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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:36 AM Original message |
NBCs bullsh*t report on the Shroud of Turin. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. So nice of you to post this bitter screed on a day that means to |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Bitter? |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I guess that faith outweighs science to some. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Hadn't Thought of the Timing |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. You can't suspend the truth |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. It's relevant if NBC Today is perpetuating a fraud |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. screed? |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Some people just can't stand it that people have faith |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. And some people just can't stand it |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. I have enough college hours in sciences |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. According to Biblical Archaeology Review, November/December 1998 |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. I have never been much interested in any claims about the "Shroud" but |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. OP here |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Have you read Walter McCrone's work on the Shroud? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Can you get your tuition money back? |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Example of an unscientific statement: |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. BTW we are still waiting for that evidence. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Still waiting... chirp chirp n/t |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Nothing wrong with having faith |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. The Shroud has been proven to an |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. The classic equivocation of total bullshit with credible evidence. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. My "argument is made in almost exactly the same terms |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Yes by all means please explain exactly |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. If that is your position please 'clarify' the record |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. The "screed" was not about Easter. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. It was NBC that |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I've noted that some individuals take... |
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OlderButWiser (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. Did you catch your mistake? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. screed |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. You gotta believe! |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. Good weekend to sell that potato chip with Jesus face |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Or the Virgin Mary, for that matter |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. "no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. He probably looked like a Palestinian. Today, he'd be in Gitmo. (NT) |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
5. Oh, geez. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. I thought it was no more than 1400 years old. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. No more than 1400 years? Hmmm... |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. That's naughty. |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
11. it was known to be a fake back then |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
12. "You will never convince a snorer that he snores" -- Mark Twain |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
18. I thought it was Jacques deMolay's image ... |
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Waya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Nobody knows who it is......or why it is.......... |
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Submariner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
20. The shroud was just a medieval Handi-Wipe, whats the fuss all about? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-21-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
36. "... about forty shrouds .. have been alleged to be the true shroud of Jesus ..." |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
41. I like the theory that Leonardo DaVinci created it. nt |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
42. A big hint that the shroud is a fake is |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
46. Excellent post. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Thanks for the link. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
49. Are all atheists as bigoted as they are here or is that just a DU thing? |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Could you quote some of this "bigotry" |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I merely asked a question. Generally |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. No, you didn't merely ask a question. Do all believers post bullshit? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. There's a difference between ridiculing a group of people |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. your insinuation of false beliefs will never be proven or disproven this side of death. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Except if we look |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Actually, there are a multitude of stories about the shroud and |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. There are no "scientific findings" that show that the shroud is anything |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Actually there never has been a concensus on the age of the shroud. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Interesting you should bring up old Ray. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Then you know that he is not the only one to hold these views |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 07:03 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Of course he isn't. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Spoken like a true atheist. I may not agree with you , but I do |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Spoken like a true humanist, I'd say. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Actually , I am a harsh critic of the fundies and have been branded |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Oh yes, the extremist positions like "All torture is wrong." |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. There you go using that word again. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. "But, really that's not my point." - Actualy that IS the point. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. What? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. I don't have beliefs. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
79. 100% wrong. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. People failing to genuflect to your special beliefs is not bigotry. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. How do you know what I believe? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I know you believe there are atheist "fundamentalists" |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I thought you said you were offended by that term? why are you |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Why do you think I put it in quotes? |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Agnostic yes, atheist - maybe some of them. radical definitely. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
78. What are your grounds for that question? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
61. Yeah I saw that - I was thinking "Didn't they debunk this a few years back?" |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. A few years back? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. would be no bunk left |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Well yeah a few years back |
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