Why rapture?

[Javaman]

Okay, I need something explained to me. I know all the fundamentalists are just waiting for the rapture so they can leave this hell hole of a planet (whatever), but why is there going to be a rapture.

I have never heard an explanation as to the whys behind it.

I'm really curious.

for instance:
Why is god on a mission to call back all these people to heaven?

-to start over?

-things have gotten so out of hand that god can't control us anymore?

-or just because god can, no explanation needed?

[leftofthedial]

1. just because a bunch of delusional people need something to believe

and to make themselves feel special

[C_U_L8R]

2. They don't need to wait for the rapture..

they can join GOD

RIGHT

NOW

[crikkett]

30. I've often wondered if the rapture is a mushroom cloud

kablooey!!
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[EstimatedProphet]

3. Because the fundamentalists are into revenge fantasies

The Rapture isn't really supported by scripture. It comes from a revenge fantasy from fundy sects in the late 1800's. They invented it as a way to feel good.

[NAO]

27. The Rapture was being taught BEFORE scripture was written down

And the Rapture is most certianly supported by scripture.

Mark 13:23-26

"But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Acts 1:11

"Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

II Peter 3:12-13

"Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

and most significantly,

I Thess. 4:16-18

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

"Rapture" comes from the words "caught up" in I Thessalonians 4:17. In the Greek the word is harpazo - "to seize upon by force", "to snatch up." The Latin translators used the word rapturo. This is the same root word that gives us "raptor" - as in Velociraptor - the prehistoric predators who overtake and snatch up their prey. That kind of gives you a nice image to think about for the rapture.



**more exegesis on the rapture in my post #25 below**
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=46649&mesg_id=46684

[EstimatedProphet]

43. And by "not supported"

see Bridget's post #17 and Gratuitous' posts too.

IMO the Rapture is yet another case of people pulling biblical verses together to support what they want it to say.

[Inland]

29. While not sure about rapture in general, the series

the name of which escapes me at the moment, is full of gore and violence as the not saved Get Theirs. That, at lease, is a vengence fantasy where smartass sinners just wish they were more like the reader at a point too late.

[catbert836]

32. Left Behind

That's the name of the series. I read them all as part of a "what the fuck are they thinking?" course. Painful, but it enlightened me a lot as to their thinking processes.

[Inland]

35. All? Aren't there a dozen volumes?

I was just speaking from reading reviews and Frank Rich, although I didn't put lack of personally reading them in my post.

That seems like a little much. Where they rollicking good reads?

[catbert836]

41. Well,

There are about 12 volumes in that series. Of course, with prequels, sequels, and spin-offs, its a huge franchise. (I'm sure the authors donate all the money to Christian charities, though :sarcasm: ). Me, I checked them out of the library.
They weren't good reads at all, I thought the writing was atrocious, but it explained a lot about the fundie mindset to me, which I think is useful.

[noahmijo]

4. I wish I was a superstitious freak who believed in that bullshit

that way I'd have some hope that someday all the other religious superstitious freaks will someday just disappear off the face of the earth and make the world a better place.


Don't ask for apologies you're not gonna get any. I judge a tree by the fruit it bears, and being a religious fanatic is a CHOICE not a stamp given at birth and they deserve every ounce of negative input they bring upon themselves with their very actions.

[longship]

5. If there is a rapture (not that I believe such garbage)...

It will not be the rapture rightists who will be called up.

It will be people who are *not* rapture rightists.

[meganmonkey]

6. I think it is so the rest of us 'sinners'

can enjoy our lives in peace :)

Take them away!

[C_U_L8R]

12. I will be feeling RAPTURE

once they are gone.

YO Freepie Fundies -
Please go join God NOW... you can do it yourself !!!!!!
just leave.... now..... and hey look.. there's baby Jesus.. he's calling your name...
and Virgin Mary too.. ain't she a babe and oh..
it's heaven.. you don't need to watch you cholesterol anymore,
ALL... YOU... CAN... EAT... and drink too.
Satellite TV. Two bazillion channels.

