Are the Dem's trying to kill the Repub Party? A bad chess analogy.

[mikelewis]

This is just a thought but the article about Kerry's Lawyers coming to the aid to intervene on the behalf of the Green/Libertarian party in Ohio raises an interesting question.

If the Dem's do have the proof of voter fraud and it is strong enough to unseat President Bush, then why would they attack with such weak pieces (chess analogy)? At best, the GLibs could be considered knights. (we are the pawns BTW but, hey, at least we're on the board) With such an important issue, why such weak moves?

Here's the moves as I see them.

First, white pawn moves, several 527 and voting advocate rights groups start crying "fraud". A small group of the population begins to focus in on certain irregularities. The white pawns gain a better tactical position.

The Black pawns begin to match the moves setting up a strong defense. Local media and minor officials come out debunking the fraud claims and stalling the investigations.

White moves out Kings Bishop. Sen. Conyers and Kucinich begin a low-key grass roots move to protect the pawns but not really threatening any black pieces.

Black Queen Bishop (Media) moves to the center of the board cover the black pawns.

White's pawns attack hard with exit poll data and voting machine irregularities.

Black Rook moves in with a statistical attack on the exit polls and defends the voting machines. The MIT research paper is protected by the black media bishops.

White Rook blocks Black Rook and is in a better strategic position but still cannot take Black Rook as the full exit poll data has not been released. The Berkley Paper has strong strategic position but still very little attack value.

Black Knight Nader calls for a recount in NH. Many people believe Nader is White but he's not. He's been in bed with Black Bishops for years. His book was financed by FOX and he received many campaign contributions from right-wing political groups. He is a Black Knight.

White moves more pawns revealing holes and opening up attack paths.

Black goes defensive , relying on bishops (Media and Senators) and knights (Blackwell and BOE officials) to block any openings and cover holes. The black pawns are still in good defensive position so not much changes here.

White moves in with an attack from both Knights (The Glibs), the Greens on the left and the Libertarians on the right. These attacks are strongly focused on the black knights.

The Black Knights counter attack claiming that the election was fair and the recount would cause too much of a burden on Ohio residents. They try a legal challenge to block the recount and further stall the recount effort.

White Queen, (Kerry's Lawyers) slide in behind the knights protecting them and forcing either a sacrifice or a retreat.

The next move is Blacks. This is roughly where we are. There have been some very interesting and heated battles between the minor pieces but this is the first we've seen of the Queen.

My guess is that Black is castling. That is why we are seeing the cabinet members leaving. It's a diversion to get the heat off the King. Many of these cabinet members are very controversial. It may be a move to draw some heat away. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

I think the White Queen is in a good tactical position but the Black Queen (Ohio Supreme Court) is strongly protected.

The next set of moves are going to yield some real damage. Many pieces are going to have to be traded and lost in this campaign. My guess is the Glibs are going to open up attack paths for the White Queen. They may have to be sacrificed but I think they want to save them for the end game.

But if this plays out and white should win, could the Dem's be planning to replace the GOP with the White knights (the Glibs)? If the Knights win this war, they will gain more exposure and more supporters. This is why I think the Dem's are trying to kill the Repub party.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[tbuddha]

1. I'm for the destruction of the GOP

Watergate, now 30 years later, Votergate. I think we have the organization to really stomp them into the ground for a long time. And they are digging their own graves for us to put them in.

[mikelewis]

7. But keep in mind why Watergate happened.

Nixon really was a decent person. I know he's been vilified over the years but in 1960, he was an honest man. He wasn't particularly strong politcally but that's why the GOP backed him. They knew that if they could put this man in office, he would allow them a lot more control over policy and appointments. The 1960 election had implications of fraud as deep and as incidious as this election. This was where Mayor Daley registered dead people to vote in Chicago. This troubled Nixon even until the day he died. Many believe that he would not have participated in Watergate if the 1960 election hadn't been so appearantly fraudulent.


Another example is Lincoln. Many people believed the Republicans needed to be wiped out then as well. Many of Lincolns policies were very devisive and his election wasn't the most above board election in history. There is a reason many people in the GOP refer to Bush as the new Lincoln. Though I admire Lincoln, I can see the bad and the good in these men and can accept the decisions that they made.

I despise Bush but that has nothing to do with this vote. The election process has been crooked ever since we've had elections. I am not so concerned with this fraud though I am committed to finding a strategy to limit it in the future. I believe it should be exposed and I believe Bush should be disgraced. I hope it's by vote fraud as this would be the best way out for him and the country. If not, don't worry. He's going down and down hard. That I can promise you. I just hope the GOP isn't erradicated with the Fall of the House of Bush. In 4 more years, we might be writing the same things about Kerry if he doesn't have a check on his power.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

11. Funny how current history reforms your views of the past.

In 74, I don't think there was a more evil man alive. Dimson proves that evil is indeed a relative term of measurement.

But Nixon's political rise was due in part to the Bush family. Even then, they were cultivating the weed garden in which the BFEE now has bloomed.

[mikelewis]

15. I'm not trying to rewrite history, maybe I'm just being kind

I have read about Nixon and he was a politician but he wasn't very effective. There are a lot of similarities in perception between Kerry and Nixon though obviously they have completely different ideologies and moral values.

That's more of what I'm commenting on. Nixon wasn't seen as great leader. He did make a lot of bad choices but I don't think he was evil. I think Bush is Evil or at least from some really deep level of Tarterus. I don't think Nixon would have done the things Bush has done. I don't see it in him. I could be wrong. He inspired a deep hatred by his escalation of the Vietnam War but I think he did is because he sold out to gain the Presidency. I think that's all he wanted, to be President. That was and had been the central focus of his life. I am not forgiving or forgetting the things he did. I am commenting on the motivation. Bush and Co., they have a different agenda and it is deeply disturbing. I think that Bush could give less of a shit about being President. He doesn't give a shit about America or our Democracy. I think this is just a means to an end for him. Not the end.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

17. Don't get me wrong Mike, I was using the universal "your" in my

subject line. I really liked your chess analysis of this political battle that is indeed shaping up, too.

And Nixon was a complicated man, no question. In some ways, he was quite enlightened (opening China), in other ways pretty dark (his paranoia and 'enemies' list).

What I find intriguing today is his rise to prominence and the Bush associations that are entwined....Prescott Bush was his connection into bigtime politics....and he returned the favor by elevating GHWBush into Republican politics/ambassadorship/CIA.

Dimson, though, he's going to have lots of books written about him. I'm convinced he was selected for the attributes he possesses: no apparent curiousity, an ability to do as told, a history of gaming the system for his benefit....all things important in the New Republican Party. What people may not have understood were some of the deep psychological baggage that he obviously has. Some deep rooted Oedipus complex and a need to overachieve, in certain ways, to prove himself to his father. A rather pathological inability to relate his actions to the human condition. A proclivity towards meaness and revenge. An ego-centric worldview. Typical human shortcomings that are catastrophic in Presidents.

[mikelewis]

21. Yeah, I hate him too LOL

[Chasing Dreams]

16. I hope you are kidding about Nixon,

who was clearly a paranoid facist, prolonged the Vietnam war for several years, and WAS responsible for Watergate. Still, he looks like Santa compared to *

Yes, 1960 was crooked. The Repukes got even in 1972. They took the lead in election cheating in 2000, and drew further ahead in 2002. They are now at least three national elections ahead (4 if you count Irangate I in 1980) in the cheating game. So far ahead, in fact, that the Dems are no longer in the game.

[mikelewis]

20. I'm not "kidding", I know this will make your blood boil but

I actually feel kind of bad for Nixon. I think he was way over his head in his Presidency. I think he was ill-suited for the job and not mentally strong enough to handle the pressure the job places on a person. It's different when you don't live through it, I know. I'm sure history will view Bush in a milder light than I do. And when I hear someone speak anything but hatred to wards him, I'll try and show them how they are wrong. I probably am wrong, BTW. I am going off of what I know of Nixon and that is no where near as much as those who fought against him. I am looking at him through a different looking-glass and don't see the complete picture. It's different when you are researching every move a man makes and when you are merely glancing at him in historical context as I am doing with Nixon. But my impression of him is a man who was ill-suited for the position he craved.

