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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:06 PM Original message |
Atheist Societal Structure |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. A hell of a lot better than it does right now. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. because it puts them on "teams" and they have to win |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Please, I would like an answer to the topic, not flames. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. It really comes down to the individuals |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. You make excellent points. |
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wtbymark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. A lot better, thats how it would work, a lot better |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Please, stay on topic, no flaming. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. I think you're confusing "flaming" with negative opinions. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. It would look a like what the Deist founders wanted it to look like. |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Family Structure? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. But the founders didn't say much about family structure |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Yes, excellent points |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. It would probably have progressed just as it's progressing. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
54. That is interesting |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 07:41 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Customs are, by definition, based on what has always been done. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. True, |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. I would image that it would have a true representative democracy, |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Why do you think this? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Because I believe (unlike some religions which assume the opposite), |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. More great points! |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't think that we can really have any idea. |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Good points |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. I guess there has never been such a thing |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Hmmmm... |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Just a tad of sarcasm |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Quote |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Now those folks are good musicians in their genres |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. That's kind of circular |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I couldn't disagree with you more |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. I don't want to turn this into another |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I think we are talking about different things |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Well if you are going to do that |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-11-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. Medieval theatre |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. That's one of those "We'll never know" things. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I can speak to that personally |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. So without your beliefs you wouldn't find stained glass beautiful? |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. No, I probably would not |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Forgot to respond to your quote |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. One last thought |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. More of an agnostic. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Of course there has. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Not to split hairs |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I'll see your split hair and raise ya a friz |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Call |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Gotcha. :) |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. So here is how I define |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. I think your subject line and question are very different things. |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I completely agree |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. Impossible to know for sure. |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I agree on the labeling part, definately. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Lots of animals in nature mate in pairs for life. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. They could just as well be based on maintaining the status quo. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. You seem to be taking this question back to an indigenous state. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
29. China, during much of it's history, has been predominantly atheist |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Which ties in to, and is supported by, this article: |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's too bad Christianity was so poorly represented in the early years |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
45. You mean our little part of North America I suppose? ;) |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-11-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
74. A lot of Native Americans were killed off by disease |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 07:36 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Disease brought by missionary-minded people |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Many other cultures took resources by force too |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
55. It is difficult to say |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Yawn. You can't respond to a single post in here without calling atheism a |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-09-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Please |
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InaneAnanity (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 02:58 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. You compared... |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Not completely |
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InaneAnanity (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
91. You have said such things before... |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
121. You have done this exact thing before |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
58. Women would know true equality. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 08:54 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. I agree 100% |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 04:09 AM Response to Original message |
60. Women would have rights equal to men |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
61. It would look like most communist states. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 05:56 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Where do you get that certainty? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. The same place the faithful always get it. n/t |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-11-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. The entire study of anthropology, pretty much. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-11-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Again, your confident assertion |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. It doesn't seem like you are addressing my key point though. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 03:28 AM Response to Reply #82 |
95. Neither model |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. Religion is ALWAYS taught or introduced. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 07:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Lots of Christians in today's America essentially worship Bush. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-11-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. The problem is... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-11-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. If one is prejudiced against atheists and atheism, |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. :) why don't you guys call yourselves "pro-reason?" |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. "You guys"? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Once again, trotsky, you nailed it. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #85 |
92. "unconvinced that gods exist." |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Um, wrong. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Game over. trotsky wins. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. You seem to be confused about definitions. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. Sorry, but you are wrong. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. I'm not telling you to leave. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. By your understanding, I am not an atheist. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. sure. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Actually, you are incredibly ignorant about atheism. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. Words have meanings that are set |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-16-06 06:55 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. No, your point was to redefine atheism so that you could vilify us. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 04:39 AM Response to Reply #127 |
129. Deleted message |
trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. An analogy to homophobes? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. You're comparing your "persecution" on DU to that of GLBT people? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. We're not denying anything, since we don't see anything to deny. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. Mods, thank you for your quick work. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. "It defines itself off of what its against ", or what it is not. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I f I were to say I am pro-reason, wouldn't that insult believers? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Good point. nt |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. So are you really against the reasonable religious friend? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 06:20 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. I'm uncertain what your post has to do with my post. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 06:30 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Sorry, I mixed you up with somebody else |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #97 |
120. I think religion is uncessary and can easily lead to fundamentalism. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. People are not naturally religious. They are naturally pattern-seekers. |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
64. I would like to think it could be a kinder Society. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-10-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. One possible difference |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-11-06 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
71. Religion/ideology comes into play in all large societies |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-11-06 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
75. What are the parameters? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
79. Observation: There is no One Right Way for People to Live. |
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Goldensilence (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-12-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
84. I find the question one sided |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
94. What do you think the U.S. would like? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
99. Did anyone take up the invitation to hang some meat on atheism's bones? |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Oh brother. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-13-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. I have never seen someone so supposedly liberal, yet with such |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 03:27 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Oh my, how misinformed you are |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. You misunderstand. |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:18 AM Response to Reply #107 |
123. Oh my, I have a tendency to misunderstand. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. That's an answer. |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 01:23 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Well now, I may have found something you have posted I agree with. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 04:30 AM Response to Reply #99 |
105. You're being much too simplistic. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. All I wanted to know was the positive. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. ahh, raspberries. You don't know what maieutic means, do you? nt |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. No, but I do know when someone "answers" a question with a question. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Get real, your questions were answered. You're ducking the answers. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Seven questions provide the answer. Is this a koan? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. No thanks. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. I had you in the "no thanks" category already. Thanks for wasting my time |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-14-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Oh, no no no. Thank YOU. nt |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
125. It would be the best of all possible worlds. |
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