I know theres a "Sink the BFEE" war room (not DU!). It may not have a sign

[henslee]

on the door or any official employees. It may only be a loose connection of like-minded people, some offical, some not. But there is definitely an effort congealing to sink these hijackers of democracy. The BFEE is way too sloppy, too cocky and too dangerous to not leave their flank exposed. There are too many personel changes going on to keep a lid on things.

And there are more than enough leads, stories, witnesses, etc. to sift through, to ensure something will stick to the wall. And... there is too much bad blood, and too many good, powerful and pissed people not to pursue it. Ying always has its yang.

And to be clear, this is not about making JK the president. It is about exposing this Admn. Something, I think JK would be quite satisfied with and which could possibly lead to a run in 2008.

But this BFEE investigation must be done methodically and thoroughly and in its own time. And I am sure it will be -- with many internet activists doing much of the advance work/ the sifting. This is just like the SETI project only instead of harnassing the power of millions of computers to analyze radiowaves, a million brains are being harnassed through their empirical discussions. (Realistically, there are probably only about 100,000 brains worth harnassing but the enthusiastic well-intentioned, the genuine numb skulls come with the deal and in a way, force the othes to speak in laymans terms, always a good thing)

There is no way the grass roots efforts of millions of people donating millions of dollars and hours, having bake sales, getting out the vote, doing concert tours, exhausting personal fortunes do not just fall by the wayside overnight. No way. And politicians will not be foolish enough to seek the "capital" to be gained by embracing their wishes. The situation in the Ukraine only emphasizes the voterfraud situation stateside. And while it may not officaly be voterfraud that sinks these folks, it will be the overwhelming sense of illegitimacy they have.

Keep the pressure on good people. Fasten your safety belt, Crashcart.

[ewagner]

1. Pincer Movement is needed

That is, (IIRC) attack on two fronts...

Expose the BFEE crimes, AND,

convince as many from the other sie that Dubya is as evil as he really is....get them to come to our side.

[henslee]

3. I was reading Stanley Crouch piece on why MLK was such an effective

leader and he said it was the ability to get outsiders to identify/relate to your cause is the key -- to make them see that your fight is their fight. I think this is true. (the book is: TALES FROM A HANGING JUDGE)

And yes it must a calculated thing. But what pressure points achieve the attack on your second front? No jobs and shitty healthcare should have done the trick. Corporate entitlement and the assult on the environment should have been enogh.

[ewagner]

4. Right now

I have no answer you give you but I have been collecting my thoughts on the subject in personal journals in hopes of focusing the message. My intent (once the "eureka moment" arrives) is to start a campaign (locally at first and also on the web) to start getting the message out. My ramblings have started to take a path toward a "unifying vision" of America.

The greatest truth in your post was that we have to let those who presently support Bushco that our struggle is their struggle and ask them to join us.....

[mirandapriestly]

2. I would be satisfied to see the BFEE sunk for any of their crimes

a thorough investigation of 9-11 would be a very tasty accompaniment to election fraud. If only people would pay attention, there is enough to bring them down as is, IMHO