If Bill Clinton had been the President in stead of Nixon, I think the Vietnam War would have turned out differently. I'm not sure how but I think the way history views this war would have been radically different. He was a man suited to be President. I think he would have handled the situation much differently. I'm not particularly fond of Clinton either. The War in Kosovo and the Oklahoma City Bombing killed any fondness I held for him but I believe the way he handled these crisis shows true leadership. Reagan also would have lent a different air to Vietnam. The war was fucked up from the beginning and no matter how you spin it, was wrong but weak leaders make a situation much worse.

Look at Bush, as much as I despise him. He is a strong leader. The fiasco that is Iraq rolls off him like butter on a hot roll. Half the country think he's an idiot and the other half thinks he's brilliant. I think he's a bit of both. No matter the perception, the public perception is that he is trying to do the "right thing" though anyone who looks hard enough knows exactly what he is doing. Douglas Adams, who wrote the "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy", wrote that the president isn't a man who holds power, he's a diversion from the people do. Of course, he was talking about a two-headed alien but the point was well made. Nixon wasn't a master of his own house and it led to his downfall, both politically and mentally.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

23. One thing Mike.

The Elephant in the room is the media. Neither Nixon nor Clinton had the media enabling them like Bush has had. If Clinton had had the same support from the media that Bush has had, he'd have done amazing things for this country. In spite of the media, he had the world eating from his hand. His imperial arrogance in the way he "rules" is certainly borne, in large part, from his knowledge that the broadcast media is an operating unit of the Republican Party.

[mikelewis]

27. There is absolutely no doubt about that and they do make Elephant guns

I have spoken to a man by the name of John Schwartz. He's from the New York Times. We discussed the media's lack of coverage and how they have abandoned the American People. The journalists are still on our side. The media business is not. Even Seymour Hersh said this in his speech to the Berkley School of Journalism. I firmly believe that this is the reason Brokaw and Rather are leaving. These men have many years left on their careers and yet they are quitting. I also don't believe Dan Rather put that "letter" out as a mistake. I think he did it on purpose. I think he took a bullet for us to give credibility and exposure to the "Bloggers". I hadn't even heard the word Blogger before the Dan Rather scandal. Maybe I'm wrong but he's not an idiot nor can you question his integrity. He hasn't always made the best calls but he is a seasoned newsman now. He made that call for a reason and it surely wasn't to help the media. The only people who benefited from this faux pas was the Bloggers. Maybe this was unintentional but it was a result. I think he took a bullet for us and it will take a lot of convincing to get me to change this point of view. So Dan, if you happen to stumble across this message. "Thanks man".

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

32. I think he was set-up.

The paper became the issue, not the content of the information. It was rather brilliant move of Rove to use CBS to bite on them, then attack the autheticity in a concerted effort. I'm ambivalent about the role broadcast media has played...by their nature, they tend to be topical and limited in their 1/2 hr nightly recap. The real damage has been caused by the cable news networks who have become openly biased in their presentation and analysis of the news. They failed in 2000, on 9/11, on the run-up to Iraq, and finally in this election. I've noticed that it has gotten more systematically blatent over time. I think the apex of my disgust was on election night and the days following....their scripted performance and contorted analysis was beyond the boundry of responsible reporting/journalism ....they showed their true political colors. It's my fervant hope that I get to watch Hardball with Buchanon, Silver, Scarborough, and Tweety have another roundtable as they confront the new reality of a Kerry/Edwards win. That will be a show worth taping for posterity.

Interesting that you've just recently found the bloggosphere. There are some great sites (dkos, Eschaton, uggabugga, Hullabaloo, Seeing the Forrest, Talking Points, Alterman, etc.) Frankly, the internet has saved my sanity and I've never been more informed, faster than I've been since getting hooked in a few years back. The internet is revolutionizing the whole concept of news gathering / dissemination / analysis.....I don't bother with newspapers or magaznes because the information is outdated by the time I get around to reading them. The internet (Al Gore's invention :-) ) is our saving grace. Bet the Republicans wish that they could revisit votes on enabling the creation of the networks.

