would vote for Bush.

[Eloriel]

58. I think you must be mistaken

Gore Vidal makes Michael Moore look like a conservative.

He was one of few who wrote books prior to the Iraq war that it was a stupid idea and exposing the oil interests, etc.

No, Vidal wouldn't vote for Bush.

[Straight Shooter]

73. You're absolutely right. I am totally 100 percent mistaken.

I'm getting my curmudgeons confused. The article I read was about William Buckley.

So sorry, so sorry. *groveling for forgiveness*

[crispini]

49. Well, in summary:

He didn't sound like a loon. But there wasn't much new info here. I understand that obviously one can't endanger an investigation in progress, but at this point, to get attention, we're going to need an interview with Deep Throat or something. Also, technical details of how the hack was done.

Question: If he's already got a substantive level of corroborative detail, why not tell us?

And if he doesn't have that yet, isn't he endangering his story by going public at all?

[pacalo]

55. If he's going public, he must have support in place.

It wouldn't make sense to stick his neck out otherwise. He doesn't sound like a crackpot; he sounds savvy.

[Stand and Fight]

51. Kicking it...

I want discussion on this, so I'm kicking it again.

:kick:

[jdog]

53. kick

[Woo]

59. BREAKING NEWS --

On the same radio station/program that had Madsen interview --

A group claimed to have PROOF of how the election was rigged for Bush in Ohio --

Is this CORRECT -- can someone verify??

[Stand and Fight]

57. Breaking news regarding Jesse Jackson Rally Today

BREAKING NEWS FROM OHIO 7:03pm CST:

Columbus, Ohio

JJ in Ohio at large African-American church. Press conference before rally in which lead attorney openly stated that they discovered the method by which the election in Ohio was rigged for G.W. Bush. As many as 65,000 votes were lifted from the Kerry column to the Bush column. Discovered from parallel race (Connally). Democratic Supreme Court justice ended up getting more votes than Kerry did. Attorneys are surmising that the only way this could have happened is if votes were lifted from Kerry to Bush. They have the actual vote counts.

--Evan Davis

http://www.freepress.org

I got this information from the live interview with Evan Davis at the following web address:
http://www.kpft.org/

[jsamuel]

61. :O

:0

[Karenca]

62. :)) :0) :,)) We thank you! nt

[jsamuel]

63. Could you expound? How absolute?

[seito]

65. More information

This is discussed in more detail on this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x86427

[helderheid]

64. ....

KICK!

[ahyums]

68. well well, he actually seems to know what he's talking about and he's well

aware of the time pressure, I've suddenly got even more optimistic about all this than I even was before - today seems to be a very good day to this point.

[rhite5]

69. Thanks to everyone for the blow by blow report and the note-taking!

My old computer froze and crashed when I attempted to listen to the program, not once but THREE times!

I am really grateful to those of you who took notes and transcribed them.

[Vote4Kerry]

72. Link to MP3 of show

http://forum.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=39327&s=9dee6d8f82da170e9478bc2313864583

[ooglymoogly]

78. did anyone read k. olbermann

he crapped all over madson in his blog. im hoping madson can pull it off and get his story out and by god i hope its true!!!!!!!!!we can't afford any more ambushes alla 60 minutes and the conveniantly faked memo. anybody have any info on wayn madson. is he credible?

[thjay]

79. I listened to Madsen. Thank you.

I've been reading DU since the week of the election. I haven't posted before because I didn't feel like I really had anything to offer. DU has challenged me to do some of my own research and I've learned a ton. I read DU several times a day, even at work. I got home this afternoon and logged in to DU just in time to see this post. I listened to the Madsen interview. He was totally believable. It gave me hope. If credible people like Madsen are investigating this fraud the truth will eventually get out. Thanks to everyone on DU for helping keep us informed.

[Vote4Kerry]

80. Everybody, Wayne Madsen will now answer your questions at this thread

Jamboi was good enough to set up a thread for Q&A with Madsen. The thread is on DU here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x86907

[trayfoot]

81. Madsen does sound credible enough

I did listen to the radio interview and was impressed - first, that he was doing it, and second that he did not sound like a total nutcase. I sincerely hope and pray that this leads to something so significant that even the neocon Congress cannot afford to ignore it.