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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:48 PM
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Antbody else watching the series' finale of Battlestar Galactica tonight?
Should be pretty awesome... I'm hyped up for it!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:57 PM
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1. Recording it! I have to be sure I don't read any spoilers. Please don't put
any in the subject line.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:49 PM
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2. It was awesome!
No spoilers... but in the sci-fi section thread I was right.:D
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:51 PM
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3. No spoilers show was worth every minute except for the inane commercials
I know it is a sad admission for me but there were times when I had tears in my eyes.

Lots of action, lots of pathos, sort of maybe a happy ending, kind of, I guess.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:44 AM
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4. And the verdict on Gaius Baltar is...
to be discussed after everyone has seen the show.

Not sure I would have made the same choices.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:08 PM
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7. Gaius' fate is the same as that of Caprica 6 (spoilers, obviously)
Tool of the Gods (or Seraph, as the case may be).

BTW, did anyone else notice the retro toasters fighting for Cavil in the last episode?

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:41 AM
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8. Yes, and I also liked the classic toaster in the glass case
"on display" on the bridge. :D
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:16 AM
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5. wow... I am stunned.
I feel like I just read the last page of a really good book...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:15 AM
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6. I was pretty satisfied with the ending
Actually they killed a lot less of the main characters than I thought they would. And all I know is someone better make a series/movie about the "head" people. I want to meet their boss.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:33 PM
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9. It was quite disappointing.
First off, it's SCIENCE fiction. Not fantasy/mythology/legend.

SPOILERS



















Didn't explain where Thrace got the code. Why did Cavil off himself? God = stupid dues ex machina.

They dropped the ball at the one-yard line.

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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:26 AM
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10. Yeah but it was in there from season 1
It's not like they never mentioned it and then just threw it in there. From day 1 they had visions directing Baltar (and as we saw in late season 2 Caprica-6 as well). Visions that in most cases helped humanity and Baltar (destroy the Olympic Carrier, point to where the tillium is, and so on and so forth). From the get go, even though he started out thinking he was just simply crazy, he was being prodded by 'God'.

Caprica-6 the same, as in the episode downloaded, was prodded by her vision of Baltar which eventually led to the Cylon schism, and the 3 models rebelling and joining the human fleet.

Then flop on top of that all the gods stuff from kobol, the temple of the five to the one who must remain unnamed, etc, etc, etc. God was always a big part of the show. God or Gods or Angels or whatever.

The five, and Thrace all got the music and the code from "God". She was an "angel" as were the visions of baltar and six and who knows what else.

I agree though about Cavil offing himself. I didn't get that.

On the whole though I think it tied things up well. Not all the questions were answered, but I don't think it outright contradicted anything either.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:27 PM
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11. I'm going to disagree with you (spoilers)
"Science fiction" doesn't mean that the story should solely adhere to the concrete, the scientific. If that were the case, we'd have to also damn Heinlein, Clarke, et al. The question of superior forces and the nature of God has always been a part of science fiction.

I also disagree that the show fell to the "deus ex machina" concept to wrap everything up. Traditionally, a "deus ex machina" resolution was employed in a play when characters on two sides of a conflict could not resolve their differences. Then a god would literally descend from the "heavens" on a machine/cloud and sort everything out with just a few directives. I don't believe that happened here--in BSG, the characters themselves were working out their issues, albeit with guidance from "god" or "angels" or whatever you want to call the superior force working in their lives--and didn't rely on a god stepping in to fix everything at the last minute.

As for the specifics, the creators of the show explained both Kara's knowledge of the code and Cavil's suicide in an interview here (http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2009/03/battlestar_galactica_ronald_d.html).

Excerpt:

(On why Cavil killed himself)

Moore: Cavil killing himself came from Dean Stockwell, to be honest. As scripted, in that climactic battle in CIC, Tigh was going to grab Cavil and fling him over the edge of the upper level, and he was going to fall to his death. Dean called me himself and said, "I just really think that in that moment, Cavil would realize the jig is up and it's all hopeless and just put a gun in his mouth and shoot himself." And I just said, "Okay."

(On the history of "All Along the Watchtower" in the "Galactica" universe)

Moore: The notion is that the music, the lyrics, the composition is something divine, it's eternal. It's something that lives in the collective unconscious of the show, it's a musical theme that repeats itself. It crops up in unexpected places, and people hear it, or pluck it out of the ether. It's sort of a connection of the divine and the mortal -- music is something that people literally catch out of the air... Here is a song that transcends many different aeons and cultures across the star, and was reinvented by one Mr. Bob Dylan.

Eick: It was a simple way to communicate the idea clearly that this is not the future. This is the story of a culture that gave birth to ours. There was an episode in season one in which Helo and Sharon are running for their lives and they hole up in a diner, and there's a Cylon centurion cornering them, and for the longest time we planned to have an old jukebox in the diner that would play, "Yesterday," or whatever we could afford.

Moore: Probably not "Yesterday."

Eick: Okay, something from The Guess Who. I think we felt it was too soon, and would confuse things. It would be so non-specific that people would just be thrown by it. But we were thinking about it that far back, that music would be a great way to tell the audience about the cyclical theme... All the colloquialisms and slang that you hear, and how people interrelate... we get that from them, not the other way around.


Hope that helps. :hi:



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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:27 PM
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12. Earth to Zhade! Earth to Zhade!
I'm not sure if you noticed, but this has been "science fantasy" (i.e. fantasy story with spaceships and rayguns) from season one on. The Magic Baby Blood should have been a big clue.

Hell, most of what passes for science fiction these days is really "science fantasy" (I blame George Lucas for that).

Anyway, you should have known this was a fantasy story long before the finale. I (grumblingly) accepted that long ago. The resolution wasn't entirely satisfactory, but all in all they made the right decision to concentrate on characters rather than filling in all the plot holes they piled up over the last 4 years.
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