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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:18 PM
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What did she expect, it is like my telling them I had sex on the stairs
this is what a teacher I genuinely respect and I thought respected me, said when I advocated on behalf of a student who is getting called out in her class. It happened about a week ago and I still admit to being annoyed. I did tell her that it wasn't nearly the same thing, that saying I am gay is no different than her having a pic of her spouse on her desk. Just had to vent I guess.
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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:26 PM
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1. That's terrible
Why is it people never think about the things they say before they say it, especially to friends? You should've said it wasn't the same thing and let her think about that. She would probably still be dismissive, but maybe it would be a seed of a thought to grow in her and irritate her subconscious until she changes her mind.

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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:27 PM
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2. This post is seriously lacking background information.
I'm sure it sounded great in your head, but the rest of us don't know what's going on in your life.

Add the info, and I'll come back and K&R later.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:36 PM
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3. i figured it out easily.
just sayin'.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:21 PM
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4. Re-read for the 5th time and finally got "called out IN class"...
not "called OUT of class". Duh. Jeebus, I'm getting old, reading what I expect it to say, not what it says. You are correct, and I'm the idiot.

BTW, the projection of the offending teacher (sex in a stairway... probably with a student) is telling.

K&R for the barest post evah. The OP could probably write some devastating Haiku.
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thanks_imjustlurking Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 06:38 PM
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13. Ditto. nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 10:28 PM
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5. I'm not sure I follow this.
A student was getting called out in her class.

You intervened on the student's behalf.

She said that was like telling them you had sex on the stairs?

Has she been drinking? :wtf:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 04:49 PM
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10. This is the GLBTQ forum. That's a hint about the topic.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:58 AM
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17. That doesn't explain the leap of illogic.
Specifically, how someone goes from "standing up for a student" to that being like having sex on the stairs.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:31 PM
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18. That's the point being made by the OP. The other teacher's comment was bizarre and offensive.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:39 AM
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6. That is a very disturbing comment your coworker made.
She automatically thinks that any knowledge that someone is a lesbian (or gay, presumably) is comparable to knowing that someone is having public sex? Really?

Does that mean she's imagining and picturing the sex?

Why do people insist that everything is all about sex, instead of about who people love and want to have their relationships with?

Do they really, truly believe that we are love-less creatures?

What is most disturbing about this is that, most of the time, the way people describe some other group of people they don't really know all that well will really be projection of some kind. A projection of themselves in some ways. Whatever they accuse the others of being is something they are familiar with inside. That's why they can imagine this in someone else, and why it even occurs to them that someone else might act or live that way.

So, if people seem to think that we are such love-less creatures, that really presents a disturbing image of who and what they are inside. That's what we are up against in our fight against homophobia. :(
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:43 AM
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7. If they were smart and sneaky, we wouldn't understand "projection".
However, as I said upthread, the fact that she went THERE is really disturbing.

Just how many students did she fuck in that stairway?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 04:51 PM
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11. It is a very interesting comment, isn't it? I would never have thought of saying that.
How many people would ever think of saying something about having sex in stairways. Very unusual. Suspicious.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:11 AM
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15. Not to mention how disturbed she is about "teh Gay".
Someone needs some investigating... and it's not our friend dsc. If any of y'all would like to pursue this issue, please do so from any angle that doesn't mention/implicate dsc.

Either way, this POS hates "different" kids, and needs to go. She's also fueled by hatred, and that's not where learning comes from.

If I'm out of line, dsc should say so.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:11 PM
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8. K&R - one less person I'd want to become acquainted with.
Absolutely can not stand people like that. :mad:
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:54 AM
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16. Yeah, we're all too familiar with those who make/made our lives a living hell.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 01:55 AM by DCKit
Jesus would be so proud.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 04:49 PM
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9. It's obvious why the student is being harassed in her class.
Thank you for speaking up on behalf of the student AND for responding to the teacher's bigoted and ignorant comment by pointing out that identifying as LGBTQ tells nothing about one's sex life.

My own mother - who is usually great about this - said something along those lines. For some reason people think that talking about being gay is the same as talking about sex. Is mentioning the existence of a spouse the same as talking about sex? No, of course not.

Thank you for fighting the good fight, dsc.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:36 PM
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12. thanks
I try my best to be honest I was glad I held it together and didn't just go off on her. I know what it is like to be an out teacher and how hard it can be so I admit I took her comment a bit personally but largely kept that aspect out of it.
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thanks_imjustlurking Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 06:41 PM
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14. "I was glad I held it together and didn't just go off on her."
I admire your self-control. Seriously. I'm hyperventilating and I wasn't even there.
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