[mikelewis]

33. I had my head firmly up my ass for 33 years. What can I say? LOL

[mikelewis]

37. I don't believe they suckered Dan Rather...

I can't believe that a man who has followed politics in this country for the past few decades would get suckered so easily. No matter how much zeal he had in exposing this story, I can't see him agreeing to put out a letter he knew to be false. He did know it was false. His own staff told him it was false. He did it anyway. Why?

Also, you have to admit that the Blogosphere gained a lot of noteriety. I am an avid net user. I do a lot of research on the net and until this story broke, I had never heard the word blogger before. That word was spread almost as much as "Embedded" was in the war. It was sold and sold hard. Why? Couldn't they have just said citizens? People? Viewers? No, they said Bloggers. The media is a key component in the Spiral of Silence that has gripped this country. I don't think many of them like being in this position. I know they are smarter than me. I know when they put out a catch phrase they are trying to sell me something. I bit and here I am. This is because of Dan Rather. So if I aggravate you, now or in the future, blame Dan, LOL.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

52. Dan's out for Dan, I think.

A reckless move? Or a limited hangout to discredit the whole AWOL line of questioning? Dan got his career start reporting the Kennedy assassination.....who knows what motivates Dan?

BTW = Blog is short for web log It does sound rather unprofessional in a context of labeling them as a group....I visualize a bunch of overweight people eating Cheetos, typing away madly on their PCs.

[Sparkle]

28. One question:

Why in the hell do you fault Clinton for the Oklahoma City bombing?

[mikelewis]

30. Look up General Partin in Yahoo Search and read his report to Congress

Then read about Officer Terrance Yeaky

Then read about how many FBI agents were killed in the Murray Building even though this was their headquarters in Oklahoma.

In Oklahoma, they buried a lie, much like they are trying to do with 9/11 and this vote.

You can plainly see that the media is not being honest with us. What makes you think this is a new phenomenon? I'm a believer in the old saying, "the buck stops here". Clinton was in charge. That is where that Buck stops.

Until about 8 months ago, I wouldn't have believed any of this. In fact, I would have voted for Bush. But Abu Ghraib changed all that. I was an MP and I know those soldiers didn't act without orders. That bothered me and as I began to look deeper into this story, other stories began to arise. I began to question a lot of things. No one gets a free ride any longer. I don't care if they're Democrat or Republican. If they're crooked, I'm gonna find out how. I will not suffer this foolishness any longer. The vote is a way that I can fight back and I will fight back. These lies that we have been sold have lost their luster in my eyes and I will no longer accept anything people in power say without question.

I urge you. Take a second look at Oklahoma. I will not slant your perception on this issue and this is not the forum in which I would try. Just do your own homework. The answers are out there.

Remember the man who killed himself at Ground Zero after the election. Ask yourself this, why would a man, who was set to be married, had a great job, and a good family, drive past Washington D.C. from Atlanta and continue on to New York to commit suicide and not leave a note? Why wouldn't he blow his brains out in front of the White House? Do you buy this story? Obviously, America does. I know differently. There is a movement in America called the Truth Movement. It is made up of people like me who are tired of the lies. When we see bullshit like this election, we start making waves. We crunch numbers and test theories. We accept when we are wrong and admit it. This is not a labor of pride. It's a fight, pride comes later. We believe in America and we believe in justice for all. All that B.S. that they sold us in high school about how great we are, we believe it. We believe that all men are equal, no matter their wealth or position and if they commit crimes, we will hold them to it.

But I am not here to convert anyone to this movement. My work in this area will not affect my work on this vote. Though they are related this is a different forum. I just think that if you have questions about this election and questions about the media and questions about people in power, why would you think the questions stop here?

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

35. I'm glad you're posting here....welcome aboard.

Believe me, if there is one thing we are good at here, is that we question EVERYTHING. Take a look into the 9/11 forums, there's been a lot of threads that challenge the official story. Some threads are wacked, others are just plain thought provoking.

Nothing gets a free ride here. You'll find debate on every contraversy here.....and that's a good thing, I believe. It's like Darwin's theory of journalistic evolution....only the fittest analysis survives.

Regarding Murrah, I'm not sure we know the whole story yet. In retrospect, I think it was a mistake to kill McVeigh....who knows what could have been learned about that bombing over time?