MMMMmmmmmmm Rapture

[ksilvas]

7. Because "god" hates christians.

The Rapture is god's way of removing
christians from the planet.
It's not the end of the world, just the end
of christianity. Fundamentalist just
have a confused interpretation.
Bring on the Rapture Baby!!!!

[Lisa0825]

8. When the Rapture comes....

I hope I can find a driver-less Prius, 'cuz I really like those cars. :evilgrin:

[Bridget Burke]

11. Nope, the Raptured will leave SUV's behind....

The REALLY BIG ones!

[yellowcanine]

18. That's right, no way are those tree huggin, Birkenstock wearing, tofu

eating, hybrid driving, hemp wearing, French speaking, envirowacko surrender monkeys going to be attending that meeting in the sky.

[azmouse]

9. A lot of it began with the Millerites.

There are many websites on this issue. Do a search on "Millerite movement".
One site to read is: www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/amprophesy.html

As you learn more about this movement you realize how delusional they were and still are.

[Javaman]

21. Great link. But check out my reply below #20 n/t

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. This concept is relatively new in the Christian tradition, I believe,

coming from some evangelical pioneers about 300 years ago. They got their concepts through their interpretation of Revelations, I believe.

Check with someone from this tradition, but I think the term "Rapture" refers to union with God.

[C_U_L8R]

14. Rapture is just

a really big orgasm.


These fundies are freaks ! Kinky little freaks !

[Bridget Burke]

17. The concept is more like 200 years old. Or less.

Here's a quite detailed critique of "The Rapture" from a Roman Catholic source. (The Catholics will definitely be Left Behind.)
www.catholic.com/library/Rapture.asp

Most mainline Protestants don't believe in The Rapture either--especially as described in the Left Behind books. And true Fundamentalists disagree--because The Rapture is NOT really Biblical.

Etymology from Wikipedia: The word "rapture" comes from the Latin verb rapere which means "to carry off" or "catch up". It was used in the Latin Vulgate (about 405 A.D.) translation of 1 Thessalonians 4:17, which is the primary biblical reference to the event in question.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture

Other English words derived from the root include "rape" & "raptor."

[gratuitous]

13. It's a painstaking, meticulous concoction

Back in my fundy phase (late 1970s, I blame disco), I read heavily on the subject, which is cobbled from several disparate biblical verses. The verses are carefully shorn of all context and pieced together to create a tapestry of blood, death, anguish and destruction, ultimately resulting in a new heaven and a new earth, a paradise for all the beleaguered souls who follow the One True Gospel.

I'll spare you all the details, but it pretty much boils down to a vision of God as Combination Lock. If you spin the dials just right, and in the right order, you're golden. You can be a hedonistic creep, screw your business partners, cheat on your wife, beat your kids without mercy or reason, and it's all okay. You got the combination to the celestial vault, and you're in.

If you screw up a number or don't spin the dial in the right direction for the Great Combination Lock, you're done for. Doesn't matter one whit about feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, of visiting the sick and imprisoned, it's the Lake of Fire for you. For eternity. Tough shit, but you should have known. All that biblical folderol about justice and mercy and compassion is a smokescreen (and we all know who's at home in flames and smoke, don't we?) to dupe the masses. That God, what a kidder!

[Javaman]

20. Thanks for the reply, but...

Again, my question is, why is it to happen? We are all told how it's suppose to go down, but no one actually knows why.

Meaning, does god get up one day and say, "I feel a rapture coming on!!" What, according to the fundies will be the reason for it to start?

This is the basic question that no one really seems to answer.

Is it the cumulative events that bring it on or is it a moment in time that, poof, it just begins?

My point in all of this is: why have a rapture in the first place? When we die and "supposedly get judged", why go through all the trouble of a giant blowout? It's just kind of circular logic to me. God is supposed to be the giant control freak in the sky that knows all, sees all and does all, so why all the trouble?

If in fact it's the birth of the "antichrist" that does it, why does that even happen? (see godly powers above). I just don't see god being this type of being out to make our lives miserable.

I get back to the, "god loves all" thing and everything about the rapture falls flat.

See my point?

