Welcome Nebraska to America's Premier Athletic and Academic Conference!!

[Condem]

Despite the the whiners about expansion and the folks who we're just flat out wrong about this whole deal, I KNOW I speak for a ton of us here. It's great to have you aboard. I consider it an honor to have Big Red!!

[happyiowan]

1. Go Huskers! Or should I say....

come hither you Huskers? What a great natural rivalry for Iowa.

[El Supremo]

2. Buh Bye! And good riddance to those whiny-ass poor losers.

[Condem]

4. Um.....El.

Your Colorado Buffaloes left first.

[El Supremo]

6. Boy, you got that wrong.

I may live in Coloradio, but I went to UT (and UTA & UTD).

[Condem]

7. Have fun out west, El.

With USC out of the picture for the next two years, at least you got a shot at a bowl game.

[LisaM]

3. No, I do NOT welcome them

Maybe you don't care, but my eyes are watering up, with pain and frustration. How can this be?

I hate, hate, hate this. Screw Jim Delaney.

They are NOT welcome, and I hope they do their next conference jump soon. What kind of a team are they? They were already willing to scrap their traditional rivalry with Oklahoma, which does not bode well for the type of conference member they will be.

[Condem]

5. Of course you care, LisaM.

Because when the Huskers come to Ann Arbor, it will be the FIRST time Michigan fans will be outnumbered in the Big House.

[Liberal_Dog]

8. OU-Nebraska Wasn't Actually A "Rivalry"

It was usually an important game for the Big 8 Title.

But there wasn't really any animosity between the two schools.

I hated Texas and Oklahoma State but not Nebraska. I think most OU fans felt pretty much the same way.

I think Nebraska will be a good fit for the Big Ten.

[Condem]

9. The greatest college football game ever played was OU-Nebraska, Liberal.

1971? 35-31. I still remember that game. Johnny Rodgers. But of late. Not a rivalry. When the Texas teams came in it quickly ended that.

[happyiowan]

11. Looks to me like when the Texas teams came in...

they ended a lot of stuff.

[fishwax]

13. It wasn't just the formation of the Big 12, but also the timing of it

OU-Nebraska was a great (though, as Liberal_Dog notes) respectful rivalry through the 1980s, but after Switzer left the Sooners it became very one-sided for a while. Gary Gibbs went 1-5 against Nebraska, and Schnellenberger and John Blake went 0-3, including a 37-0 shutout and a painfully embarrassing loss at home in which the Huskers scored 70+.

So when the the Big 12 scheduled rotated away from OU-Nebraska in 1998, the Cornhuskers reached out to OU to keep the rivalry alive as a non-conference game for those two years. Oklahoma said thanks, but we think we'll maybe take a break. (Couple of years later, the Sooners hired Bob Stoops, and we've gone 5-2 against the Huskers since. :) )

[KamaAina]

45. Why couldn't they have preserved it, like the SEC did with Georgia-Auburn?

They make sure that game is on each school's interdivisional schedule every year.

[Liberal_Dog]

19. It Sure Was

I watched the game online a couple of years ago.

Two fantastic teams.

[madinmaryland]

14. I'm with you Lisa. I loathe the thought of a Big eighth team joining the venerated

Big 10. No matter what Condem says, it will not fell like real big 10 rivalries when Nebraska comes to town.

[New Dawn]

16. NU's rivalry with OU ended with the formation of the Big12.

When the Big12 was formed, NU and OU were only scheduled to play twice every four years. The yearly big game was ended then.

[LisaM]

34. I get that, and that's why I hate expansion

I looked forward to that game every year. I challenge the integrity of either school, willingly giving that up.

[madinmaryland]

35. That does seem really odd that the AD's would give up such a popular game.

[joeglow3]

69. Nebraska tried to keep it

They wanted to play 2 years of conference games and then 2 years of non-conference games. Oklahoma did not want it (remember, this was in the 1990's and the balance of power tilted clearly toward the North). Additionally, I don't think the conference (aka, Texas) wanted it.

Nebraska fought like crazy to keep it and fought Texas at every turn in the conference (when the other 10 schools willingly lubed themselves up for Texas). The reason they are leaving the conference is BECAUSE OF their integrity.

[New Dawn]

17. Besides football, NU has good women's volleyball and women's basketball teams.

The men's basketball team is terrible, but no one really cares about that sport here. The baseball team is better though.

[hughee99]

75. They could always play Oklahoma in a non-conference game

instead of beating up on 1-AA teams like Appalachian St. :evilgrin:

[Condem]

10. Wow. We start playing NU next year!!

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten Fucking awesome!!

[Condem]

12. For you doubters of getting Big Red, I give you this

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=5277787 ND is next.