[suziedemocrat]

54. I agree we need to hold ALL politicians to a higher standard.

And not let people get away with things simply because they are "Democrats" or "Republicans". However, even if both Bush and Clinton were guilty of the same fraud - I'd still prefer Clinton. I think lives of average Americans improved quite a lot under Clinton. I saw a CEO on CNBC complaining in late 1999 or early 2000 that the low unemployment had to end. He said you had to pay workers too much, give them too many benefits, etc. - it was AWFUL!!!! Awful for CEOs and Stockholders that is. Crime was going way down under Clinton. It's amazing how many people don't resort to crime when they have jobs, etc. Abortions were down. On and On! Now we have people who signed up for the National Guard to get some extra money by working one week-end a month and helping with the odd natural disaster losing their lives in an elective, Preemptive war against a brutal dictator who posed no threat to the U.S. what-so-ever. And, unlike the SCLM, I feel just as bad for the thousands of Iraqis who have lost their lives because of this war. People in Iraq are STARVING!!!! Because of the U.S!

Of course we want all politicians honest. But Bush is awful for many, many reasons. Election fraud is one.

[newyawker99]

60. Hi suziedemocrat!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[jamboi]

8. Clever article! n/t

[yardwork]

2. I agree that Black is castling

and I am intrigued by your whole chess analogy.

If Kerry thought he could win this election outright through a recount or court challenge, he would have done it.

I think that Kerry is well-aware of the voting problems, but doesn't have hard evidence. No smoking gun. No way to prove - in a political and media climate that is totally controlled by Black - beyond a reasonable doubt that Black stole this election.

So, White has retreated for now. Black wins this match but is severely hampered by its own incompetence, arrogance, and infighting.

What will the next match bring? Remember Pyrrus.

[Old and In the Way]

10. I'm thinking there's still special rules for the Republicans.

Like they are playing with 3 queens on a 3 dimensional board...(media, SCOTUS, and BFEE). This could be ultimately futile in getting the selection overturned. But it could destroy the Grandmasters ability to play the game going forward.

[mikelewis]

12. I don't think either of these parties are fighting for a Pyhrric victory

I think that the Republicans have been going in for the kill for the past few years. They have received strong economic support and the media is obviously in their corner.

If the Dem's don't fight now, they're done. The Dem's used to be better at mobilizing the votes, whether fraudulent or not but the Republicans have gained power in spite of all Democratic Party efforts. They have lost the House, the Senate, the White House and the soon the Supreme Court. They have no choice but to make a move now. If they don't, they're dead.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

22. I agree, the Republicans are "all in"

They are playing for the house. I think they know that they cannot lose the reins of power because it will be their end. We know all the criminal connections that cannot be investigated because of their majority control of the House. There is also that issue of 9/11 and the deaths of 3,000 Americans for which no one has been held accountable. And the obvious cooking of intel to start a war/occupation of an essentially unarmed country. War crimes is certainly not a stretch in discribing this administration's actions in Iraq.

So too, this is our "last stand"....we have to wake up that 50% who voted Bush without understanding the real consequences of their vote. The door may well close on our democracy if this recount fails.

[tridim]

3. Meanwhile BushCo plays checkers

and they keep screaming, "KING ME!". No such luck cheaters.

[prodigal_green]

5. LOL

Oh my god, I literally spit diet pepsi whe I read that.

[mirandapriestly]

6. Ha ha ha, that is a good one. nt

[mikelewis]

9. That was Awesome!!! and probably true lol

[NY lib NY]

4. I would just like to say...

AMAZING ANALOGY!!

[flyarm]

18. has anyone told you how brilliant you are lately??

that is brilliant!! what an incredible analogy!!!!!!!!!
and think how smart kerry is and how many brilliant men are behind him..it would only be fitting to play this like a chess game...yes the smart play chess, the brilliant win chess..and the patient win check mate!!
thank you!! fly

[tinfoil_beret]

13. It sound like good strategery to me. eom

[The Doctor.]

14. Well, it ain't a grandmaster match... but to fit the analogy...

It works very well.

Was that opening move King's pawn one or two?

