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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:44 AM
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Fred Phelps A Gay Plant?
http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/08/081605phelps.htm

The head of an Illinois group fighting same-sex marriage and partner benefits says he wonders if militant anti-gay preacher Fred Phelps is actually a gay plant.

Phelps who runs the God Hates Fags website and whose followers regularly demonstrate at gay friendly churches first came to national attention when he protested at the funeral Matthew Shepard.

Since then conservative Christian groups have been mostly silent but now, the Phelps clan is picketing at the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq. (story)


oh my gods, this is the funniest thing I've ever read
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:48 AM
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1. Oh, come ON.
That's just about the silliest thing I've ever read.

I've seen that fucker and his brood in person. They're for real. They're no damn "plant"
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:50 AM
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2. Projection, projection, projection.
Whenever they get wind of just how nasty one of their own is they try to find a way to fob him off on us and claim that he's one of ours. Suck it up, assholes. He's all yours.
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:50 AM
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3. Of course he is! So was A. Hitler, who was also Jewish, by the way...
Dear Lord, the contortions these christofascists will go through. If they weren't so dangerous, they'd be comical.

:crazy:
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foxeyes2 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:50 AM
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4. Phelps a gay plant
LaBabera is nuts if he actually thinks that the gay community put Phelps up to his hate mongering. He complains about how it makes anti-gay activists look bad. Well how about not opposing equality for all?That would make him look good but no he thinks it is okay to discriminate. What a maroon as Bugs would say.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:51 AM
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5. Ugh
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 10:51 AM by Harvey Korman
Nevertheless, on Monday, Illinois Family Institute Executive Director Peter LaBarbera issued a statement denouncing Phelps.

"Fred Phelps' curious message is hardly Christian, and only fuels societal bigotry toward those who espouse genuine Biblical views on social issues like homosexuality and abortion," LaBarbera's statement said.


You ARE the bigots, dipshit. :grr:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:44 PM
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9. You said it, Hedy!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:06 PM
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10. Head-leh! HEAD-leh! HEEAAAAD-LEEEEHHHH!!!
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 05:07 PM by Harvey Korman
:+ Hi ronny :)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:37 PM
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11. I love doing that !!


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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:51 AM
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6. Obviously the folks in the land of Lincoln
think old fred is a bad man doing bad things to their fellow Americans. Please would someone tell me where in the Constitution it states gays can not marry.

Note to religious haters: The constitution is a shield not a weapon.

Don't tell anyone but bush is a democratic plant in the republican party to MAKE THEM LOOK BAD. Did we hit the jackpot?
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:55 AM
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7. A gay plant?
A homo heliotrope?
A faggy fuschia?
A swishy snapdragon?
A pansy ... ummmm ... pansy?

No doubt Freddie and his whole inbred traveling roadshow 'klan' have the combined IQ of a plant, but I don't think Freddie puts the 'mary' in marigold!
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:59 AM
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8. Here's a link they need to know about
http://www.blank.org/addict/orig.addict.html

The guy is sick. He's one of them.


CHAPTER TWO

"Daddy's Hands"

Mark Phelps feels nauseated whenever he remembers that night. He was hit over 60 times and his brother, Nate, over 200 with a mattock handle. Nate went into shock. Mark didn't. A boy who became a compulsive counter to handle the stress, Mark counted every stroke. His and Nate's. While their father screamed obscenities and his brother screamed in pain. Every 20 strokes, their mother wiped their faces off in the tub. Nate passed out anyway. That was Christmas Day.

--snip--

"My father," says the 39 year-old, now a parent himself, "is addicted to hate. Why? I can't say. But I know he has to let it out. As rage. In doing so, he has violated the sacred trust of a parent and a pastor. "I'm not trying to hurt my father. And I'm not trying to save him. I'm going to tell what happened because I've decided it's the only way I can overcome my past: to drag it into the light and break its chains."

Mark believes that Fred Phelps, no longer able to hate and abuse his adult children if he hopes to keep them near, by necessity now must turn all his protean anger outward against his community. Mark has decided to tell the truth about his father so that others will be warned. He and his brother have now come forward with specific and detailed stories, alarming tales, ones that could be checked and have been verified. Mark's testimony supports Nate's previously, and both men's statements have been confirmed by a third Phelps' child. In addition, the Capital-Journal has uncovered documents which substantiate this testimony, and interviewed dozens of relevant witnesses who have confirmed much of this information. "One of my earliest memories...," the voice in the phone pauses, painful to remember: "was the big ol' German shepherd that belonged to our neighbors. One day it was in our yard and my father went out and blew it apart with his shotgun."
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:31 PM
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12. That's funny.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 10:32 PM by Meldread
On gay issues they have the exact same position as Freddie. The only difference is the fact that Fred is up front and honest about his hate, they try and sugar coat theirs and use some politically correct words. "You are going to hell, gay-boy! Unless, of course, you begin donating to the Republican Party, you begin donating to us, and you stop all of your icky-sex stuff in the privacy of your own home. Then, just maybe, JUST MAYBE, we'll give you the same status and look that we give to former rapists, murderers, and child molesters."

Post number #8... my god... I never thought I'd feel sorry for anyone in the Phelps clan. However, after reading some of that stuff... even my icy heart has melted for some of them. Just a little bit, but it melted a tiny little bit nonetheless.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:30 AM
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13. Oh, wait, wait, wait . . . gays are now to *blame* for Phelps?
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Oh, wait, wait, wait . . . gays are now to *blame* for Phelps? This gets funnier and funnier. The neo-cons are so damn busy projecting their psychological baggage upon all that they are unaware of how stupid it sounds?

First, Rick Santorum *blames* the liberalism of Massachusetts' academic community (i.e., Harvard, MIT, etc.) for priests sexually abusing Roman Catholic kids, and now so-called conservative "christian" groups are blaming gays for Fred Phelps and his adult children spreading their self-loathing hate and discontent across America too?

This gets better and better. The neo-cons are eating themselves alive! Well if anybody deserves first-rate cannibalism, it's the neo-cons. Pity, huh?



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