[gratuitous]

22. Absolutely

The "reason" behind it I rather facetiously summed up as what a kidder God is. The actual reasons are a little fuzzier, and my take on it is that those who are going to spend eternity in heavenly bliss need to be tried and tempered in the fire, purified like iron ore into stainless steel (or insert whatever other metallurgical analogy suits your fancy). God doesn't want to spend eternity with a bunch of mal-formed and deficient humans; God wants to be real sure they deserve their spot. And the ones who deserve their eternal reward are the ones who put in the time and effort to suss out this divine Rubik's cube.

The antecedents (and I really wish I didn't remember all this crap) flow from the rebirth of Israel as a nation, re-starting a celestial countdown (from the Hebrew Testament Book of Daniel, in which forty "weeks of years" run from the time of the abomination of desolation until the rapture) that was interrupted by the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem and the Jewish Diaspora back in Roman times. The original thinking was that this forty weeks of years (40 weeks times seven days in a week yields 490 years) began at the time of some calamity or other for the Jewish nation in approximately 380 BCE, purportedly the time that Daniel was written. The timing was interrupted in 70 CE by the Romans when they sacked Jerusalem, stopping the celestial clock of the rapture at 450 years.

The first "credible" time computation I heard of was that the rapture was supposed to occur at I + 40 years; that is, 40 years after the foundation of the new Israel, God would set in motion the seven years of Tribulation. Israel was re-established as a nation in 1948, so it was all coming down in 1988. When that didn't happen (and this is long after I quit worrying about this nonsense), some fiddling with the numbers and the calculations had to occur. Every day the rapture doesn't happen is another day these knuckleheads have to come up with yet another alternative explanation for why it hasn't happened yet. It's pretty exhausting keeping track of it all, which is why these assclowns have to spend hours and hours every day on their TV and radio programs figuring out the new details.

Why does it have to happen this way and not another way for our rapturist friends? I can't really answer that one, as the reasons are probably as many as the individuals who keep up on this stuff. There's the thrill of living on the edge of Eternity. There's the feeling of belonging with the other "insiders" who know the details and mechanics of the Divine Plan. There's the satisfaction of seeing the guilty punished and the righteous rewarded.

[Javaman]

24. Thanks for the info. :)

It appears as if, and this is not to be meant as an insult, you are trying to explain the unexplainable.

Which, to me clears everything up.

I really appreciate you taking time to answer my questions.

Cheers!

[gratuitous]

26. By George, I think you've got it

I wish I had a more coherent explanation, but you post with the rapture you have, not the rapture you want.

[Zebedeo]

31. Rubik's cube?

And the ones who deserve their eternal reward are the ones who put in the time and effort to suss out this divine Rubik's cube.

It ain't that complicated:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9

[gratuitous]

36. Then why did Lazarus go to Abraham's bosom?

Jesus never said anything about him believing the right thing. Luke 16:22.

The sheep inherit the kingdom of God, but they didn't confess anything with their mouths. Matthew 25:31-46.

And darned if some people who call Jesus "lord" apparently aren't going to be saved. Matthew 25:44; Matthew 7:21.

Hmmm. Maybe it's not quite so cut and dried.

[Zebedeo]

37. The beggar Lazarus story in Luke 16 was a parable

Parables are not necessarily about real people. They are illustrative of a point. And the beggar Lazarus story was a parable about events that happened before Jesus' death on the Cross. Before God's sacrifice of His only Son, obviously it would not have been possible for people to get to Heaven by accepting that sacrifice to pay for their sins. There are different theories about what happened to people such as Moses, Abraham, Elijah, etc. who lived before the events at Calvary. Some say that they went to Paradise, where they stayed until Jesus' death and Resurrection, and then they went to Heaven because they believed on Jesus. In any event, your example is not relevant to the present times, because now, the events at Calvary have come to pass, and you either believe on Jesus and accept his suffering and death to pay for your sins ... or you don't.

Consider Romans 4:2-3:

If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."

Genesis 15:6:

Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness.

So Lazarus the beggar may have reached Abraham's side the same way Abraham got there. He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.

The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone, but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification. Romans 4:23-25

What makes you say that the sheep in Matthew 25:31-46 didn't confess anything with their mouths? There is no indication that they did not.