[New Dawn]

15. Great news for the Big Ten and Nebraska

[Auggie]

18. Does this mean MAC teams will no longer have play Big 10 teams?

An automatic loss -- seemed unfair to me

[madinmaryland]

21. You mean Notre Dame will not be playing Big Ten teams anymore!

:evilgrin:

[madinmaryland]

20. Fuck Nebraska and Delaney. NT

[Condem]

22. Since you haven't been right about a damn thing in this whole deal...

...I'll give you another opportunity before Rutgers and ND come aboard. Here's my prediction for the two divisions:
Rustbelt Division
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Indiana
Purdue
Illinois

Farmland Division
Penn State
Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Minnesota

What you say, loser?

[madinmaryland]

23. Nebraska?? Reminds me of Jim Mora's comments a few years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

Replace "playoffs" with "nebraska"

[Condem]

24. Yup. I figured you beg out of any type of challenge.

One other thing, though.... you've been on the east coast too long. You don't have the Big Ten mentality. Not even close. Stick with your ACC.

[madinmaryland]

26. I'm sorry, but I have to call bullshit on that condem.

You don't even know what big-10 mentality is. If you did, we would not be having this conversation. Maybe you should go back to pimping the conference of one you were trying to sell us on a few months back.

Douche.

[Condem]

28. The use of the word "douche".

So motherfucking common, but so juvenile around this place. The truth will sting a bit, mad. You are a follower. You have no leadership instincts. You follow the lead of trumad or forkboy (but he seems to be gone, now). For just once, maybe, we can see the true mad and he well make a point on his own. I doubt it, though. One of the herd.

[madinmaryland]

29. I see that you did not deny what I said and what you did say is merely pointless.

I will say it again: You have no idea what the Big 10 mentality is.

eom.

[Condem]

30. LOL. What a great answer!!!

I have no idea what the Big Ten mentality is? Upton does. I'll let him answer it.

[madinmaryland]

31. Since you have no idea what the Big 10 mentality is, how can you say that

someone on the internets does not have the big 10 mentality.

Maybe you need to go take another hit of the spray paint again.

[Condem]

32. internets? big ten?

What in the fuck?

[madinmaryland]

33. You went for the gold tonight??

:shrug:

[happyiowan]

25. Mad, I suppose you would get mad.....

if I were to suggest anger management. ?

[madinmaryland]

27. I'm still pissed off about the swift boat liars...

:mad:

[Dr Morbius]

39. I'd suggest putting Penn State in the "rustbelt" division, moving Illinois to the other one.

Penn State is near Pittsburgh, I think, and it doesn't get much rustier than that! Also, Northwestern is in Chicago, and having both Illinois-based teams in one division makes some sense to me.

Ah, the increasingly misnamed Big Ten.

[LisaM]

36. I agree

words can't express. It sucks, sucks, sucks. Maybe Michigan and Ohio State should just refuse to schedule them. That might open some eyes.

[MadBadger]

37. Whats the BFD about Nebraska?

[LisaM]

38. The BFD is changing the Big Ten

I just read that the jackass commissioner claims to have had his eye on Nebraska for 20 years!

God, send this guy back to Carolina already. He has no business tramping on our traditions.

I cannot understand how an alumna or alumnus of ANY Big Ten School (except interloping Penn State) is okay with this.

[MadBadger]

40. Many Many alumnus of big ten schools have been wanting a championship game for years

So I can easily see how theyd be fine with it. Again, i can understand your argument better if the Big Ten has 14 or 16, but not at all with 12. The rivalries will still be there, and will expand with Nebraska. And your comments at Penn State are ridiculous

[LisaM]

41. The rivalries are already being dismantled

Michigan didn't play Minnesota last year and we won't play Minnesota this year and that rivalry has existed since 1916. Nebraska is clearly willing to deep six its rivalry with Oklahoma. No one I know likes having Penn State in the league and wants them to go away. In fact, they were willing to let go of the Pitt game (longstanding backyard rivalry) and the kooky Land Grant Trophy is beyond a joke.

Of all the many people in my family and extended family and whom I know personally, only ONE, ONE likes this move, and she has no basis in fact, just sort of vaguely thinks it's a good idea.

You want college football to expand to 15 or 16 games a year?

How can you say the rivalries will all remain intact, when Michigan has three and they aren't even being honored NOW?

[MadBadger]

42. Then why include Nebraska in your diatribe? And the Big 12 were the ones who killed the OK rivalry

They play every other year now instead of every other year.

I just cant help but think that your stuck in the past. I on the other hand dont know anybody who even cares anymore whether or not Penn State is in the Big Ten. Thats just the way it has been for twenty years and its time for you to get over that.

