Catholic Church Tries to Extort British Government

[Ian David]

Wednesday, November 29, 2006
Catholic Church Tries to Extort Government
In the UK that is. The Archbishop of Birmingham, Rev Vincent Nichols, warns the government:

Archbishop Nichols said that the proposed regulations, designed to ensure equal treatment for gays, could mean the end of the Church's co-operation with the Government in providing a range of welfare services.

It amazes me that the Catholic Church would still try to flex is flabby arm of power to put down gay and lesbian people. God knows that helping the poor is less important than those terrible gays proclaiming love and loyalty for life.

Ann Widdecombe, the former Conservative minister, said that the proposals spelled the "end of freedom of conscience in our country".

"They create a hierarchy of rights and whenever a homosexual right comes up against any other right the homosexual right prevails," she said, adding that the Government "seems to have no clue practising a religion means more than going to church".

That's right, it means standing up and proclaiming that certain people should be discriminated against and do not deserve that same rights as others!

What would Jesus do, help the poor and needy or stand up against gay people?

posted by Boston Bud @ 6:00 AM

More:
http://massresistancewatch.blogspot.com/2006/11/catholic-church-tries-to-extort.html

[Why Syzygy]

1. Lest you forget,

The Holy Roman Catholic Church has a verrrrry long history of discrimination. Like, women? Like, Protestants or Unbelievers? This is child's play for them.

[Oleladylib]

2. I am actively in it so before condemning it ..be sure to get the facts...

and to answer your question...Jesus would help the poor and needy while ministering to gay people. There would not be a difference in his treatment ..challenge maybe. Differentiate between organized religion and Christians..please.

[elehhhhna]

Show me the scripture where Jesus slams gay people.

All those years in the Methodist Church plus about a million Friday night masses with the Italian/Irish cousins and I missed the whole Jesus-hates-gays thing!

[elehhhhna]

3. Show me the scripture where Jesus slams gay people.

All those years in the Methodist Church plus about a million Friday night masses with the Italian/Irish cousins and I missed the whole Jesus-hates-gays thing!

[cap]

4. the hierarchy can say whatever it likes

but at some point, Catholic families will start asking why they are supporting Catholic institutions that won't serve their own relatives.

Catholics have gay relatives and they arent casting them out. The hierarchy will notice contributions drop off and they will rescind this nonsense. Works every time.

[Finder]

5. A priest friend of mine said...

that if homosexuals were able to marry and were treated equal in society, there would be a shortage of priests and nuns.lol

[cosmik debris]

6. I seem to recall Henry VIII having a little spat

with the Catholics over their stand on marriage. Let me think now, how did that turn out? Oh yeah, the Catholics lost. I doubt that they will try that gambit again.

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. Think again

Ruth Kelly, the Communities and Local Government Secretary, mentioned in the article: member of Opus Dei

Tony Blair: married to a Catholic, children went to a Catholic secondary school, is said to be considering converting to Roman Catholicism

The cabinet is in open warfare over new gay rights legislation after Tony Blair and Ruth Kelly, the Communities Secretary, who is a devout Catholic, blocked the plans following protests from religious organisations.

Alan Johnson, the Education Secretary, was so angry with the move that he wrote a letter to Kelly three weeks ago, telling her that the new rights should not be watered down.

The battle between what is being dubbed the government's 'Catholic tendency' and their more liberal colleagues centres on proposals to stop schools, companies and other agencies refusing services to people purely because of their sexuality.

Kelly has now delayed the introduction of the laws for consideration of what a spokesman said were 'difficult issues'. Johnson is leading the opposition to watering down the laws. 'His department has in the past taken the faith schools' line but Johnson is saying they have got to be sensible about this,' said a senior Whitehall source. 'You can' t have Satan worshippers going into the local church to have their annual meeting, but if there's a publicly funded school and it wants to open its facilities to everyone else but not a local gay and lesbian group - that's discrimination.'

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,1922914,00.html

[kiahzero]

8. Yes, because the RCC is really the group to give a lecture on "freedom of conscience"

I wonder how they manage to get out statements like that without laughing.

[silverweb]

9. Okay, so this is what I just don't get:

"...whenever a homosexual right comes up against any other right the homosexual right prevails."

WTF are they talking about? I've heard this "special rights" crap before and yet no one has ever been able to give me a concrete example of they're talking about.

As far as I have been able to see, all homosexuals want is equal rights to everyone else, not "prevalent" or "special rights" -- and I certainly agree with that for ALL people.

[Sapphocrat]

10. Oh, that's easy to understand, silverweb.

Just take any statement where somebody whines that "affirmative action = reverse discrimination," substitute "gay" for "black," "equal rights" for "affirmative action," and "special rights" for "reverse discrimination," and that's what they really mean.

Me, I'm still waiting to hear how marriage equality is going to destroy mixed marriages (mixed = male-female). :shrug:

[silverweb]

11. Frustrating, isn't it?

And just so wrong.

:(

[skyblue]

12. This is the group that gives millions to anti-choice efforts.

The pope was out there saying condoms don't prevent aids. Now health organisations don't give condoms out to those in 3rd world countries if they want support from the government. Catholic hospitals here probably won't even support your living will. Cath hospitals won't give out the morning after pill even after incest/rape, etc. There is some split within the Catholic church on many issues but the belief in a God who killed all of Noah's friends babies, etc. and that you can get all the cookies and ice cream you want without gaining any weight once you get to heaven has a strong hold on people. Also I think that if you get divorced you might not be accepted into the church and perhaps may go straight to the ETERNAL HELL FIRE regardless of your reason for getting divorced (abuse, neglect etc).