The people who call Jesus "Lord" but do not receive salvation are the insincere ones, such as false prophets, who do not truly believe, but misuse the name of Jesus. Calling Jesus "Lord" is not some magical incantation that earns you salvation. You have to have an earnest, sincere belief in your heart. That is why the Apostle Paul says:

If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. Romans 10:9-10

It is true that God wants us to be good (to obey His Commandments). But to try to "earn" your way into Heaven is folly. What can you do to earn your way into Heaven? You have to obey God's Commandments. Have you done that -- all the time -- for your entire life? Even as the Commandments have been explained by Jesus? E.g., if you've lusted for a woman who was not your wife, you have committed adultery with her in your heart. Have you ever coveted? So, unless you have kept God's Commandments for your entire life, you are a sinner, and you cannot erase that sin by doing good works from now on.

All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God — not by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

Even though salvation cannot be earned with good works, God still wants us to do them, and because Christians are saved, they SHOULD do good works, not in a vain attempt to earn a place in Heaven, but out of gratitude and a love of Jesus, and a desire to do His will, and to offer our lives up to Him to be used as His instrument on Earth, to fulfill his purposes.

Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. Romans 12:1

For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Ephesians 2:10

The Lord knows those who are his, and, Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness. 2 Timothy 2:19

[gratuitous]

39. You have your favorite verses

Like I said above, verses plucked almost at random, shorn of context, and then set up as some sort of eternal verity. Then when something else is pointed out, it's "oh, that's just a parable" or "you aren't reading it right." Well, the Bible indisputably says all of these things. And if belief is essential or necessary, then isn't that a "work" also? A lot of people have agreed amongst themselves it isn't, but does that make it so?

[Zebedeo]

40. You want context?

Jesus Himself said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." This is so clear and unambiguous, but if you want context, here it is:

John 14
Jesus Comforts His Disciples
1"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. 2In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4You know the way to the place where I am going."
Jesus the Way to the Father
5Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

8Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."

9Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. 12I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. 14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
15"If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."
22Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, "But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?"

23Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

25"All this I have spoken while still with you. 26But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. 27Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

28"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 29I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe. 30I will not speak with you much longer, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me, 31but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me.
"Come now; let us leave.

I believe that this passage of Jesus' own words is powerful evidence supporting the view expressed in my post above. The only way to the Father is through Jesus, and if you love Jesus, you will obey his teachings. Salvation comes from faith in Christ, and having been promised that salvation, Christians strive to obey Jesus' teachings because they love Him.

Throughout the Gospels, Jesus repeatedly asked the question "Who do you say that I am?" This question was very important to Jesus, and he asked it over and over. I believe that will be a question asked of each of us, at some point in time.

Who do you say that I am?

[gratuitous]

42. Thanks for illustrating my point so well

That being that when faith is reduced to proof-texting, relationship is lost, dogma and formula trump everything, and we get a whole new batch of Pharisees constructing new Rubik's cubes to solve in order to win God's favor.

[Zebedeo]

44. You are the only one trying to make it complicated

It's not a puzzle. The message is as clear as it could possibly be. You seem to be making yourself intentionally blind to it -- for whatever reason.

The faith of Christians has not be "reduced to proof-texting." You claimed that Scripture was a complicated puzzle, and I used Scripture to prove that it is not complicated at all. Now you say that "relationship is lost" because of "proof-texting"?

On my new pastor's first day at church, he said to read the Word, and if what he said conflicted with the Word, believe the Word and not him. I used Scripture to rebut your assertion that the path to salvation in the Bible is a complicated puzzle. It's not.

As for your comment about a "new batch of Pharisees," I suppose that is intended as an insult to me. Some people I know would consider your comment anti-Semitic. The Pharisees in Israel 2000 years ago were hypocrites, and they were concerned with form over substance. Neither of those things can be said about me, so your insult doesn't stick. But if it gives you joy to fling unjustified insults at other posters on DU, go right ahead. It won't make one bit of difference in my life.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

15. Here's the thing...they got it confused

what they heard was that veloci raptors, those meat tearing dinosaurs, were coming back. Somebody heard it wrong. It's all wrapped up with Intelligent design and Adam and Eve and stuff.

okay...it's Friday and I'm being silly.

