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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:48 PM Original message |
Was Mary pregnant with Jesus before she married Joseph? |
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wolfgirl (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yup! |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thats pretty much what my people believe.... |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. The slut! |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Pre-marital sex does not make one a slut! |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Yes, my Puritan forebearers would have hanged her for that! |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. to see such language used to describe Mary is hurtful |
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signmike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. Those randy angels! |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. Joseph was from the line of David therefore Jesus was too |
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RawMaterials (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. are you implying imbred??? other wise its just |
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chicagiana (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Well here is the logical paradox ... |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. The genealogy stuff |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Have you read "King Jesus" by Robert Graves? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Was it necessary to remain anonymous considering that Herod was long dead? |
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Roaming (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
56. Mary was also from the line of David--the Bible tracks the |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. It wasn't virgin birth. That's another "borrowed" bit surrounding the |
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AliciaKeyedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
34. So you were there? |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. I'm assuming you believe in the Creation Myth as well? |
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Stunster (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. What about the Big Bang? |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. No eye witnesses. Lots of gossip though. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 03:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. were you there? |
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Somawas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sure she was |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. What is a Magnificat? nt |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. see this link |
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Dear Maggie (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Thanks - Have you heard the Christmas story of 2 babies? |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. thanks ...what a story! |
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Dear Maggie (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. One of the 7 wonders |
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Lady Sonelle (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:53 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Sorry, but Projectile Vomiting Is Bad For My Tummy |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. No, she wasn't at Elizabeth's when Gabriel appeared to her. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Elizabeth Greeted Her with |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. No, she goes to Elizabeth's after receiving the announcement |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. how did all of mankind come from Adam and Eve alone? |
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El Supremo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. DNA research has concluded that... |
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TO Kid (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. That's been debunked |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. Because there were other Adam and Eve's? |
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Obviousman (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
16. Yep |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. WIlliam Donohue is conservative but since he's Catholic, I'll guarantee |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
18. Who the f*ck cares? n/t |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
20. Early Christians did not believe this |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Not quite: |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. and isn't there a RCatholic belief that Mary ascended bodily into |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Yes, that's the Assumption |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yes, Mary was assumed into Heaven, rather than ascending to Heaven |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
40. more info on Mary via the early church: |
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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. the idea of perfection came from interaction witht he Greeks |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. Umm........ |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
25. I bet Joseph was taken by every fast-talker from Galilee to Ishna... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Joseph was thinking of divorcing Mary quietly but an angel |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. The Immaculate Conception is a spiritual-internal process. We-ourselves |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. They Weren't Married Yet |
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ghostsofgiants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
38. Since Mary and God never got hitched, that makes Jesus a bastard, yeah? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
39. yes, she was. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
46. Both the Bible and Qur'an imply this |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
48. According to the Bible, yes. |
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I wonder sometimes |
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Mabeline (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
52. The Bible says Joseph and Mary were 'espoused' and |
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frankly_fedup2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
54. I believe she did not marry Joseph until after she had Jesus. |
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