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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 12:40 PM Original message |
One thing I get sick of is this ranting and raving over "extreme" atheism... |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's funny they bring up communists, just how atheist were they anyway? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Most importantly... |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. They trade one dogma for another, and perform extreme acts in the name of advancing... |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I swear that Stalin modeled his approach on the Catholic Inquisition. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Fully concur. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's not possible to disrespect a "belief" |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. What about a "theory"? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Join the crowd |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. an atheist fundamentalist or extremist is any atheist who |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. No, a fundie atheist is one who touts his/her beliefs as absolute truth ... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Nice strawman you built there. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. I think you may be mistaken. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
57. Exactly nt |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
105. People that "believe" |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. The Fallacy of the Golden Mean |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. And how long before our favorite antagonist weighs in on this? |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Well, actually I think that we agnostics are the most sensible and rational. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Congratulations on using a strawman atheist. |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Do you believe in God, yes or no? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. (Insert pejorative) atheists are just the same old atheists |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Hear, hear. Unfortunately, fundie atheists don't seem to take this perspective. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. What is a "fundie Atheist"? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. It's just one of those pejoratives |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. I get upset by fundamentalist atheism -- which IS real. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Please explain, with the actual definitions of the words, |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. What exactly IS a "fundamentalist atheist"? |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Isn't fundament a polite term for butt? |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Can you name one fundamentalist atheist? Go ahead, this should be a hoot. n/t |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. I so need to buy you a drink for that. |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Hmm...well in that case, I'll take a screwdriver, don't drink beer... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
24. Deleted message |
GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
25. something I wonder about from time to time |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Think about this, the 9/11 hijackers knew they were going to die, and they... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Nationalism and patriotism also create that type of motivation. |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. The difference is that all those don't offer a reward after death. n/t |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. I equate extremist atheists less with extremist christians, and more with Extremist bikers. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Missed you. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 09:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Actually I did lose it for a bit...working at an abusive job and got depressed. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yeah but you should see the car. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #37 |
52. Didn't really go anywhere...just lurking, nothing to post. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. So says the militant fundie atheist himself... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Except for a broken arm, I'm in tip top shape. |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. Concerning violence |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Archbishop Desmond Tutu is an Anti-Christian extremist according to some people here... |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
34. Led a rather sheltered life didn't you? nt |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Is all you have to contribute lame attempts at sarcasm and insult? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. No pattern is emerging. it has been the same for a long time. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. And every time you have tried, you have failed to show definitively |
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wookie72 (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
39. "all religions?" |
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wookie72 (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. There's no such thing as a "fundamentalist Atheist" |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. True, however, it has since become a catch-all term for reactionary... |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Who the fuck calls Obama an atheist, the guy has already stated he's a homophobe due to his... |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. If you call Buddhism a religion. It's actually an atheist worldview. Isn't it? nt |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Some religions are atheist, such as many forms of Buddhism. nt |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
47. Much as I Hate to Quote the Dictionary, |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Now name one of those principles held by any atheist group or movement |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Well, the One About Their Being No God |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Some Buddhists believe that their being IS god, |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Doesn't that mean anyone who absolutely believes clouds exist, is a fundamentalist? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 01:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Extreme toasteists. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Democrats hold rigidly to many beliefs. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #49 |
103. So anyone who says "Jesus was definitely God" is a fundamentalist Christian, then? |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
104. It is not a "belief" |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-09-10 04:08 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. How does that work? Are all people fundamentalists about the nonexistence of invisible pink... |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
61. "Why I Hate the Dalai Lama" by Naomi Rousseau |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
63. "The five fundamentals of Atheism," -1928 |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I knew the League of the Militant Godly would show up! |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Don't blame me, history is what it is and sometimes the truth hurts. |
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dimbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:41 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Don't forget the episode where they supported human/ape hybrids. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Atheism, The Enemy of Civilization - 1917 |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:21 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I saw that one, too. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. 1928? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Some good Christian activity circa 1920s |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Connection between these atheists and Soviet atheists? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. oooh, you're up to 1936. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Back to 1920. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I thought it was Stalin that you liked to bitch about. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I think you don't pay attention. I have never focused solely on Stalin |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. What year did those crimes start? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. When did Lenin come to power? That's when it all started. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Here's what he was doing in 1920 |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Nice cover up. But that's far from being the whole story. Men like |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:19 AM Response to Reply #74 |
101. Let's have an example of the correspondences between Russell and Lenin |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Yo, see #101 |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. His hatred of atheists is so extreme.... |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Criticism of militant atheism does not imply hatred for atheists. nt |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. No, but your history does more than imply. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. But the shit you criticize is nearly 100 years old. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Excuse me? The 20th century was not 100 years ago and |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. If you want to get recent, religious killings are still happening every day. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Nice dodge. You're talking communism. I'm talking atheism. If |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. The only one doing the dodging here is you. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. You are SO predictable. When you can't stay with the discussion, |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Calling you a bad Christian is Christian-bashing? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. As a matter of fact you are still doing it. My religion has absolutely |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. If exposing your behavior is Christian bashing, |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. You are doing it again trotsky. All one needs to do is to take a look |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 05:59 AM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Oh I totally agree that a look at the thread shows who's bashing. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Still twisting my words aren't you? nt |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Absolutely no need to. |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
95. I must seriously ask, are you brain damaged? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #95 |
109. Um? Where did i say they ever killed anyone. It does show however |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Again I must ask, are you brain damaged? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Any organization has some kind of a doctrine, whether it called |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. In case there was any confusion... |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
80. I'm an extremist for saying aloud that God is actually an imaginary friend. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Yep, you've got it. |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Bugga bugga! |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. You didn't finish the story. Things reverted back to anti-religion |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Oooh, we're in the 50's now. McCarthy would be proud of you! n/t |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Got your popcorn? |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
113. The most hateful reaction I got to admitting I was an atheist |
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