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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:08 PM
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Missouri Lawmaker’s Argument Against Repealing DADT: It Would Be A ‘Cultural Affront’ To Terrorists
Missouri Lawmaker’s Argument Against Repealing DADT: It Would Be A ‘Cultural Affront’ To The Terrorists

Missouri State Senator Gary Nodler

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Nodler said that “being openly gay in the military ‘in and of itself‘ could be grounds for a sexual harassment complaint by another serviceman, and characterized Don’t Ask Don’t Tell as a way to accommodate gays’ service ‘in a way that doesn’t create a hostile workplace.’” Then, Nodler suggested that allowing openly gay soldiers in the military “could represent a ‘cultural affront‘” to terrorists intent on killing American troops.

The Muslim nations of Iraq and Afghanistan, where America is fighting two wars, are opposed to homosexuality. Changing “Don’t ask, don’t tell” would offend the terrorists in such a way that could put soldiers — and America — at risk of further terrorist attacks.

more:
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/11/missouri-dadt/

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:11 PM
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1. my goodness then we should do what the terrists want us to do
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 02:11 PM by sui generis
kill the buh jayzus out of the gays and glue their rectums shut like they do in terrist places.

What is that home scholed moran thinking?

I think we should do everything in our power, including letting women serve openly, to terrorize the terrorists.

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:11 PM
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2. I guess the terrorists are winning.
It is a stupid argument, but I am surprised it hasn't been used earlier.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:18 PM
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3. Indeed
Of course if they push this line of argument the next thing they'll push is to exclude Jews and females.

Which, if some of the stories are to be believed, the theocrats would not be opposed to.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:23 PM
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4. That's exactly what I was thinking.
It may please a number of people.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:23 PM
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5. Islamic terrorists hate gays every bit as much as our Christian fundamentalists
Islamofascists (since that's the term their side likes to use) despise the West for many reasons, but tolerance of homosexuality is one of those reasons.

So this asshole is saying that we should appease (since that's another term their side likes to use) the Islamofascict mindset by continuing to bar gays from serving?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 05:15 AM
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23. Yep, he might as well suggest our soldiers go over there and kiss the terrorists asses.
What a crock of shit. It is appeasement, plain and simple.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:53 PM
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6. Don't we already go against our principles to please our "allies?"
Aren't women in the US Armed Forces stationed in Saudi Arabia kept, as it were, under wraps?
Or have we told the Saudis they can't dictate how our people behave?
And as long as I'm asking questions, is there anybody in the country dumber than Gary Nodler?
How do we manage to elect these clowns?
(I know, that's four questions, now I think I'll shut myself into a small room for a while and scream.)
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:18 PM
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15. I think we closed that base.
Bush removed our troops from SA in 2003 if I recall correctly.

But yes, off-base they were required to wear appropriate clothing.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:22 PM
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7. doesn't that mean that
If we do NOT repeal DADT that the terrorists win?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:55 PM
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8. Hmm, interesting that killing terrorists with drones doesn't affront them.
Well, I guess that because they undertake terrorist bombing, a drone attack wouldn't really be a cultural affront. Still, I can't help wondering whether they'd really be more concerned by gays in the U.S. military than about U.S. military actions against them. Or is Nodler (Noodler?) saying that we shouldn't use the military against terrorists, lest we offend them?

;-)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:41 PM
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20. ...and anybody within a block of the terrorist.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 04:32 PM
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9. And he's actually living on our taxes
paid to be sitting around, thinking up time-wasting garbage. What happened to "They hate us for our freedoms!!11"?
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TokenQueer Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:20 PM
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21. +1
:D
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 04:46 PM
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10. I hope folks like Noodler suffer the same major headaches they give me. n/t
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 05:02 PM
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11. 'Ain't he got a purty mouth?'
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 05:22 PM
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14. Oh, right - see my post #13 below.
;)
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 05:15 PM
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12. Oh. My. God. How. Stupid. Is. That. Guy. I. Know. Rocks. With. Higher. IQ's.
n/t
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 05:16 PM
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13. And by the way, is he any relation to Lindsey Graham?
There's a striking resemblance that I can't put my finger on.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 12:14 PM
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16. I won't want to offend those who want us dead...
...and who we're trying to kill. :eyes:
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:21 PM
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17. Shouldn't "it pisses off the terrorists" be a good thing? Why please them, they're the enemy!
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:25 PM
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18. Right, because we should care what the people who carry out honor killings and lock up rape victims
think of us.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:39 PM
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19. It's our culture, Noodles.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 05:13 AM
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22. What a crock of shit.
I wish these stupid politicians were not such cowards. What next? Are they going to start making all American women wear head coverings so we won't offend the terrorists? Bend over bin Laden, Gary Nodler wants to kiss your ass and wash your feet. He's a fucking coward who wants to appease you.

What.The.Flying.Flippity.Fuck?

:wtf:
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:18 AM
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24. They don't make em any more stupid than this guy.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:04 AM
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25. Again... A sad waste of talent.
I'm a live and let live kind of guy. But this horse shit really grates on me. Perhaps it is that I am sensitive to things like common sense or perhaps my interpretation of law.

Stating that being openly gay in and of itself is grounds for sexual harassment complaints? Dude, what the fuck!? That is like saying that because we have women in the military that suddenly because there are men there, that this scenario in and of itself is grounds for complaints. I'm calling bull shit, bull shit. This fuck should not be a public representative.

I'm glad that our politicians are sensitive to the needs and feelings of terrorists and not the public they represent.

Maybe he is trying to reach out to the terrorists in a diplomatic way. If we can all see eye to eye, then maybe they can stop the terrorism. Of couse at the expence of a few fags... But hey who's counting?

Fuck... Where's my Tylenol?

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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 04:45 PM
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26. Yes Indeed. Terrorists Like America's Christian Taliban.
What a wonderful world it would be if everyone ignored religion for the childish nonsense that it is.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 07:02 PM
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27. Another thing....
Would one be able to equate this to WWII?

We should keep the Jewish people out of the military as it might piss off the Nazis? Jews ok... Gays not so ok...

I stand by my original statement. A HUGE waste of talent on keeping homosexuals out of the military.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:56 PM
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28. I'm guessing this fucker was urging the use of the Koran as toilet paper
in front of the prisoners at Guantanamo, or something equally sadistic or perverted! Now he's all concerned with the delicate sensibilities of the Taliban!
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whitewolfofarizona Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 09:24 AM
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29. Since When...
have we started taking marching orders from fundie terrorists? As another poster said, we might as well order our troops to kiss their asses.
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lifeliberty345 Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 03:43 PM
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30. Jeepers, What's next?
"Evolution will tick off the terrorists!", "Universal Health Care will tick off the terrorists!"

Where were these jerks way back when?

"The Americans with Disabilities Act will tick off the terrorists!", "The Civil Rights of 1964 will tick of the terrorists!"
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