I have been to church just about every Sunday of my life for almost 6 decades and nobody ever once mentioned the rapture. I guess our denomination didn't get the memo.

[salvorhardin]

23. No, no, no! You all have it wrong!

What god really said was that velocipedes were coming back.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

28. Okay, but do we have to ride them naked?

Because I have parts that will get caught up in those wheels, I think. Gravity and six decades will do that.

[yellowcanine]

16. The Rapture is supposed to save all of the Christians from the horrors

of the Great Tribulation which follows. The great Tribulation features a period of time where the bad guys led by the AntiChrist takes over for 1000 years until the Battle of Armageddon when the AntiChrist armies fight it out with God's army. Lots of blood and gore results. In the end God wins and makes a new world where everything is hunky dory and all of the malcontents and bad guys are rotting in Hell with Satan and the AntiChrist (who many fundies believe to be the Pope, by the way).

[jrw14125]

19. Obviously...

God created the heavens and the earth and mankind some 6000 years ago. (I know b/c the bible tells me so.)

And some day very soon (I know because the rapture index tells me so), Jesus, our Lord and personal savior, who suffered and died on a cross at the hands of the dirty jews and liberals, will come back to judge us.

For those like me, who have lived in pious, hypocritical indignation for the better part of my adult life, we will be magically lifted up into heaven, to sit at the right hand of the Lord to watch the rest of humanity be tormented with plagues and stuff for years. And this will please the Lord. And me, because I'm a sadomasochistic scumbag with a fetish for the suffering of others. After we get bored watching all those people suffer, many of whom will do so only because they never had the opportunity to see my Will and my Word for themselves (hey, life ain't fair), our Lord Jesus will battle it out with Satan's son in an end-of-days chess match that has already been pre-ordained for him to win centuries ago. (I know b/c my pastel-suited, gold-chain wearing, womanizing, ambiguously gay minister told me so.)

Obviously, this all raises the question, if God created the universe and everything in it, and is all-knowing, and all-seeing, why go through the motions on this pale, blue dot just to torture innocent people of his own creation that likely had no chance to do or know otherwise, and play into this prediction of the end-of-days battle (the victory of which is already pre-ordained)?

And the answer to that, my brothers and sisters, is that the Lord works in mysterious ways...

[NAO]

25. Jesus needs to finish what he started (some background)

When Jesus came the first time it was so that he could be killed to satisfy God's blood lust.

Some Background: God was very angry with mankind, and he would not get over it unless blood was spilled. People used to kill goats and birds and sheep to keep God's wrath at bay, but those were sort of just band-aid type measures. Jesus' blood is enough to help God get over his wrath with everyone's sins for all time. He looks at us and sees the blood of his son, and he is happy. Seems bizarre and gross to me, but that is basically the story.

So the second part of Jesus' mission is to come back to earth and establish political rule over all the nations (some of his followers are helping him out by getting a head start on this objective). One he has siezed control of the world, he will throw all the people who did not splash around in his blood (to wash away their sins) into a lake of fire to be tortured forever and ever.

While Jesus was alive he talked about how people would see him coming in the clouds to establish his kingdom. When he flew back up to heaven on a cloud, some angels told the people that were watching that they would see him returning the same way he left (flying on a cloud). They thought he was comming back within their lifetimes! Oops, 2,000 years and still waiting.

The Apostle Paul talked in his letters about the day when Jesus would come back. Paul used the word that we get as "rapture". "Rapture" comes from the words "caught up" in I Thessalonians 4:17. In the Greek the word is harpazo - "to seize upon by force", "to snatch up." The Latin translators used the word rapturo. This is the same root word that gives us "raptor" - as in Velociraptor - the prehistoric predators who overtake and snatch up their prey. That kind of gives you a nice image to think about for the rapture.

[catbert836]

33. Well, on the plus side,

At least once the rapture happens, we'll be guaranteed winning the House and Senate back.

[CatholicEdHead]

34. It is a free pass to do whatever they want

as they are expecting a free "do over" for the world with everything becoming Pollyannaish with a snap of the fingers.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

38. 'Cause they think the world is all fucked up.

:eyes: