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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:55 AM Original message |
Does Heaven exist or is it only a denial of the finality of death? |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. Nice rant. I'll let you know, but not as soon as I can. |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. I guess I'm crazed, 'cause Heaven is where I'm going. |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. What's the zip code ? |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. Denial |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Are 85% of us intimidated in today's political environment to |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Jesus taught |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. This is one of my big questions, too |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. God did not instill men with the instinct to kill |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. The only part of my Catholic upbringing that I truly held on to was that |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Thanks. There is no better season to bring these questions |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. And there is a phrase |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. its really irrelevant in any case |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Yeah, poker hands are hard to play also n/t |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
7. You die |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. One word... cremation.Worms scare me. nt |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Yes, we will both be cremated. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. I will go into the sea. Sounds nice to me. nt |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
55. But wouldn't spreading the ashes |
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freestyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 08:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
53. Yes, cremation and ocean scattering for me. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. Have you ever seen a ghost? |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. I've seen plenty of ghosts |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
10. The way I was raised was my 'religion'. I don't |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
11. I'm tired of it too |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. Not an either-or question, unfortunately. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
14. I don't believe in the tooth fairy or the easter bunny either. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
21. "the spirit of humanity does not follow Christian values" ? |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I remember a 7th Day Adventist meeting in the 70's |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. A more hopeful message to you may be |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
22. i think a lot of people are afraid 'Not' to believe in Christ.. there are |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The Dali Lama can teach us much as for living in the now n/t |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. How can you think Nirvana is superior to Heaven? |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Nirvana is at peace with one's world |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No, Nirvana is getting off of the wheel of life. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I think that, poorly, I said the same thing. n/t |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:01 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I don't think so. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Huh? Not at all |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Ah, ok. :) |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
75. you are VERY wrong about Flawed.. Every being is a Buddha and is prefect |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. VERY wrong? I don't think so. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. You didn't check out Hinduism?Sounds good to me. nt |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. that is fortunate for you, but i dont go in for the God/soul thing..and it |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
23. heaven is whatever you believe it is, and what your "karmic work" is |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. on that cornball idiot. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 08:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
51. what ARE you talking about? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. I wasn't talking about "Autobiography of a Yogi". |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I still don't know what questions you are talking about |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 12:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. I was confused by one of your sentences. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. sorry to write confusingly--there should be a period after the subject |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. So, we agree afterall. :) nt |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
77. heaven is a faith up there with Santa and the easter bunnie |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
26. Heaven does NOT exist! |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. And we're probably already there. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
33. Check out Denial of Death by Ernest Becker |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:48 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Thank you. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:54 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I hope I die while I'm hoeing my garden! That would be |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:00 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Emerson on a life well-lived |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:07 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The simplicity and eloquence of Emerson is beautiful |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. It's not just the finality of death, it's the eventuality of death. |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
57. With You, I Agree |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
35. Well the truth is no one really know what happens when you die |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
46. Denial of the finality of death |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. and it's avoiding their responsibility for the life they conducted here |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That too |
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newswolf56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
50. Relevant lines (in italic) from Lao Tzu: |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 09:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
70. This is my idea of a thoughtful post n/t |
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newswolf56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Thank you. |
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freestyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
52. Faith without works is dead. So says the Epistle of James. |
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InaneAnanity (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
54. If Heaven exists... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Dude |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
58. Imagine there's no heaven, |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Interesting observation |
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neoblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
60. Failure of Imagination: Can't Imagine a Workable Heaven |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
62. Heaven extists for the people who believe in it. As does re-incarnation. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
65. Yes |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
66. Absolutely |
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InaneAnanity (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Do you hear voices?? n/t |
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Zebedeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Yes. |
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InaneAnanity (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Your doctor |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
71. Here and Now |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Jesus allegedly grew up right on the Old Silk Road, from India.. Buddhists |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 08:18 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. agreed |
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