Evil fundies tied to Bush join with worse Fundies at Alliance for Marriage

[Ian David]

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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 08:39:29 -0600
From: Alliance For Marriage <[e-mail]>
Subject: National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise Joins AFM


You'll be pleased to know that Bob Woodson of the National Center for
Neighborhood Enterprise has joined the Board of Advisors of the
Alliance For Marriage.

Bob Woodson is the founder and president of the National Center for
Neighborhood Enterprise (NCNE). Bob Woodson's social activism
dates back to the 1960's, when as a young civil rights activist, he
developed and coordinated national and local community development
programs. During the 70's he directed the National Urban League's
Administration of Justice division.

He has worked with youth intervention and violence prevention programs
since the 1960's and has written several books on the subject. A major
initiative of the National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise is the
Violence Free Zone project, the roots of which were in a program in
Philadelphia, PA known as the House of Umoja, which stopped gang
violence throughout Philadelphia in the early 1980's.

Using strategies learned there, Woodson and NCNE helped craft a peace
agreement among warring factions in Washington, D.C.'s Benning Terrace
public housing development that had led to more than 50 youth deaths
in recent years. A program of jobs, training, education and other
support led to a complete revitalization of the neighborhood and
turnaround in the lives of youths most people had written off as
hopeless.

The principles of this program have been adapted to NCNE's Violence
Free Zone projects in the East Capitol section of Washington, DC,
Dallas, Los Angeles, Hartford, and Indianapolis.

Among the many awards Woodson has received is the prestigious John D.
and Catherine T. MacArthur Fellowship, often referred to as the
"genius" award.


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[Ian David]

1. NCNE: Another evil fundie group (WITH TIES TO BUSH!)

.: White House News - Bush Honors 40th Anniversary Of Civil Rights ...
... Thanks for coming, sir. My friend, Bob Woodson, President of the National Center
for Neighborhood Enterprise, is here. Thanks for coming, glad you're here. ...
www.allamericanpatriots.com/ m-news+article+storyid-1736.html


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"National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise" and homosexual "gay marriage"
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Family Research Council: Thursday, May 6, 2004 "PR04C18"
... for America Barrett Duke, Southern Baptist Convention Bob Woodson, National Center ...
$1 Million Ad Campaign Seeks to Mislead Public About the Homosexual Agenda, ...
www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=PR04C18&f=PR04D06&row=51

Telling the Truth by Marvin Olasky
... Minority politics conference, September 30*. Profiles: Elizabeth Wright, Nona
Brazier, Reuben Greenberg, Bob Woodson. * = prospective covers. ...
www.worldmag.com/world/olasky/truth12.html


Wedgies - www.ezboard.com
... Neighborhood Enterprise also warn Republicans that they are badly fumbling the ball
by not aggressively tapping into black hostility toward gay marriage and ...
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Concerned Women for America - CWA Joins Press Conference to ...
... Bob Woodson, President of the National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise. For
Information Contact: Rebecca Riggs [phone] media.cwfa.org. ...
www.cwfa.org/articles/5434/MEDIA/family/

Family Research Council: Saturday, April 17, 2004 "PR04C18"
... Barrett Duke, Southern Baptist Convention Bob Woodson, National Center for Neighborhood
Enterprise. ... Transcript: Bush Backs Amendment Banning Gay Marriage. ...
www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=PR04C18&f=PR04C13&row=21

Family Research Council: Monday, May 3, 2004 "PR04C18"
... Enterprise. WHERE: Mansfield Room at US Capitol Building 3:30 pm - 4:00 pm. PR04C18.
More Press Release. ... 07/10/03, FRC Ready to Respond to Historic 'Gay Marriage ...
www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=PR04C18&f=PR04D06&row=81

TheWBALChannel.com - Family - Welfare Bill Would Encourage Unwed ...
... Robert Woodson, who heads the National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise, says
the "healthy ... Delegate Tacks On Surprise Gay Marriage Amendment To Bill. Scathing ...
www.thewbalchannel.com/family/2966166/detail.html

For black ministers, political tone shifts | csmonitor.com
... the Roman Catholic Church in opposing gay marriage, it seemed ... says Robert Woodson,
president of the National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise in Washington. ...
csmonitor.com/2004/0504/p02s01-uspo.html

The Village Voice: Features: Queer Eye for the Black Guy by Ta ...
... in June, support for gay marriage has dropped ... were asked whether homosexual relationships
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Al Qaeda-No. Korea Hearing, Federal Court Jurisdiction, & Welfare ...
... Amendment, or FMA, that would ban gay marriage is splitting ... Robert Woodson, who heads
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Saturday, May 08, 2004
... promotion" of homosexuality, homosexual "rights," and such. ... in opposing gay marriage,
it seemed ... of the National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise in Washington ...
www.marriagedebate.com/ mdblog/2004_05_02_mdblog_archive.htm

Friday, May 28, 2004
... as well as homosexual couples, especially ... If indeed gay marriage can lead to divorce ...
Founder and President, National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise In the ...
www.marriagedebate.com/ mdblog/2004_05_23_mdblog_archive.htm

Arianna Online Forums - Ads for blacks hit Democrats
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www.ariannaonline.com/forums/ archive/index.php/t-13775.html