Oh yea, and the sheer amount of rivalry games that some teams have is just too ridiculous anyway. Michigan and Minnesota is only a rivalry because they have some dinky trophy. There really is no rivalry besides everybody wanting to beat Michigan. You will get to keep the rivalries that matter. Ohio State-Michigan, Wisconsin-Minnesota, those are the ones that matter.

[LisaM]

43. Loving tradition does not equal stuck in the past

There are new traditions I like too, and one includes the jumparound at Camp Randall.

However, I think these rotating affiliations can't do anything but hurt college athletics (even though football is driving this, there will be a lot of other ramifications, many of which are unforeseen).

The way it was done in the past was generally good. The proposed way is bad, and will get worse. Alumni seem to have no voice. The jackass commissioner of the Big Ten admits that these plans have been lurking in his pea brain for 20 years.

No good will come of this. CHANGE does not equal GOOD. Many things have changed for the worse in the last 20 years, not just in sports. To deride the Big Ten experience many of us enjoyed, to crush things we hold dear, well, I'd expect better of people who went to Big Ten schools. It is the oldest athletic conference.

Oh, and go ahead and make fun of the Little Brown Jug. Who cares? If you think it's so dinky, you clearly do not get the story behind it.

[trumad]

44. Loving tradition does not equal stuck in the past

Except on Thanksgiving Thursday.

;-)

[madinmaryland]

46. nice post, cboy4!

Douche!

:hi:

[LisaM]

47. I have to admire the stick-to-it-ive-ness of that refrain

Mad, I'm beginning to think that only Michigan and Ohio State fans seem to get the tradition of the Big Ten. Clearly loyalty stops at the west coast of Lake Michigan (though I haven't heard Northwestern weigh in - I'll do it on their behalf, my mom went there and is against expansion).

[MadBadger]

48. Spoken like a true OSU or Michigan fan...always about them.

[madinmaryland]

50. A true Big 10 fan would have seen that nebraska is not a true fit in the league.

Now there were a lot of true fans that could see a Notre Dame or a Pitt as a natural fit into the league.

But nebraska?

:wtf:

Better to let Iowa go than to let nebraska into teh league.

[MadBadger]

51. The only place I've seen anybody trash the Nebraska move is a few here.

Everybody else seems to like it.

[Condem]

52. Once again, mad, you've been incredibly consistant in this whole deal..

...You've been fucking wrong on every issue. Now. You two whiners do me a favor and become a fan of the kiss-ass Big 12. The way those fuckers groveled to Texas' wishes is just a fucking shame. What a bunch of weak fuck stick schools. Let's see where all this TV money comes from.

[madinmaryland]

53. Would you and your sockpuppet just lay off the spray paint can.

It's getting fucking old with you and yourself harping on this issue. You and your sockpuppet don't even seem to have a clue as to what league/conference you are trying to bash.

[Condem]

54. You and LisaM are the ONLY fuckers against adding Nebraska.

Which means 99.999999995% of us love the move. So go add your opinion to the Big 12. It's where you belong. Kissing El's ass.

[madinmaryland]

55. That's the most incredibly stupid thing that I have seen.

If anyone has the Big 12 mentality it is you and your sockpuppet.

As a REAL Big 10 fan, I am disappointed that we have allowed nebraska into the league. Though I suppose, you and your sockpuppet are happy to see your father's team not allowed into the Big 10 (which you and your sockpuppet spent endless posts here pimping into the Big 10).

You and yourself are a pathetic representation of Big 10 fans.

[Condem]

56. Why do I respond, you fucking idiot???

Listen, dumbass. Part of the Big Ten expansion was to make us relevant in December- ie., a playoff. We added a 12th team. We will now have a conference championship. Perhaps, make us better in the Bowls. You, you stupid fuck. You had us adding Pitt. What a fucking program! We added THE best program we could get. Better than Notre Dame. Better than Texas. You don't have an iota of sense to admit it.

[MadBadger]

57. Not sure how you can honestly say Nebraska is a Better program than Texas, but whatever...

Dont wanna get on your bad side apparently

[Condem]

60. It's not, Mad.

But, geographically and every other way, this was the best move. I'll say it again. Nebraska was a better move than ND. The Big Ten kisses nobody's ass.

[madinmaryland]

58. God-damn! You would make KKKarl Rove proud with that response..

And you know exactly what the fuck I am talking about. Go back and re-read all of your posts about this from three months ago.

eom.

[trotsky]

59. LMAO

I love this forum. :rofl: Nice work, Condem!

[Condem]

61. Thanks, trotsky.

BTW. It's never anything personal.

[trotsky]

62. Except when it's Iowa-Minnesota week.

Then the gloves are off, pal.

