Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Kerry wanted Voters to handle legal process not Candidates?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:26 AM
Original message
Kerry wanted Voters to handle legal process not Candidates?
From his concession speech:

"In America it is vital that every vote count, and that every vote be counted. But the outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal process. "

Votes have to be certified before they can be challenged so if Kerry is waiting maybe December 6th is the date.

It has not been a protracted legal process that he created but a short process that we citizens are doing now to protect our right to vote in our great democracy and the integrity of the election.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:28 AM
Response to Original message
1. Oh puhleezee... spare me ....
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 12:29 AM by VivaKerry
spare me more of the "how can we read between the lines of kerry's concession speech"!!!

Not to come down on you... but, jesus christ, the guy DUCKED OUT. There is no message to be revealed with our secret decoder rings!!!

He left. The only question is: What are WE, the people, going to do about the vote?

Sorry, really not trying to offend you. I just wish we could get over the guy who abandoned us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. On the Other Hand.
We sat on our collective asses while Al Gore and his lawyers tried to contest Florida. We listened to the Republican corporate media incessantly tell us what a "sore loserman" he was to do it.

By the time SCOTUS gave it to Bush, we were all conditioned to accept the defeat without so much as a whimper.

Seems to me that Kerry's early exit opened the door to a lot of grassroots activism that will snowball with his re-entry back into the ring. He's forced us to be co-owners in this fight. And he's kept the media out of the dialogue. Too late for the media to play the same loserman tune, because the story is evolving into a voter fraWd issue.

If he chickened out, why would he now decide to raise expectations by jumping back in? Seems he's gotten a good look at the evidence and he likes what he sees.

Of course, if he does fold again, it'll be the end of his career. I gotta believe he's all in now to the bitter (or sweet) end.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. We sure did sit on our collective asses during election 2000...
God... I can't even believe MY thinking then. I actually thought, "gee, jeb bush wouldn't compromise his integrity by getting involved to influence the vote for his brother." Wow, incredible naivite on my part. I was delusional about the forces that are about us.


I just can't make the jump from "kerry bowed out to ALLOW us to fight for our rights". It doesn't follow. though, I hope you are right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shalom Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #1
6. Kerry Worked His Ass Off, and got more votes than Bush
He won the election.
Bush stole it.
We helped Kerry get it back.

eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:30 AM
Response to Original message
2. That's what he said and he sure hasn't tried to stop it...
in fact he's gently promoted it.

Jackson campaigned for Kerry and they are telling a story.

Who said Democrats don't have a narritive.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:34 AM
Response to Original message
3. One problem with your theory
It's only the CANDIDATES who can sue or ask for recounts -- at least in most states and probably all. They're the only ones with "legal standing."

Being an attorney himself and someone who's run for office a bunch of times, I think Kerry is very well aware of that. And now you are too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:35 AM
Response to Original message
4. Well, he sure forgot to tell us that when he was asking for
money, in case recounts were needed.
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 01:03 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC