Every time a sex scandal hits DU

[La Lioness Priyanka]

i am glad i am not straight. I see the differences in attitudes between LGBT people and straight people, and frankly I prefer our attitude.

Yeah, there was some stupidity and bad judgment but the world has not ended. I still love his politics. And I supported him for his political beliefs, not his sexual mores.

Also, Happy LGBT Pride Month everybody. :loveya:

[w8liftinglady]

1. back at ya! I get pissed when sex supercedes all the other more important stuff

Time to focus on the really tough things... equality,healthcare,economy.
happy GLBT Month back atya!

[WillParkinson]

3. Whoa whoa and whoa there...

There's things more important than sex? And you're just NOW telling me?

:rofl:

[rfranklin]

4. It's a distraction and intentionally so...

especially for the right wingers who are by and large the most closeted perverts among the populace.

[WillParkinson]

2. Happy Happy to you, too!

:hug:

(Stupid me. Forgot the emoticon.)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. happy pride!!!

:hug:

[Renew Deal]

5. Can someones "sexual mores" affect your opinion of a politician?

Is there anything a politician can do in a sex scandal that would affect your opinion of that politician? Do you consider the coverup part of the "sexual mores?"

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. yes, if there was some HUGE hypocrisy involved. if someone voted against gay rights

consistently while engaging in gay sex. or voted againt abortions, while getting one when convenient. sure, i would judge them. if they voted against both gays and drugs, and had drug filled sex orgies, sure i would judge them.

of course weiner lied about it. i would too . its something he thought was private and about his sex life. i think lying in this situation is very normal.

if you ask me what i masturbate to, i would lie as well. because its personal and i dont think you need to know.

[Renew Deal]

11. Those are all good points.

Especially about the hypocrisy.

[fascisthunter]

6. hypocritical and prudish

this is why stories like this actually effect politics when it shouldn't. This country has a huge problem with sexuality in general. I prefer your attitude, as well as Europe's attitude.

[Renew Deal]

7. When you say "Europes attitude" do you mean excusing rape?

Like in the DSK case?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. yes, i am sure thats exactly what they mean

:eyes:

[Renew Deal]

12. "troussage de domestique"

I'm sure you heard about this...

"The journalist and philosopher Jean-Francois Kahn dismissed the case as a "troussage de domestique", a phrase suggestive of French aristocrats having non-consensual sex with servants. He later apologised and quit journalism."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/03/france-women-sexism-strauss-kahn

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. he wouldnt have to apologize and quit if there hadnt been outrage from the people

[madrchsod]

10. sex sells soap....

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. true enough

[madmom]

14. I am not gay, but I agree with everything you said. I wish more people would learn

to differentiate politics from personal.

Oh and ...Happy LGBT Pride Month! :toast:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. thank you!

[LoZoccolo]

15. I think your statement unnecessarily divides DU.

If there exists some consideration, some fact that becomes more apparent from the point of view of a GLBT person, why not just argue to support that fact?

[TriMera]

18. Totally agree & happy Pride Month to you, too! n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. Happy pride!!!

[EC]

21. My ignore list gets longer

during these times. I don't even want to bother with intolerance, even from our side.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. someone on my ignore list responded to this email

i am sure s/he didnt say anything of importance though. probably something douchey

[closeupready]

23. I missed this topic, but as you know by now, I agree with you entirely.

People may think I'm kidding or being campy when I say that I'm grateful I'm gay - but I'm really serious about that, moreso as I get older, and topics like this show me how backwards and unfulfilled are people who consider themselves (or claim to be) heterosexual in America.

NONE of my gay friends IRL would EVER EVER EVER condemn me for flirting with guys online, or for even flirting in real life. Flirting is NOT sex and NOT infidelity and while Weiner had assumed an important position that required discretion and he failed to exercise that discretion, he is likely not much different than many men are. Just another guy who is sociable, likes people, likes sex, enjoys being a man, and there you go.

But yes, we go through these conversational acrobatics every single time a sex scandal hits the news cycle. Tiresome. :eyes:

K&R

[La Lioness Priyanka]

24. ..

:hug:

[Iggo]

28. Sometimes I like your guys's world better than mines's.

A lot of times, in fact.

B-)

[closeupready]

30. lol

:hi:

[closeupready]

25. Thinking about this a little more, I believe that GLBT and breeder couples differ

in terms of, it seems to me that partners in heterosexual couples are, far more often than gay couples, neurotically possessive of their partner's time, energy and attention, almost like cultish mind control, "you are mine, all MINE!! 24/7!!"

Gay couples are much more relaxed about such things. FWIW.

By the way, Happy Pride, Lionness! Are you marching this year?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. can you believe its been 48 hours of this already. god.

its not that important. its just about a weiner.

[closeupready]

27. And looks like my regrettable prediction came true; get a load of this:

(from yesterday morning)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1248000#1248057

[Iggo]

29. I wanna say it's because gay couples don't have to deal with the gender thing.

That there's a level of understanding that may exist for gay couples that doesn't exist for hetero couples because men know what it's like to be men and women know what it's like to be women and y'all can skip that step without arguing about it.

But again, I'm just guessing.

(EDIT: I'm gonna leave that up there as an example of typing before thinking. But on rereading it, GAWD it sounds terribly naive!) :hide:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

31. i dont think thats it. we've been shamed for sexuality and sexuality mores

and are reluctant to shame others, for what is clearly a private issue

[Amimnoch]

32. Wish I had seen this earlier, I'd have added a Rec...

Beautifully said. The OP as well as the content of many of your replies.

I feel much the same way.. Unless it's one of the politicians that have made it a career to judge, and regulate others personal lives, I really don't give a shit what they do in theirs as long as it is with other consenting people (i.e. rape is of course a different creature).

He may not be my rep, but I'd happily support and vote for him if he was.

[xchrom]

33. as a rule i prefer the company of Teh Gays.

and especially so when something like this comes up.