[mikelewis]

39. The first move was Queens Pawn - Bev Harris - BBV "The White Pawn"

[The Doctor.]

43. Sorry to nitpick...

(But the King's bishop could not have moved if the Queen's pawn was the only other white piece deployed....)

- Just being D.A.

Your piece is excellent... (just switch pawns for logistics...)

;)

[mikelewis]

46. lol... I take certain liberties as I usually play against my 10 yr old ;)

[The Doctor.]

56. I too have a ten year old who plays...

So I take those same liberties.

Once I wasn't paying attention, I had an attack going on where I ran his knight out of the exchange, unknowingly sending it to bear on 6 (king's bishop's home). I had just forked his queen and rook with my knight (just being arrogant) and missed the diagonal I left open for his Queen to 6.

He saw it and said - "hey, if I do this it's check right?"
(never tipping my hand) "so do you want to do that?"

He did do it, he said 'check'. I said no it's not - look again.

His eyes went all wide, "checkmate?"

"That's right kid."
I got careless. So I told him if he beats me again in the next year I'll buy him any game system he wants.

He ain't gettin' one... I guarantee it. I learned my lesson.

:D

I'm glad to know people still teach their own kids - you're a good dad.

[Democrat Dragon]

19. Doncha think

That maybe two Democrats where playing chess and then that's how they came up with this strategy they are using now?

[mikelewis]

24. You know, I thought about that for a long while...

I worried about John Kerry and his connection with what's happened to our country but I haven't been able to find anything that even remotely links him to anything bad.

That should be worrisome in itself but I like Kerry. I don't particularly trust him and that's to be expected but I don't think he's crooked. I think the Dem's put a Boy Scout up for public auction and that gives me more reason to think that there is a real plan for this election investigation. The odd thing is the lack of fraud on the Democrat side. I can't think of any election where a Democrat hasn't cooked the books in one way or the other. This one looks like a straight up run with a clean candidate. This is not the MO of the Democratic Party. They're as crooked as a new river and this deviation makes me think that they are making a play. It used to be that the best vote rigger won. The Dem's didn't play this time, why? There were many indications that a Dem fix was in. Remember Dick Tracy and Mary Poppins registered by ACT? Yet, if they fixed anything, it sure went against them. I guess you could hypothesize that they fixed it "for" Bush only to fuck him, which would be AWESOME!!!! but I don't think so. That feels wrong somehow. I think they let him fix it and they are going to nail him for it.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

25. If Clinton/Hamilton had supported Kerry in his BCCI investigations

we'd have killed the beast 15 years ago. Yeah, that Lee Hamilton, co-chair of the 9/11 Ommission.

Kerry is numero uno threat to these people....he knows where all the bodies are buried.

[texpatriot2004]

26. Or Reagan for that matter, he could have as well...n/t

[texpatriot2004]

29. I hope they kill this "Repub" party

I don't know about your chess game. I don't think they want the glibs to replace the GOP. Did I misunderstand your last point there? Anyway, I hope that this sorry excuse for a Rep party will be killed, preferably by sensible Republicans who aren't Nazi like followers. There party has been infiltrated, or rather infected, by a parasite (the neocons) which is feeding of the host quite well I'd say. I should hope that this version of that party is destroyed so that the real GOP may stand up.

[mikelewis]

31. I agree, the Repubs have been hijacked but you have to admit...

the Glibs are going to benefit from this. No matter how this plays out, these parties will gain from these actions. I don't think they'll be in a position to replace the Repubs any time soon but the seeds are being sown for stronger third parties. Nader is being helped by the Repubs and the Glibs are allied with the Dems. These days make odd bed fellows.

[texpatriot2004]

34. I see, you have a point n/t

[Old and In the Way]

36. If our political wars become the competing agendas betweens Dem and Green,

we've won.

:-)

[mikelewis]

38. Heaven forbid LOL

I somehow think a completely left leaning country would fall over. Now, the Libertarians... I like the Libertarians. They're strong on personal freedom and think the Government should butt out of everything unless it is defending property rights. That would be some interesting debates. I could just see a debate between Kerry and Bardninik...

Kerry: We need to save Social Security.

