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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:11 PM
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The flying spaghetti monster: Interview with Richard Dawkins
Note: This could be classified under Science or Theology, so I split the difference and put it here in GD.

Oct. 13, 2006 | In the roiling debate between science and religion, it would be hard to exaggerate the enormous influence of Richard Dawkins. The British scientist is religion's chief prosecutor -- "Darwin's rottweiler," as one magazine called him -- and quite likely the world's most famous atheist. Speaking to the American Humanist Association, Dawkins once said, "I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate."

Not surprisingly, these kinds of comments have made Dawkins a lightning rod in the debate over evolution. While he's a hero to those who can't stomach superstition or irrationality, his efforts to link Darwinism to atheism have upset the scientists and philosophers, like Francis Collins and Michael Ruse, who are trying to bridge the gap between science and religion. Yet, surprisingly, some intelligent design advocates have actually welcomed Dawkins' attacks. William Dembski, for instance, says his inflammatory rhetoric helps the I.D. cause by making evolution sound un-Christian.

Dawkins' outspoken atheism is a relatively recent turn in his public career. He first made his name 30 years ago with his groundbreaking book "The Selfish Gene," which reshaped the field of evolutionary biology by arguing that evolution played out at the level of the gene itself, not the individual animal. Dawkins now holds a chair in the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University. Thanks to his tremendous talent for clear and graceful writing, he's done more to popularize evolutionary biology than any other scientist, with the possible exception of Stephen Jay Gould. Dawkins has a gift for explaining science through brilliant metaphors. Phrases like "the selfish gene" and "the blind watchmaker" didn't only crystallize certain scientific ideas; they entered the English vernacular. And his concept of "memes" -- ideas themselves evolving like genes -- spawned a new way of thinking about cultural evolution.

Dawkins' latest book turns to his more recent passions. In "The God Delusion," Dawkins fulminates against religious moderates as well as fundamentalists. He argues that the existence of God is itself a scientific conjecture, one that doesn't hold up to the evidence. And he dismisses the entire discipline of theology: I have yet to see any good reason to suppose that theology (as opposed to biblical history, literature, etc.) is a subject at all."

The interview is at this link (click for a free Day Pass):
http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/10/13/dawkins/
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:17 PM
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1. He's going to be on "To the Best of Our Knowledge" this Sunday
To The Best of our Knowledge - 10/15A
On To the Best of Our Knowledge, a conversation with Richard Dawkins
about why he thinks belief in God makes no more sense than belief in
Thor, Apollo, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Also, two writers
reflect on their faith: former Saturday Night Live cast member Julia
Sweeney and novelist Mary Gordon.

You can stream it here:

http://www.wpr.org/
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:32 PM
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4. Thanks.
Have you heard Sweeney's monologue, "Letting Go of God"? It's available in NPRs "This American Life" archives.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:23 PM
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7. beat me: Sweeney's piece is remarkable, isn't it?
words fail
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 11:11 PM
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12. It's wonderful.
I understand that she's expanding it and taking it on the road.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:17 PM
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2. theology: the study of something that doesn't exist....
Dawkins is amazing.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:27 PM
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9. HA!
:D

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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:25 PM
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3. Am I the only one having trouble reading this?
It says "Click on the sponsor logo: to read this article and all of Salon for free", but I don't see any sponsor logo. :shrug:
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:33 PM
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5. Click on the Site Pass link.
You'll get a short ad and then full access to the site.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:20 PM
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6. Guess I'm going blind.
I don't see it.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:24 PM
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8. no, you're not....salon is NOTORIOUS for making it very difficult
to get past all the BS in order to read their stuff

there have been several times I've just given up trying to figure out how to get to the story

but....have faith!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:53 PM
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10. Got it.
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 10:21 PM by drm604
I had to turn off ad blocking.
Good article. I recommend his books. The Blind Watchmaker is a fascinating explanation of evolution.

On edit: I notice that this had been moved from GD to Religion/Theology. Interesting choice, IMHO the Science forum would have been more correct. But it's not my place to decide.
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