JustLeftOfCenter: October 2003 Archives
... National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise Washington DC,.DC $498,403 From ... that
we pro-gay-marriage people are ... state recognition of homosexual relationships. ...
www.henrylewis.org/blog/archives/2003_10.html

portland imc - 2004.05.18 - Exit NeoConservatives, Enter ...
... Robert Woodson, the President of the National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise;
Stephen Goldsmith ... they passed off bogus social science on gay marriage as if ...
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.: Patriot News - HUD Secretary Jackson to Lead Delegation to ...
... Wesley Clark; President Calls for Constitutional Amendment Prohibiting Gay Marriage; ...
Sr., president of the National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise; and Tamar ...
www.allamericanpatriots.com/ m-news+article+storyid-2512.html

Family Research Council: Saturday, April 17, 2004 "PR04C18"
... Concerned Women for America Barrett Duke, Southern Baptist Convention Bob Woodson,
National Center for ... Transcript: Bush Backs Amendment Banning Gay Marriage. ...
www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=PR04C18&f=PR04C13&row=21

Ohio Republicans make strides in reaching out to black voters
"Young people want to have options, and they're not buying the Democratic platform," said Mr. Woodson, a former director of the National Urban League's Division of Justice. "We, as a black community, need to ask ourselves why black kids are failing in cities that have been run by blacks for more than 20 years," he said.

Mr. Woodson said the GOP did better in the black community in this election because many blacks were in tune with some of the issues on the Republican platform, including a ban on gay marriages, school choice, and Social Security reform.

"There is a sea change going on and it is sending waves through the political landscape," said Mr. Woodson. "My worst fear is that Republicans are going to pander to blacks like the Democrats have for a long time."
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041205/NEWS09/412050344

[davidinalameda]

2. so nice to know that homophobia is alive and well

in all races

[Ian David]

3. African-Americans and Homophobia

According to some statistics I have seen, African-Americans are more likely to be homophobic than any other ethnic group.

But I have read conflicting statistics in various places, so I'll accept that information only provisionally for now. (If anyone has any definitive studies on that, please let me know.)

The usual explanation is that they tend to spend more time and church and because of the rampant racism in our country they are more often deprived of an education.

And in church, they are the captive audience every Sunday of someone who tells them what he says God wants them to believe. And often what they're told is that God wants them to hate homosexuals.

I agree with that, and add my own theory.

The old racist stereotype (see: Birth of a Nation for an illustration) used to be that black people couldn't control their sexual urges and would rape white women any time they were given the chance.



Of course, come the civil rights movement, they did a good job fighting that stereotype. For the most part, it has worked. But not every bigoted racist is convinced. They never are.

Traces of the "black men are sexual beasts" stereotype linger in the form of the "black men have bigger penises" myth.

The dangers of flattering myths
http://idsnews.com/story.php?id=22646

At the risk of catching hell from my fellow black men, I feel I must make this point very clear: not all black men are anatomically gifted, either in regard to their physical abilities or sexual attributes. To think otherwise is to implicitly accept a racist stereotype, albeit a seemingly flattering one.

This particular notion derives from the "Mandingo" caricature of decades past. Mandingo is a stupid, muscular, jet-black, sub-human creature, most often portrayed as a field hand, who preys on white women. Mandingo's primary function is physical labor, and he is noted specifically for his sexual promiscuity and prowess. Overwhelmed by the animal nature of Mandingo, the helpless white women either fall victim to their own uncontrollable sexual urges and have sex with Mandingo, or more often, he takes them against their will -- similar to the snatching of Fay Wray in "King Kong" and the explicit premise of D.W. Griffith's racist "classic," "Birth of a Nation."

Not so flattering anymore, is it?

Now, people who believe homosexuality is a "choice" are more likely to be anti-gay than those who understand that gay is something you are BORN as.

So, consciously or not, the black clergy has decided to fight the idea that people are "born gay," because that would imply that homosexuals are born with certain urges (for example, an attraction for the same sex) that gay people "can not control."

And if gay people can not control being gay, what does that do when black people confront racists who believe that black men can't control wanting to rape white women?

The possibility of biologically determined sexual urges frightens the black clergy because they're afraid that accepting gay people as "born gay" means giving credence to the false idea that black men are "born rapists."

There's also the idea that African-Americans are still afraid of the same white southern crackers that have abused them for centuries. They're afraid to stand-up for the rights of those people that the white fundamentalists hate, because it would bring down the whip of whitey's lash.

In case you haven't read carefully (or in case I have not been clear enough) please understand that I am discussing racial and gay stereotypes that I do NOT agree with and that I find reprehensible.

I have nothing against black people or gay people, and I whole-heartedly endorse their liberation from oppression and bigotry. I apologize in advance if I have not been clear enough to make that obvious.

Oh, and obviously NOT ALL African-Americans are homophobes.

I can follow-up on that in another post if anyone's interested.

Actually, let me at least throw in one link:

Coretta Scott King
Links Gay Rights and
African-American Civil Rights
http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/coretta.html

[Ian David]

4. I hate when I compose a long, involved message post...

And then nobody responds to it.

<sigh>

[Brian_Expat]

5. I read it and agreed with it! :) n/t