[Condem]

63. For the first time, we are playing after Thanksgiving, trotsky.

November 27. Happy and I are thinking of making the trip north. Can you score some tickets in that new stadium of yours?

[trotsky]

65. My cousin's husband has season tix.

He put up with several years of Dome games just to make sure he was high on the list. So unfortunately he doesn't part with them easily - but he hates WI more than IA so you never know!

[Condem]

66. You score me a couple, you will drink on me.

BTW. We're not the loud and obnoxious types. I just want to see the Gopher's new digs. I hear it's awesome.

[Condem]

68. Never mind, Trotsky.

The wife's family will be in town.

[LisaM]

70. Not at all

it's the fans of the other schools that seem willing to sacrifice the traditions. I'm just pointing out that in this case, Michigan and Ohio State agree. Frankly, I have been quite surprised to see fans of other schools (not all of them) championing this bad move. Don't you feel any loyalty to the oldest sports conference? Doesn't Wisconsin have any cherished old time traditions? I've already spoken of rivalries Michigan has with two other schools besides OSU, and just get treated dismissively - oh, the Minnesota rivalry is in the past. Well, of course it has its roots in the past. That's what makes it a great tradition.

I am just baffled by the reaction here. My SO's father graduated from Illinois in 1948. We have his college yearbook, and one of the most fun things in it is reading the game summaries of the football team's Big Ten season. I loved the continuity and grace of that; now, it will be as if that was a different world all together.

[JonLP24]

71. When your SO's father graduated in '48

Did he protest the move by the Big 10 adding Michigan State in 1950? It may be the oldest sports conference but it certainly hasn't always been the same.

The reason why they didn't play Minnesota is because of the rotating conference schedules that they've had since I remembered. They are designed that way so they do play everyone in a course of 5 years or so while keeping the main rivalries intact such as Michigan-Ohio State. Michigan-Minnesota didn't play 10 years ago because of the rotating conference schedules.

[LisaM]

72. The Michigan State situation was entirely different

as you must know. The University of Chicago left after they dropped their football program, and the conference needed a replacement team. In fact (though Michigan State fans now will never admit it), it was Notre Dame that gave MSU the legitimacy to be considered by adding them to their schedule. I think (I'd have to look it up), MSU was still MAC at the time.

None of us liked adding Penn State, though.

[JonLP24]

73. You're right

My point was throughout its history, there have been changes. That's all I was saying.

I have no clue what the initial reaction was for Penn St so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. However you must be proud the way Penn St has raised the bar for volleyball in the Big Ten as well as the whole country.

[LisaM]

74. I've watched the Penn State women's volleyball team

the Big Ten Network did not (surprise!) live up to its promise that we would see a lot of womens' sports, but they do seem to show the PSU volleyball team a lot.

We always thought that JoPa planned to come in and dominate the Big Ten and get big Rose Bowl bucks every year, and no one cried when it didn't work out quite that way for him. In fact, I remember cheering to the rafters the year Northwestern beat them to go to the Rose Bowl.

Of course, then the Rose Bowl alliance was undone, and I think JoPa had a hand in that, too.

[MadBadger]

49. Plenty of Michigan Fans at this site Like the move

http://mgoblog.com/content/nebraska-big-ten-official#comments

You have to have your head in the sand if you think that there isnt a substantial amount of people who like having Nebraska in the Big Ten

[happyiowan]

64. Oh why, oh why

do I let myself get sucked into these debates? Okay, let's see if I can take a crack at it from my perspective. And maybe you should all question my Big 10 creds since I'm also an SEC fan. Oh, and question me too because I happen to be a bit of a fan of Nebraska. So, there's my caveats.

Notre Dame was always the natural choice. And those of us happy about Nebraska won't deny that. They were a geographically natural fit, sitting as they are in the middle of the conference. Geo-graph-i-cal. The Big Ten has wooed Notre Dame for many years. No matter the flowers and candy, they always wanted the money that they could have to themselves as an independent. The only way for Notre Dame to join the Big Ten at this time (at this time, is all I'm saying 'cause you'll never convince me that day ain't comin'.) is if the conference made some sort of horrid concessions like those that Texas has been granted.

Maybe it's different over there to the east, but when I look to my direct west, I see Nebraska. A football tradition of its own accord, not dissimilar to Notre Dame in that aspect. And if you're looking to take the conference to an even number so that you can have two divisions and hence a play-off then for heaven's sake, why wouldn't it be Nebraska?

I hear arguments against Nebraska based on the potential for breaking up someone or another's sacred traditions. I think there is room for both and that Nebraska offer that opportunity.

[Condem]

67. Kicking. For my wife.

A lot more educated than meself.