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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:05 AM
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Conservative Activist: We Need a New Word for "Gay"

— By Tim Murphy| Tue Apr. 12, 2011 7:11 AM PDT
Last weekend conservative activists converged at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University for "The Awakening," a two day conference devoted to issues of serious concern to the United States going forward—like the threat of Islamic law to the Constitution, the coming monetary collapse, and the abortion "Holocaust." Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) was there; so was fellow GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich; Mike Huckabee couldn't make it but sent along pre-recorded remarks. In other words, kind of a big deal.

But the event's most illuminating speech may have come from Ryan Sorba, a "pro-family activist" who became a minor icon on the far-right in 2010 after condemning the organizers of the Conservative Political Action Conference for including gay people. At Liberty, Sorba took the occasion to criticize conservatives for using the word "gay," and instead suggested a handful of substitute words that he feels carry less baggage. Via the Florida Independent, here's Sorba's advice:

"Stop. Using. The word. Gay. Because if we continue to use this term that is grounded in an identity, we're conceding the premise that it is an identity and the rest of the debate we're on their ground. We're arguing on their terms. He who defines the terms controls the debate and by extension public opinion. What we need to do is state that look this is either same-sex attraction, or maybe they're engaging in same-sex intercourse or sodomy—whatever word you're comfortable using. And that's it."


Anyways, Sorba's right about one thing: Anti-gay activists are losing the debate. A majority of Americans support gay marriage, and 78 percent of Americans supported the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. I'm just not sure that swapping "same-sex sodomy" for "gay" is really going to push back against the arc of history.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/04/conservative-activists-we-should-find-new-word-gay

Hey Sorba- how about using the word, "Human"???
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:08 AM
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1. They should just start using the word 'faggot," so people know that they're nothing but bigots. n/t
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 11:15 AM by Ian David


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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:31 PM
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6. Personally, I'm hoping that faggot will catch on
As a pejorative for assholes who think making a lot of noise with their motorcycles is cool. I fully support South Park's Matt and Trey for attempting to bring about this vocabularistic change.

TlalocW
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:36 PM
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8. I think people should start using the word "Trey" as a pejorative instead of "gay."
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 12:36 PM by Ian David
As in, "People who make too much noise with their motorcycles are totally Trey."

Or

"Dude, that sleeveless shirt you're wearing looks totally Trey. What were you thinking?"


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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:31 AM
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2. Heterosexually challenged?
Fabulous?
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:37 AM
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3. I vote for Fabulous!
n/t
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:43 AM
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4. This is serious
shit people, you all know that conservatives and republics are masters at controlling the message. We need to keep the word "GAY" in the popular lexicon and resit any attempts to change the message. They will try but they have to be stopped.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:45 AM
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5.  . . ..
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:34 PM
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7. Actually, isn't there a pretty good chance
That gay will eventually come to have some sort of meaning involving hypocrisy and conservatism just considering the number of anti-homosexual people keep getting caught in "fabulous" trysts to borrow vocabulary from a previous poster?

TlalocW
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:48 PM
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9. I'm surprised he didn't suggest going back to "queer" (n/t)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:30 PM
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10. Ryan Sorba is the author of the Born Gay Hoax
He is also chairman of the California Young American for freedom. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Americans_for_Freedom )

I don't guess it's freedom for all.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:45 PM
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11. And a new word for "stupid". nt
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TN-Dem Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:11 PM
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12. Sounds about right...
They can't win the debate so they try to "re-define" the terms. They are on the wrong side of this issue.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:11 AM
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13. They've already got "sodomite" -one of their favorite terms. n/t
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