Bardinick: And the best way to defend the security of the society is to quit spending the people's money. Income tax is unconstitutional, social security tax is unconstitutional. The government is to get its' operating funds from taxes on exports not from the hard work of its citizens.

Kerry: So you hate old people?

Bardinick: You're momma!


They then begin to throw thier pens and storm off the stage. Ahhh, dare to dream.

[Old and In the Way]

40. Check this site out...........

Now if this isn't an amalgam of every possible political party, I have no idea what could be.

Interesting....and scary.

http://www.falconistparty.us/

[mikelewis]

41. Yeah... Did you read the 9/11 Blog Yikes!

I'm the last person to suggest policy but a knee-jerk non-ivestigative agenda where we immediately go on the war path... wait, that's what we got. Oh shit!!!!

The only difference is that they believe that we were attacked by a diabolical mastermind who used inept pilots who somehow stymied our airforce, destroyed 4 buildings with 3 planes and somehow defied the laws of gravity not to mention somehow made jet fuel burn hotter than 1800 degrees. I guess if I believed that then I would have suggested the same thing. The good thing about Bush and his knee-jerk non-investigative reaction, he knew who did it.

I somehow think this party needs a little work. I really don't like the Minister of... I have never been a fan of Ministers of Anything. Sounds a bit Orwellian. I really like the Libetarians, they have a lot of good ideas and thier platform is focused and clear. I believe a good many people will be moving to the Libertarian Party. Maybe not but it would be nice.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

42. All I want is to see a new 9/11 commission.

With Bush under oath, in public, and a Ken Starr-like Democratic lawyer asking him questions. And Bush repeating over and over, "I invoke the 5th Amendment...."

[mikelewis]

45. I want to see him removed from office by vote fraud...

the co-conspirators in the plot silently terminated through a series of odd un-explained and under-reported accidents. I want Silverstein to return the $7 billion he was "awarded". I want the $84 billion in gold to be "found" in the excavation of the World Trade Center and I want to find the easiest and least expensive way that we can slip out of Iraq without causing any more civilian or military deaths and providing a stable and free environment for them to decide thier own future. I would like the management of corporations like Halliburton, Bletch, L3, Diebold et al to retire and suddenly experience an overwhelming desire to contribute a large portion of thier assests to govermental aid programs, quietly with little to no media attention. I would like the support withdrawn from the KLA, SLA and the ALA in Yugoslavia and a new cooperation in combating the drug feilds in Afghanistan and Columbia through which these three organizations are funneling billions of dollars in illegal drugs to Europe. I would like to see support for intenational terrorist groups to miraculously vanish. I would like the assests of the Saudi Royal Family in the U.S. to dissappear in a computer "Glitch" and all foreign aid packages suspended until our current deficit is eliminated. I would like all known foreign spies to be asked to kindly leave. I would like the Patriot Act to die a quiet death and all records illegally obtained to get lost in an unexplained fire. I would like a new voting system that allows for a fair an open election that also has video auditing of all BOE's, to be paid for by donations from "interested" parties. I would like John Kerry to live up to the stipulations that he laid out in his 260 page plan for America. Since I am used to getting what I want, I think that this is doable. The alternative is many treason, conspiracy and murder charges, huge public scandals and international instability. I like my options better. I think the people who are on the bad end of this deal should take the first plan. It's the honorable way out. I somehow doubt that they will take the olive branch and we're gonna have to do it the hard way but that's their problem. America will survive. I have delievered my laundry list to these parties already and so far there has been no response. I had hope that we could deal with this like gentlemen but they are a proud lot after all. So be it. We have our forces and they have theirs, the time is rapidly approaching that we will enter our own chess game. I had hoped that it wouldn't come to this but they are ruled by greed. It's a powerful emotion. But so is vengeance.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Sideways]

47. Michael I'm Sitting Here Bawling Like A Baby

Because you just wrote my Christmas Wish List....the same wish list I've had for too many years....and I've been feeling really sad because Santa and God seem to be laughing at my list...but you get it....WELCOME to DU this is a great thread...you have a beautiful mind.....

