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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:48 AM
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The Sacred Land Of Edom At Al Sarah Mountain Range "Seir"
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The Sacred Land Of Edom At Al Sarah Mountain Range "Seir"


Edom was an ancient Bedouin Kingdom in the north-east of the Sinai wilderness, in what are now parts of Sharah mountains in southern Jordan.

The Hebrew name for the Sharah mountains was Seir. This is known in the Bible which repeatedly refers to the Edomites inhabiting Seir. The Old Testament often links God with this particular mountain range. The prophet Isaiah, for instance, tells us that when God speaks to him, "he calleth to me out of Seir" (Isaiah 21:11). One particular mountain in the range is specifically referred to as Mount Seir. The prophet Ezekiel, for instance, tells his followers to "set thy face against Mount Seir' (Ezekiel 35:20. A particular passage leaves us with little doubt that God was thought to reside there. In Judges 5:4-5, the Judge Deborah (who is Edomite) prays to God:

"Lord, when thou wentest out of Seir, when thou marchedst out of the field of Edom, the earth trembled, and the heavens dropped, the clouds also dropped water. The mountains melted from before the Lord, even that Sinai from before the Lord God of Isreal."

Deuteronomy 33:2 is even more specific. When Moses is dying he calls upon the Lord to bless the children of Israel and "the Lord came from Sinai and rose up from Seir unto them". This is evidence that God was thought to reside in Seir.

The Mountains of Seir "The photo is taken from top of the Sharah mountain range towards the rocky mountains of Edom Valley or Petra area. We know from Diodorus that the Edomite deity was called Dhu-Ash-Sharah by the Nabaeteans, which translate to Lord of the Sharah "mountain range'. Mount Aaron is in the center and Beidah area is in the far right". The land of midin could be seen from these mountain top in the valley below- This location fits with the Exodus account of Moses' exile in Midian , when Moses became a shepherd just like today's bedouins. Moses' father in-law was Jethro "Shuaieb" the Midianiate. The nomadic shepherds would lead their flocks of goats hundreds of miles around the course of the year, continually moving on to fresh grazing lands. According to Exodus 3:1, Moses' first discoveries on such a journey was the Mountain of Sinai.


Edom was originally an independent kingdom centered in the Sharah mountains in what is now southern Jordan . By the tenth century BC its borders stretched from the south of the Dead Sea down to the Red Sea. Much of this land formed the eastern part of what the Old Testament describes as the Sinai wilderness.

In the Book of Genesis, the Israelites descended from Abraham's grandson Jacob , and the Edomites descended from Abraham's other grandson Esau. According to Genesis 36:1-8, these two brothers were separated because Jacob tricked Esau out of his inheritance; Esau remained in Edom where his descendants became the Edomites, while Jacob moved to the Samarian mountains and his descendants became the Israelites. Archeology has shown that the ancient people of Edom were virtually indistinguishable from the Israelites. Samples of human remains found in the Samarian mountain and the Edom Sharah mountain, both dating to around 1700 BC, when the story of Jacob and Esau appears to be set, were sent for DNA tests to Waseda University in Tokyo-Japan in the year 2000. The results showed that both the Samarian and the Edomite remains were closely related, certainly from the same ethnic group.

According to Genesis 17, 7-8, God picked Abraham to be the father of his chosen nation.

"And i will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of canaan, for ever lasting possession: and i will be their God."

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http://acacialand.com/Edom.html

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:34 AM
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1. Thanks for the interesting history lesson
I know there is some controversy over where Mt. Sinai is-whether it is the mountain on the peninsula that attracts pilgrims from around the world, or whether it is a mountain farther to the east, which I believe is called something like Jubel Musa. Do you have any information about this?

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:39 AM
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2. Jebel or Gebel Musa
A google search will bring up a lot of info.

Biblical Mount Sinai or Mount Horeb
(Jebel or Gebel Musa)

Malachi 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel with the statutes and judgments .....

Exodus 24:16 And the glory of the LORD abode upon Mount Sinai and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud .....

Mount Sinai which is also known as Mount Horeb in the Bible is the mountain where God gave The Ten Commandments to Moses. Located in the Sinai Peninsula it was the scene of one of the greatest events in the Israelite people's Wilderness Journey and of all Bible History .....

Traditionally it has been assumed that Jebel Musa, a mighty red granite mountain in the Sinai Desert, is the actual Mount Sinai of the Bible. This sacred site soon became the goal of pilgrims from all over the world .....

Several other mountains in the Sinai and Negev deserts have been suggested. In one of the most barren and remote sections of the Negev Desert one such site was discovered by archaeologists in 1955 when the Jewish Italian Professor Emmanuel Anati first came to the area at Har Karkom .....

Regardless of whether Har Karkom was the Mount Sinai of the Bible it is a sacred mountain with many altars, ceremonial sites and evidence of cultic activity and was one of the prime high places of the Bronze Age in the Sinai Peninsula. A Palaeolithic shrine (30000 BC) indicates that the mountain was sacred from the earliest times. Bronze Age geoglyphs (large pebble drawings) on the mountain appear to be offerings to an invisible sky entity. The 75 square mile area around the site boasts 40000 petroglyphs — the largest concentration of rock art in the Negev — and 892 individual archaeological sites. The remains of a large Bronze Age campsite have been found in the mountain's foothills. Har Karkom still serves as a popular gathering place for nomads just as it has for millennia ......

To date nearly 1000 archaeological sites are known in the surveyed area. Many of them belong to the Late Chalcolithic, the Early Bronze Age and the beginning of the Middle Bronze Age; a period dating back to the fourth and the third millennia BC. As we shall see this sequence of periods displays persistent patterns of settlement and of material culture; although it includes the Late Chalcolithic it is referred to as BAC or Bronze Age Complex. The remains of numerous villages of this period are found in the valleys surrounding the mountain .....

http://ancientneareast.tripod.com/Mount_Har_Karkom.html
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:50 AM
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3. thanks
for the information and the spelling lesson!
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Brentos Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:41 PM
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4. Great Lesson!
Have you read the fantastic book, (I'm going off memory on the title) The 10 Tribes, 12 Plagues, and 2 Men who Were Moses? It is a fantastic book centering around what you are describing. While I don't buy everything in the book, it is extremely interesting!

Thanks,
-Brent
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