I make no apologies and neither should anyone else here when we support our own

[La Lioness Priyanka]

It doesn't matter whether we are talking about politicians, american idol singers, charities, volunteer organizations, hair salons, whatever.

We have an obligation to support our community and our kids. So yeah, maybe he is just a singer on America Idol, but there are dozens of gay kids watching him. They should know that an OUT gay person cannot just be voted off because some churches unite against him.

We are an oppressed minority and this is not a fucking culture war. It's our lives and the lives of the next generation of queers and it doesnt matter to me whether its a big thing or a small thing, in all things I will support my community.

[meegbear]

1. K & R with a bullet!!

[bluestateguy]

2. I applaud your convictions

But when it comes to American Idol, I will vote for the best singer. And I am not yet convinced that Mr. Lambert is that person.

[grasswire]

3. I have yet to see any support for the assertion...

....that fundies are organized against Adam. Got any links?

I like Adam. I think he's a sweet young man with a lot of talent.

I just am opposed to the idea of turning a simple singing competition into something else.

[Hissyspit]

7. Some fundamentalist group called Mothers for something or other has been

organizing an effort to keep people from voting for him because he is a "bad role model." I can't remember their name or find a link, but I saw it here on the site last week.

[Hissyspit]

10. Here's a previous thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=128057&mesg_id=128057

[grasswire]

I've investigated those and I see nothing

One anonymous message on a message board talks about church people voting against Adam because of his sexual orientation.

There's NOTHING ELSE that displays any discrimination against him.

There are stories about people supporting Gokey and Kris because they want to, for positive reasons. There is NOTHING else (except here on DU) about an effort of religious people voting against Adam for cultural or political reasons.

NOTHING.

[Hissyspit]

37. I saw the website.

I can't find a link. I'll keep looking.

[sui generis]

24. look to the OP though, the point being

it already IS something else, and we didn't make it that way. At this point everyone left has warts and tiaras.

I WANT to vote for the best person, but if the votes are already skewed by fascist xtian groups gaming the vote, then it was already "something else" from before I voted or even saw it.

Adam has amazing musicality; what I don't like is overbaking his exposition/development on the way to his coda, where the power of his upper octave gets a little pushy and strident and the music gets muddy. The hot sauce should accent the meal, not BE the meal.

Having said that, Danny-boy sounds like every other xtian rocker-crooner I've ever heard doing "best of" album infomercials in the wee hours. He seems like a nice kid, and he has shining moments, but I have NOT heard him say or deny or have an opinion about the supposed christians who are propping his vote, and that's ugly and immoral to me; that's the Danny wart.

If we REALLY believe in letting the best person win then we should only get one single vote the entire season - at the very end.

:shrug:

but first place is not about being the BEST singer - just the most well liked singer. Face it, he's already won and his star is going to far outshine Danny whatsisname's forgettable devotional crooning.

[jonnyblitz]

4. I texted votes for him last week and this week and will do the

same next week. I don't pay attention to or get angry at what others say here about it because I was always the first one to roll my eyes over any discussion American Idol related. :P

Seriously though, lots of what he sings and his over-emoting are not my style but the kid can belt out a tune like nobody else.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. i dont really care about straight people who deign to tell us this is not important enough

how should they know? do they lack in any civil rights? do they face homophobia on a day to day basis like we do?

stupid idiots

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. Excuse me, but are you sayng that gays need affirmative action

because they are underrepresented in the arts?

Really??

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. where in this did you hear affirmative action? really?

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. Hey, it was a joke, ok? We all know the arts wouldn't exist - at least

as we know them - if not for the high proportion of gays involved in them.

I didn't see, and haven't heard (because I haven't paid any attention to American Idol since, oh, forever) that there was a move to vote him out by fundies - and having seen that referenced in other posts here I think it only fair to organize a pushback. What I saw in your post was just a "let's all get behind him because he's gay" post, which struck me as a little weird.

My comment was loosely based on the old "To Be or Not To Be" script, where the theater manager, finding out the Nazis are arresting Jews and gays, says "without Jews and gays, there IS no theater!"

My apologies about the misunderstanding.

[SacredCow]

9. No... She's saying that when fundies come out en masse...

to vote AGAINST a particular person because of his sexuality, it's only natural that the GLBT community will respond in kind.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but it just MIGHT make it even.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

11. That's not what she's saying, but feel free to spin it that way

It's never stopped you before.

:eyes:

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. Please see my post #22 above.

And when have I ever expressed anti-gay sentiments in the past? Ever?

[JackBeck]

12. Excuse me, but are you saying that gays should NOT organize a response

to Right-Wing bigots when they actively engage in efforts to further marginalize our community?

[Duncan Grant]

14. Thanks for your turd of a post.

No, that's not what she's saying and you know it.

Try again.

[SacredCow]

13. Thank you, Lioness!!!! K&R....

When ethnic groups come together to fight oppression, it's hailed as a great leap in civil rights... When gay people do the same exact fucking thing, it's a culture war that is being waged by poutraged fags that just want a pony.

[mitchtv]

43. you got a way with words , sacredCow

he'll get at leas a dozen voted from me.

