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Fri Jul-17-09 11:08 PM
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Poll question: You have unlimited wishes and your wishes will never be twisted against you original intent. |
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The only thing you can not magically alter is free will.
Would you use your wishes to end world hunger?
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:12 PM
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1. I would end world hunger. I would also rid the world of psychopaths. |
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:16 PM
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Sorry, singling out "psychopaths" as the one other thing you'd rid the world of seemed a little odd.
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:30 PM
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3. Stalin was a psychopath and he took communism around the world |
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which meant war in numerous places against the USA. Think of all the horrors of the 20th century. All those communist wars and of course what Hilter did in WWII. And their you have my rational. I also have personal experience with a few psychos. That likely was why I put it in there. But you have to admit...psychopaths cause alot of destruction and war.
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:34 PM
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4. True. I'd just think "disease" or "homelessness" would have been more typical wishes. |
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"Ridding the world of psychopaths", while a little odd as a wish, is a worthy goal.
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:35 PM
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5. Disease and homelessness are right up there I agree. I just have a different filter |
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than you because of my life experience.
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:37 PM
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6. As I said, it's a worthy goal. |
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:toast:
To ridding the world of psychopaths :)
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:50 PM
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7. I don't get what you are getting at.... |
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of course I would wish to end world hunger.... unlimited wishes.... no free will.... what exactly is the point you are making?
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Sat Jul-18-09 01:19 AM
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9. My poll is about God. nt |
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Sat Jul-18-09 09:40 AM
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trying to define and understand the theory of god......
that free will thing is a little bugaboo idn'it :D
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Sat Jul-18-09 12:12 AM
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8. I would just make it so nobody has to eat anymore. That would be easier. |
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Edited on Sat Jul-18-09 12:18 AM by napoleon_in_rags
Or breathe. Hell, I would just amalgamate all humanity into a giant orgasmo-ball of infinite happiness.
edit: Hell, I wouldn't even do that, because that takes away freedom. I would give people freedom to create their own realities, that's what I would do. I would give them that power, so they could be miserable if they wanted, or happy.
edit edit: I wouldn't even do that, because giving them that much power takes away the power to be powerless. So they could exist in their infinitely free realm, but they could also descend to realms of powerlessness and limitation for pre-ordained sections of time. Yes, that would be it.
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Sat Jul-18-09 10:03 AM
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11. The Matrix has you. nt |
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:04 AM
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12. If I have unlimited wishes, I would use one to feed the world. I would use another to keep them from |
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getting fat and dying prematurely (unintended consequences and all that).
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:17 AM
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13. Why can't we mess with free will? |
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Any particular reason why we won't mess with free will, or is just an arbitrary choice?
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Sat Jul-18-09 11:36 AM
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14. Messing with free will negates many religions and my poll is about |
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all powerful Gods. An all powerful God should be able to mess with free will, but then the path to salvation would be messed with as well. Heaven, Hell, Nirvana, etc., are all based around the concept of free will.
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Sun Jul-19-09 06:54 AM
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16. Okay, I see where this is going. n/t |
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Wed Jul-22-09 07:04 PM
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26. And what's so great about chosen salvation as opposed to simply granted salvation? |
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Free will ain't so great when 70% of the world or more, depending on what religion you follow, is bound for hell. If I were an all-powerful God, I would skip the whole earth/trial phase and have just created people in Heaven/Paradise, full stop. Don't worry, be happy - eat, drink, and be merry and all that.
Fuck free will.
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Sun Jul-19-09 10:52 AM
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17. Other: I'd wish to improve world education. |
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Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 10:52 AM by Ready4Change
My thought is that:
1. A world of educated people would have a better chance of figuring out how to feed themselves.
2. But well fed, yet ignorant people = population explosion and resurgence of hunger.
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Sun Jul-19-09 11:37 AM
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19. Your wishes are unlimited. You don't have to chose. nt |
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Sun Jul-19-09 07:15 PM
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22. Then I'd wish many things before ending hunger. |
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For the reason that, if you only end hunger in todays world you'll get massive overpopulation, and most likely plagues and wars.
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Sun Jul-19-09 11:36 AM
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we could say that free will would negate the wish - as if one person could wish away a problem that we all ought to be concerned with fixing, it would take from the rest of us the free will and moral obligation to be part of that solution.
I think God puts that in our hands - with the hope that of our free will, we will respect one another in the biggest, broadest sense, feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, etc.
I couldn't begin to really see what the ramifications would be of one person waving a magic wand and fixing all that. Lovely as it is to think about, the potential is just bigger than I'm capable of foreseeing.
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:57 PM
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20. What if I want an end to hunger, but ending it outright isn't part of my plan? |
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My plan is more to let people starve to death and fight wars over resources until hunger just sort of ends itself.
Does that make me a bad person or am I just mysterious?
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Sun Jul-19-09 02:42 PM
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21. I lean towards "bad person" on that one. nt |
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Mon Jul-20-09 11:10 AM
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23. No, because population is too high already |
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If we could magically feed everyone, we would just double the population and be in the same predicament as before. No, as distasteful as it seems, its part of natural population control.
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Mon Jul-20-09 11:45 AM
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24. This is far too simplistic... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-20-09 11:46 AM by TreasonousBastard
Hunger is only one of an almost infinite sufferings brought on by our own actions, outside forces including chance, and often by our reactions to those outside forces. Hunger would not be solved by some simple action, like doubling the food supply, and there would still be enough other societal ills to deal with.
I have no idea what I would do with this infinite wishpower, especially since there is no guarantee that infinite wisdom would come with it. The infinite wisdom thing, and some master plan we're not entirely privy to, is part of most understandings of God, and why God is God, and we are not. And why we best not try to be gods-- should we try too hard, we stand a good chance of screwing things up much worse than any self-respecting god would.
If I were somehow stuck with this awesome power, I might be tempted to restrict fertility to one child per woman until the population was reduced to some sensible level, but I suspect that, too, would run afoul of the Law of Unintended Consequences. Wishing for a means to colonize Mars would undoubtedly end as badly.
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:20 PM
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29. if something goes horribly wrong, you can just wish things back to the way they were. |
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Fri Jul-24-09 01:44 AM
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30. So, after 10 years, millions born and more died, Mars is... |
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colonized and I realize it's all really, really fucked up, just wish it all away-- all those Martian colonies and people just gone? The dead reanimated?
That doesn't seem like it would work so well either.
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Mon Jul-20-09 07:11 PM
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25. I guess I saw it too technically |
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Whether we like it or not, the population of the planet is regulated by the quantity of resources. When food is more prevalent in the forrest, the population of deer skyrocket to the point where hunters are invided in to cull the heards.
This would not be different for the highest mammal. Limited food is a natural population regulator. Right now we have a world population that is growing at an exponential rate and in such a utopia, the world would be inundated with disease and pollution.
I voted "No" under the guise of "whatch what you wish for"
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:19 PM
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28. Unlimitied wishes dude....make another planet, and limit everybodies bodies to make no more than one |
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:18 PM
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27. Yep, and right after I would install a universal translator in everybodies ear and |
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give them all non-polluting jetpacks.
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