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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 11:26 PM
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Question to Yankee fans re: Steinbrenner
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 11:27 PM by WilliamPitt
Bill Simmons made a comment recently about how he was surprised that, after the ALCS meltdown, the cops didn't find Torre dead in a pink Cadillac and Cashman frozen like a brick in a meatlocker (a la the 'Layla' scene in Goodfellas) because Steinbrenner secretly wigged out. In truth, he didn't wig out.

More recently, Simmons wondered aloud if Steinbrenner might actually be dead and they haven't told anyone, because there still hasn't been a wig-out.

My question to Yankee fans, who are inestimably more knowledgeable than I about the capricious nature of Big George:

With the worst start in 14 years, with the Yankees in the cellar after the ALCS humiliation, do you see a Steinbrenner wig-out on the horizon? Or is it too early? Or does he just not wig out anymore?
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 11:42 PM
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1. Torre and Cashman are essentially untouchable
Edited on Sun Apr-17-05 12:13 AM by BlueManDude
so what can GS do? Every once in a while he goes off in the Post or he flies in from Tampa to watch the game personallly (which means he's concerned) but he can't shitcan the manager or the GM so it's all just bluster. Torre and Cashman know this by now.

Actually the Y's have had a much more stable manager/GM situation than the Sox have had for the last decade.

The Yankees went to Japan to start last season and were 8-11 at one point. They won the east easily.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 11:58 PM
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2. Much too early. n/t
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:04 AM
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3. He's got a colt running in the Kentucky Derby, who is expected..
to be the favorite in the race. Supposedly, he is very pre-occupied with the possibility of winning the Derby.

As to finding Torre in a pink cadillac, I suspect Joe knows a few people much more capable in the cement overshoes routine than George does.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:10 AM
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4. Joe will invite George to dinner at Sparks Steakhouse in NYC
and George won't make it inside - a la Big Paul Castellano.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:12 AM
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5. Who's Sammy the Bull Gravano in this mob analogy?
Is Stottlemeyer still pitching coach?
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:15 AM
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6. Jeter - he wants control of the Yankee Crime Family
Edited on Sun Apr-17-05 12:18 AM by BlueManDude
unfortunately mel is still the pitching coach.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:19 AM
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7. Ahh Jeter
Yeah I can see that. Ha Yankee Crime Family, good one.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:58 AM
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8. I think George is confused . . .
Edited on Sun Apr-17-05 01:35 AM by OneBlueSky
he REALLY wants to win, and he's put his money where his mouth is and assembled a team of All-Stars . . . who last year engineered the greatest choke in the history of sports . . .

despise them all you like, but there really is something called Yankee Pride . . . trouble is, it was missing last year, and it's missing even more this year . . . half the team is there only for George's money, and would play in Oshkosh if they could get the same dough . . . a bunch of individual prima donas just trying to get through the season without embarassing themselves . . . what pride they do have is strictly personal and in no way involves the team . . . that's why the team never gelled last year, and why they're not gelling this year, only worse . . .

I've watched most of the Yankee games this year, and already it's getting old . . . there's no passion, no fire, no Yankee swagger . . . A-Rod's more concerned about how he looks when he strikes out (really nice!) than actually being a Yankee, in the traditional sense . . .

I've also watched a few Mets games, and will likely be watching more . . . they're playing really exciting baseball, the way it's supposed to be played . . . and they're having fun . . . much more enjoyable to watch than a lineup of multi-millionaires who don't seem to care about anything but their own public personae . . .

yeah, George is confused . . . he knows he's stuck with a boatload of ridiculous contracts, and he has to make a decision about Cashman this year . . . how much of this is his fault and how much is Cashman's I don't know -- but I suspect Brian was mainly carrying out George's orders . . . and George is learning that this isn't the way to put a team together, i.e. that money can't buy a world championship . . . quite a revelation that is no doubt shattering his worldview . . .
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 04:05 PM
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9. Uh oh...here it comes...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250417101

BALTIMORE (AP) -- George Steinbrenner is tired of waiting for his New York Yankees to get going.

Now he's angry.

Miguel Tejada hit his eighth career grand slam, and the Baltimore Orioles roughed up Kevin Brown and completed a three-game sweep of New York with an 8-4 victory Sunday. The last-place Yankees (4-8) have dropped four straight and eight of 10 overall.

"Enough is enough. I am bitterly disappointed as I'm sure all Yankee fans are by the lack of performance by our team," Steinbrenner said in a statement issued immediately after the game.

"It is unbelievable to me that the highest-paid team in baseball would start the season in such a deep funk. They are not playing like true Yankees. They have the talent to win and they are not winning. I expect Joe Torre, his complete coaching staff and the team to turn this around."

...more...
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cruadin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 04:08 PM
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10. Time for all Red Sox fans to sit back and enjoy the show.
Edited on Sun Apr-17-05 04:32 PM by cruadin
:)


edit <clarity>
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 04:20 PM
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11. I read that
interesting.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 09:11 PM
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13. mmm
:popcorn:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:46 AM
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15. The Oregonian carried this piece today.
George is great entertainment, even out here along the ring of fire.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 08:10 PM
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12. George has mellowed
in years past, Torre would be gone by now.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:29 AM
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14. We've been through this shit before with Baron Von Steingrabber
in the spring.

And frankly, for me, it's irrelevant. I don't care where the Yankees are in April or May - I care where they are in September/October.

:evilfrown:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:59 AM
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16. NOT a Yaknee fan but I think they relaxed the grip of his turtlenecks
He seems to have mellowed a bit....hold it wait what is this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x13349
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