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FaerieWizard Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:54 PM
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Kansas to invent a new form of marriage!
Damn us homos when we try and redefine marriage or push for marriage for us and call it a civil union, but no one minds when the straights decide to make up a new form of marriage entirely.

Covenant marriage is an optional upgrade of the social contract, and requires counseling on the way in and counseling and faultfinding on the way out.

http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/news/editorial/10408870.htm
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pnutchuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:55 PM
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1. they just want to keep alimony alive
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:59 PM
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2. Ummm, actually Louisiana already has it.
Speaking from one of the two blue counties in Kansas. We're wacky but we get outside help. :hi:
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FaerieWizard Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:04 PM
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4. It looks like other states are going to adopt it too
I still find it ironic that they are basically creating a new type of marriage.

~The FaerieWizard
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:10 PM
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5. I'm sure in their eyes
it makes marriage stronger. So it doesn't suprise me. More importantly it makes people stay in marriages because we all know (:eyes:) one of the biggest problems facing today's youth is broken marriages. I wonder if any faith-based initiative money is spent on this?

And can someone tell me again how the GOP is supposed to be against big government?
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FaerieWizard Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:11 PM
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6. Gosh, here I thought it was
Gran Theft Auto :)

~The FaerieWizard
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kslib Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 04:03 PM
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3. Lots of crazy KS stuff today!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 05:29 PM
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7. I like the idea of counseling on the way in
but the rightwingers are going to go ballistic when the result of the counseling is people NOT GETTING MARRIED. Think about it---some are going to learn how to fix problems during the engagement, but lots are just going to learn that they shouldn't get married at all. Which is how our blue states maintain lower divorce rates than red states.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:59 AM
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8. I personally am completely opposed to this.
The government has no business regulating our relationships. Our relationships, marriages, etc. should continue to be AT-WILL. Nobody should be forced to try to mend a relationship that they simply don't want, or would be unhealthy to stay in.

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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:35 PM
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9. Louisiana and AZ have this, and the studies haven't been great.
Less than 3% of marriages are covenant in both states, and apparently the divorce rate is approximately the same. Basically, it's a waste of money to keep track of them.

Sigh...

Pcat
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:47 PM
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10. Yup. Sounds as if Kansas wants litigation . . . how stupid can
Kansas get? Are they really trying at being stupid in Kansas? Or is it that no one tries at all; instead, it's something in the air in Kansas!?

ROFLMAO . . . then they want tort reform! Yup. A state sets itself up for litigation, then blames the lawyers for the multitude of law suits that it produces. :crazy:

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 03:58 AM
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11. Covenant marriage
Fundie invention.Undermines womens rights.
*Covenant marriage laws. Those are new. The one in the news recently is from Alabama. Makes it harder to get divorced but doesn't fix the marriage problems. Especially harmful to women in abusive marriages. They can't get out. The main reason covenant marriages are getting press is due to the fact that women initiate the vast majority of divorces.
Covenant marriage teaches men rule the house.The man "covers" thier wife"Women's duty to provide sex and do itwhen he wants it unless she is sick/injured.
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http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14988

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=18147
http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/nation/7865397.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

http://metrovoice.net/www.metrovoice.net/2003/0603_stlweb/0603_articles/federal_father.html
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Lisaben2619 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:53 AM
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12. There were a couple of sponsors for a bill like this here in WI
who were also sponsors of the state anti-LGBT amendment. It lost steam when all the legislators who were on board with the anti-gay amendment were asked to "sign" covenants for their own marriages. It's clear many have no intention of honoring "til death do us part" in their own marriages, yet we're the ones destroying marriage. It would be funny if it wasn't so sick.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 07:26 PM
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13. charming
i've already had experiences with women in my family with abusive born again husbands.
this just help insure they can't get away.
i imagine the propaganda from the pulpit will be intense.
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