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Mon Apr-13-09 09:14 PM
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What's this about Top Gun being gay? |
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I mean, aren't all buddy films essentially gay? I've recently learned that Top Gun is considered to be especially gay, though. Help me out here.
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:15 PM
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:15 PM
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3. But why this particular film and not all his others? |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:16 PM
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7. It's got lots of locker room scenes, guys in towels, shirtless, playing vollyball, etc. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:18 PM
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11. How is that different from Brian's Song? wait. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:15 PM
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2. It looked like a two hour ad for the International Male catalogue. Even Pauline Kael thought so. |
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Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 09:16 PM by Captain Hilts
"Test Pilot" with Gable and Tracy is "the one where Myrna Loy and I are in love with Gable," as Tracy described it - accurately.
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:16 PM
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5. You mean the naked volleyball game? |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:20 PM
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12. Tracy was gay. So was Katherine Hepburn. Their affair was lavender. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:35 PM
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17. William Mann's book was so full of made-up stuff I don't know where to begin.. |
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but I'll begin with the stories he made up about the contents of their FBI files.
If he'll lie about a public document...
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Mon Apr-13-09 10:23 PM
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23. Don't spoil all the fun right when I'm getting into Top Gun! |
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Tue Apr-14-09 07:51 AM
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25. You'll just LOVE Top Gun! |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:16 PM
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:17 PM
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One scene, though - how does that make the whole film gay???!!!
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:16 PM
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:17 PM
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8. Oh, gee. I never thought about that one. nt |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:22 PM
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13. Neither did I, until I saw this thread. hahahaha! |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:17 PM
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10. Is that a line in the movie? It sounds like something out of Proust. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:23 PM
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14. Ah. You've never seen the movie. Yah - that's one of the quotables. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:27 PM
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16. Actually, I've seen it, but it's been a long time. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:26 PM
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15. The volleyball scene. Come on. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 09:58 PM
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18. oh it's gay all right -- |
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the whole vibe -- the objectifying of male beauty -- especially for the mainstream that was new.
buddy films speak for themselves.
the camera work treating male faces like -- lingeringly -- that was new -- on and on.
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Mon Apr-13-09 10:09 PM
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19. Gay no, homoerotic... perhaps... I still hate Tom Cruise though... |
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Wed Apr-15-09 02:17 PM
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Mon Apr-13-09 10:09 PM
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20. This explains everything. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 10:22 PM
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22. Very interesting. So that's why Goose has to die. |
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Goose has to die so that Maverick can become straight and pair up with Kelly McGillis. It makes sense.
Maverick has a date with the girl but he can't drag himself away from the naked volleyball game, so he's very late to his date, and nothing happens during the date anyway.
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Tue Apr-14-09 07:53 AM
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26. Just like Tracy has to die so Gable can be with Myrna Loy. |
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Mon Apr-13-09 10:13 PM
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21. Top Gun is gayer than lightning. |
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:32 AM
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24. Sweaty men ride phallic machinery to prove the biggest tool wins... |
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...the girl.
What's not to love?
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Wed Apr-15-09 02:38 AM
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And yeah, you have a point about buddy films in general being fairly gay, but Top Gun is in a class by itself. Let's just say that movie was my introduction to the whole concept of slash, at the tender age of 14. Just...holy god that movie is gay.
Of course, now that I'm older and far less naive, I see gay everywhere in movies, even when I don't want to. I maintain Ouiser and Claree from Steel Magnolias were at the very least hetero life partners.
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Wed Apr-15-09 09:58 AM
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28. I can't wait to see it again. It sounds better than the Wind in the Willows! |
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Thank you for posting here today. :hug:
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Wed Apr-15-09 05:10 PM
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30. Watch out. I brought this up last year about the same movie and... |
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was arrested by the syntax police for saying "gay movie" instead of one of their pre-authorized terms.
Then when I had the audacity to not genuflect before their superior gay sensibilities, then a couple of them lobbied Skinner to ban me. I was excommunicated, and my gay ID card as well as toaster oven were confiscated.
Ever since then, I don't drop in here much. So much for "inclusivity".:eyes:
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Wed Apr-15-09 05:34 PM
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31. TOTALLY gay -- especially the volleyball scene |
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Thu Apr-16-09 10:27 PM
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33. What can I say? I'm slow. |
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:23 PM
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32. I've seen greco-roman wrestling matches that were less homoerotic. |
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