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Help_I_Live_In_Idaho Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 01:28 PM
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Missing Link Found- You are a primate.
I just saw and excellent program on a 47 million year old primate that has been found intact in an extinct volcanic lake in Germany.It is called "The Link." It verifies what we have known for 150 years. That humans are nothing more than an advanced primate. This 47 million year old Lemur like (but really and anthropoid) illustrates where human primate evolutionary history began it's first transition to the species that led directly to human development It has human fingernails, 32 teeth opposable thumbs and forward setting eyes like humans. Saw it on the history international.

We can regard this as part our creation story - and more miraculous than any mythology or theology.
You dig? I do.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 01:33 PM
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1. i watched that. it was fascinating how they determined things
that differentiated it from a lemur. because it looked like a lemur.
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Help_I_Live_In_Idaho Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 01:36 PM
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2. Great how they tried to disprove it was a human ansestor and couldn't
Yeah baby.
;)
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 01:42 PM
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3. For the Cretinists, every filled-in 'link' simply creates 2 more.
:eyes:

But in any case, I'd rather be the descendant of a primate than of a hunk of dirt.
:D
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Help_I_Live_In_Idaho Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 02:11 PM
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6. There are earlier links
It all started with mud, water, nitrogen, oxygen, ammonia and a lot of other mud from comets, then lightning, then single cell animals - virus, fish. etc. Then we have a fish with toes and fins that walked out of the ocean hundreds of millions of years ago. We have fossils and footprints in rock. But let's go lower.Mud is too grandiose for humans. - try virus. Take a look at how we consume everything - like a virus or a cancer cell.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 02:04 PM
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4. Oh no.
Its a transitional fossil! I thought those didn't exist ..:eyes:
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Help_I_Live_In_Idaho Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 02:12 PM
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7. Wow : an alturist...LOL nt
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 02:07 PM
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5. After working at a primate sanctuary for almost 4yrs, I have no doubt that we're related.
The baby gibbon I took care of was just like any other baby. She drank a bottle, sucked her thumb, bonded with us, etc. Best job I ever had.
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Help_I_Live_In_Idaho Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 02:13 PM
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8. Thats wonderful...
Now were talking about theology - LOL
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:07 PM
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9. i LOVE this! i think it's the right and proper way to state Darwin's case: we ARE apes. period.
it's a far more elegant statement of fact than to say we "evolved from" apes. i think it might provide a "third way" in the whole morass of the "evolution debate." there is no debate once you grok this. like you say, i can see too, how this might satisfy the creationist faithful. it is indeed very miraculous and huge and mysterious to ponder that our connection to the animals of this planet is this much well defined. we are not separate. we are equal. we are apes.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:50 AM
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10. Another missing link found in Spain
Click the link and read the 2 page article

"Human"-Faced Missing Link Found in Spain?

Move over Ida—you're last month's news. There's a new (purported) "missing link" in town.

An 11.9-million-year-old fossil ape species with an unusually flat, "surprisingly human" face has been found in Spain. The discovery suggests humans' ape ancestors split from primitive apes in Europe, not Africa—the so-called cradle of humanity—a new study says.

The species, Anoiapithecus brevirostris, may also represent the last known common ancestor of humans and living great apes—including orangutans, gorillas, and chimpanzees—researchers say.

"With this fossil, our opinion is that the origin of our family very probably took place in the Mediterranean region," said study leader Salvador Moyà-Solà of the Catalan Institute of Paleontology in Barcelona.

"Surprisingly Human"


National Geographic





I wish they wouldn’t use the term 'missing link', it makes a lot of people think in terms of a 'chain' where one of the links is missing and it gives the anti-evolution fundies a line of attack ... "where's the missing links, huh huh?", there really aren’t any. Or, they would be so EXTREEMLY rare when you think of all the veriety of species Throughout earths history. It's best to think of evolution of species in terms of a tree, where the tree branches off along the trunk, and the branches branch off, and then the branches of the branches branch off etc..In a humongous tree of life, with billions of branches and the original life form at it's base. These early primates for example are related to modern humans somehow, there's no doubt about it, all living things are related, but without more fossils, we cant say whether or not this species might have branched off from our common ancestors, and developed, then branched off again and become extinct, or if it was something that was in a direct line of decent. There aren’t enough fossils to say for sure where these early primates fit into our evolutionary ancestral tree. my 2 cents.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 04:56 PM
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11. One of dozens. And I've been a primate all my life.
Still - cool news though.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 02:41 PM
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12. Humans are prmates? This is hardly news, even to most religious people
:shrug:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:00 PM
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13. The classification of humans as primates seems already to occur in Linnæus' Systema naturæ (1758)
Linnæus was the son of a Lutheran pastor; the Latin text begins with a dedication:

O JEHOVA
Quam ampla sunt tua opera!


See: http://gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/img/
The dedication occurs at 2: & the listing HOMO under PRIMATES at 22:18


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