[Glorfindel]

15. Well said, and thank you

Recommended.

[Chovexani]

16. k&r

I despise AI and everything it stands for and I've been voting my ass off for this guy.

This is about more than a karaoke competition.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. yeah me too. AI was one of the reasons i got cable. the coup de grace was hannah montana though

[Inspired]

17. I support Adam because he is the BEST.

He also appears to be a really nice guy. His dad always looks at him with a lot of pride from the audience! It warms my heart.

[Duncan Grant]

18. No more Mr. Nice Gay.

Hey DUers, I have an idea. Let's vilify gay people for responding to inane moralistic lunacy. Let's not condemn the source of the moralistic arrogance, let's chastise queer people for drawing so much attention to themselves (blah, blah, blah...).

Righteous thread, Pri. Sing it loud, long and strong. :applause:

[dbonds]

20. Here here.

I'm am getting sick of these people that keep telling us to sit down, shut up, and take it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. you know if you are a straight person who cares about the fucking "integrity" of american idol

then DON'T VOTE for adam but dont fucking tell us what can be or cant be important to us.

[Rhythm]

29. Damn right, dbonds.

:hi:

[soleiri]

25. I vote for him because he's the best

I think he's an amazing singer, one of the best new singers I've heard in or outside of AI.
If he gets through to next week, I'm buying a go phone so I can text for him.
If I had more money, I'd buy 4 go phones so my whole family can text for him.
As a mother of two teenage sons who are a little different (theater kids) and who aren't ashamed of being different, I think Adam is a wonderful role model. He's worked hard at his craft and I can't stand the idea the fundies are organizing to take away his dream.

if you do have at&t, you can send multiple texts at the same time, btw. 10 at a time, I think.

[imdjh]

26. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think he will win and I don't think it's because he's gay

I have only watched the show once this season, last night. Adam was terrific, and the best singer there. But winning this contest is more than talent, it's appeal. I watched all three guys and feel certain that the last one, the one who sang and played the guitar will win.

Adam is a great singers, and will be a star whether he wins or loses this contest. I predict that Adam will be asked to join or front for an aging but successful band.

The guy in the middle is a schmo, destined for golf rock at best, or back up for Michael Bolton.

The third guy has the girl vote. He's sexless enough for the young ones and sexy enough for the older ones. He's got that "just rolled out of bed" look that some people think is really sexy and he kind of whines when he sings, so he's right in there with a lot of the popular music. He's pretty and harmless- Adam is bold and mischievous.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. we cant win everything but we shouldnt be afraid of trying

that was my point. i make no apologies for wanting my community to do better.

[imdjh]

31. i'm with you on that. Rooting for Adam.

And I don't think it's lost on him that there are lots of gay young people out there who would benefit from seeing a person who never gives up actually seeing the payoff, and not hiding in the closet for ten years before coming out. I don't think Adam had a choice actually, as he was pretty well known apparently before he entered the contest and his pics are all over the web, but he wouldn't have been the first to down play that or pull the "none of anyone's business" routine.

Disclaimer - the names of several male celebrities both in and out of the closet were deliberately not mentioned in this post.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

love your disclaimer

:)

[Rhythm]

28. Dumb question, but... what do you text, and to what number?

I've not watched a full episode of AI since the second season, but i have been frequenting YouTube, and have heard a lot of Adam's songs. He's outstanding, and i'm looking forward to hearing him get ahold of some original material.

So... as someone who has NEVER cast a vote for an AI contestant, how do i do it?
What do i text, and what number do i text it to?

[jonnyblitz]

30. in the body of the text you type "vote" and you send it to a 4

digit number they provide on the show,the last 4 digits of the phone number provided. you have from 9pm to 11pm to vote as many times as you like.

[soleiri]

34. you can only text

if you have at&t. it's a different number each night. for texting it is only the first number of the night. For example last night he was the 3rd. contestant, so his text number ended in 03. You can also send multiple texts at the same time.

[Rhythm]

49. Damn... i'm on Sprint.

*pouts*

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[La Lioness Priyanka]

33. please resurrect my friends first

[dbonds]

38. Thumbs - up!

I approve of this post.

[Shell Beau]

39. Ha!

:thumbsup:

That couldn't have happened more perfectly.

[Duncan Grant]

40. From your lips to God's ears.

:)

[SacredCow]

41. ...

:applause:

[jonnyblitz]

42. i love you, pri!

:loveya: :D

[bigwillq]

44. Indeed.

:thumbsup:

[Two Americas]

45. .

:hug:

[tbyg52]

46. I heartily recommend this post.

Edited to add:

And the OP as well. :thumbsup: :applause:

[mtnester]

48. ...

:)

[Rhythm]

51. Damn right!

:patriot:

[Lyric]

52. +10000000000000000000000

:loveya:

[Zenlitened]

53. Bam!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

:yourock:

[Starry Messenger]

54. This.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. or give me a yes/no answer on my group request for sexual minorities

[GodlessBiker]

36. Thank you, Sister. Well said.

[indigo32]

47. right there with ya

excellent post

[FreeState]

50. Watch the live results show now at this link

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/American-Idol-Extra-Live-Marathon