[mikelewis]

53. Oh trust me, Bush was right about one thing, Freedom is on the march

There is a large force amassed against him. As strong as this fight is for vote fraud, the truth movement is ten times bigger and more powerful. The hope is that we can take him down gently. Many others want him to be taken down hard. The people in charge seem to think the gentle approach is avisable but the hardliners are gaining momentum.

We have our own media, our own intelligence services, our own chain of command. We are present in every level of government. Don't for a second think that there are those of us that won't take a bullet for America. Many already have. Of course we can still lose but it's not a thought I like to entertain too often.

Right now we are simply spreading the word and gaining popular support. Did you hear about the millionaire who had a national commercial campaign drawing attention to WTC 7 and the pentagon? Do you think he'd do that if he he didn't know that he had support? He paid for a zogby poll in New York that showed half the people in New York believe there was a cover-up to some degree. Later, CNN did another poll of online people, 89% believe that there was a cover up of some degree. These people are going down, that is a promise. It just takes time and patience. The trick is going to be doing it in such a way that causes the least bit of harm to America and the world. That is going to be a huge trick but it's doable.

Very few events in history have drawn together such an array of forces as has been pulled together in the past three years. 9/11 gave us one unexpected gift, it gave us a reminder of who we are. On 9/12, the facade dropped away for a while and we were a country united. You could talk to any stranger and it didn't matter what his politics, religion, color or creed. The pride fell away for a moment and in that brief space, while we caught our breath, a country was reunited. That hasn't left, it's been diluted by a constant fear campaign but those of us who are unafraid have united in one single cause, the destruction of tyrrany and injustice. Keep in mind, this is not a party issue as both parties have people involved and they will be held accountable. The people who perpetrated this act will pay, it's basically thier decision on how much of a fight they want to put up. The die has been cast and for many of us, there is no going back.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis

[Old and In the Way]

50. I like the way you think.

:-)

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55. Me Too I Nominated This For Home Page

All DU should read this and welcome Michael he is a rare and wonderful addition.

[flyarm]

57. RE" ALL I WANT IS TO SEE A NEW 9/11 COMMISSION

oooooooohhhhhhhh believe me that is why i fought so hard to see bush out and kerry in!!! but i will go further..i want to see bush in an orange suit with shackles on his ankles being a dead man walking!!

from a 33 yr american airlines just retired flight attendant..2001 flight attendant of the year AA new york base!!

did nay of you know that jeb signed an executive order in fla for marsahll law 4 days before 9/11??

what did jeb know that i wasn't warned of when i took off out on ewr the morning of 9/11??

EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 2001-261 This is the order he signed on 9-07

http://sun6.dms.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/orders/2001/september/eo2001-261-09-07-01.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25051

[flyarm]

58. addition to my last post!!

ohhh ..i was a delegate to the dem convention and i took copies of this ( jeb signing executive order to put marshall law into fla state law) to the floor of the convention, and i gave the copies to Al Franken and told him about it..he laughed!! yes he laughed !!..i am no longer a fan of Franken!!

my co-workers died on 9/11..i dont find anything regarding 9/11 funny!!

i grew up in middletown n.j. we lost 260 people on 9/11 ..i don't find that a laughing matter..
i lived in town next to middletown nj we lost 70 people on 9/11 ..i dont find that funny either Mr Franken!! ( small nj town, my son graduated h.s. with 114 kids..we lost 70!!)

[Old and In the Way]

59. I understand your paint.....no justice for 3000 innocent Americans

It's so obvious that this Ommission was DOA when Kean and Hamilton were put in charge. The fix was in.

In August of '01 I flew AA175 out of Boston to LA.....

[texpatriot2004]

44. kick

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48. Kick

This is an excellent thread. I've read it twice :kick:

[nashville_brook]

49. i love your analogy, with so much to lose

i can totally understand "protecting the queen" like we are. i think it makes total sense.

i would add that Kerry is very experienced in moving the chess-men on the board and has been burned (as when he went down to Central America early in his career.) he didn't protect his chess-men then, and i think he's a conservative "player" b/c he has lost before and knows how much there is to lose.

[myschkin]

51. kerry is a good player

A wonderful analogy, thank you, Mike. In a chess game you have to protect (or hide) the king - now that's what's happening... The pawns are very important...

I wonder who will first "open" up...