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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 04:15 AM Original message |
What the hell is going on with the catholic church? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. What are you talking about? Links? sources? |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The Pope just said that condoms make the African AIDS epidemic worse. Go figure. |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That, and then the thing with "washing machine vs. pill". And of course the 9 year old. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. well he does live in a 'castle' wearing his fine linens.... just like jesus would do. |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. When people change a church must also. Same as a country |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 06:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Is God a populist? |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I guess you are right in some ways but churches do have to change |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
26. This is what I get. |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. How does imprisonment, brutal torture, false confession, and conversion equal justice? |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. There are two parts to every trial. |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. The concept does not appear to originate from God |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. You probably realize |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Why not specifically state your favorite on justice, and I will state mine. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Cool. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. The God in the Holy Bilble is not about justice. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. So man, |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. "greater than God?" |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I'm not going to engage in a line item debate. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. "I'm not going to engage in a line item debate." |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I didn't insult you. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I don't understand why you are upset. I don't understand your complaint. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. It's my feeling |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. "your education didn't include a lot of paragraph writing. Is that correct?" |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-23-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. LOL |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. A church ought to be modern enough to be effective |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Unfortunately, catholic teachings include the infallibilty of the pope. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Yes. The infallibility card gets played, even when the Pope says condoms |
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willing dwarf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 06:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Infallablity is a red herring |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 06:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I think it is the Vatican who is undermined by referential infallibility. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Did you not read the last poster |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I completely understand the distinction in Church doctrine and reassert |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. That's not completely true. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Not in everything. nt |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. I think part of the problem is that |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Nicely put, and quite a closer reflection of the tenets of the ministry of |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Yes, absolutely vision-impaired |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Agree. It's similar in government, too, at least in one respect, that we are |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Well, my new church does, and that's a good thing |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. No, you are not thinking correctly about the church: Their whole thing is |
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willing dwarf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
11. Ratzinger is falling back on the stuff he knows |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
17. Just the pope dusting off a few WWII era demonization techniques. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
18. They are going after my governor |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
19. kind of like its turning into Opus Dei |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
20. Tradition |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
21. Ugh. I wish a world leader had the cojones to stand up to the Pope. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
22. as a reformed catholic, they are irrelevant in my world...they are guilt mongers |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
23. The Church has been into oppressing women and corraling the sexual energy of |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
24. The 'church' has been run by opportunistic power hungry thugs since |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. Well the current pope is every bit as ultra-conservative |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
38. How is one billion a diminishing number? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. A number of the sources note that there are indeed a whole bunch of |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. His Eminence has been on the crazy side lately. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-22-09 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
44. Your question is awfully broad |
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