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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 06:38 AM
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Rick Warren At Time Global Health Summit
I'm running about a week behind but I just learned that Time has published a transcript of Rick Warren's participation in a conference call during the Time Global Health Summit in early November. It's available at

http://www.time.com/time/2005/globalhealth/transcripts/110105warrenpc.pdf

If you are unable to access that URL, send me a private message with your email address and I'll send you the PDF.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:48 PM
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1. Do you support Rick Warren?
Are you aware that his church is a Southern Baptist Convention church, and part of the monies go to the SBC? The SBC is anti-GLBT-rights and anti-equal-opportunity.

He may have a positive message, but he still chooses to affiliate with the SBC.

Thoughts?
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:34 PM
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2. Many hardcore SBC calvinists don't associate with them
They are considered "seeker sensitive" in their message and others don't like it. I'm not too sure how bad Warren is.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:25 PM
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3. Yes, I get the feeling that Rick Warren just wants to be a grand ..
motivational speaker .. kind of like Wayne Dyer, on with a Christian flavor.

My beef is that he made a bed with the SBC, and now he can't tell me he's a virgin; in other words, he has taken their support to make it big.

I'm not going to buy his book, and support that kind of a thing. It would be kind of like supporting John McCain after that Bush hug at the Convention.

All I'm saying is that my bucks will go to Wayne Dyer, whose teachings go hand-in-hand with my church's (Religious Science) and good cognitive psychology - and no dollars are filtering up to the notorious SBC in the process.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:41 PM
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4. Fully Opposed To His Gay-Bashing But...
On the subject of global poverty, I am fully behind the efforts of President Clinton, Bono Vox and others but they aren't enough. That's all there is to it.

I support Rick Warren's efforts on the subject of global poverty because he has done more to focus the attention of Bible-rubbing, SUV-driving soccer moms than even a Kerry presidency would have. Rick Warren's wife Kay is a really good example of this. She's a major gay-hater who loved to lump the issue of global AIDS in with homosexuality and then saw the light. Check out:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/010/17.32.html

So, how do I reconcile the contradiction between the Warrens' tremendous good deeds with their strains of hatred? Why, I participate in action alerts from the Human Rights Campaign, of course!
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