McCain: It Was the Gays Who Tortured Me

[NorthCarolina]

McCain: It Was the Gays Who Tortured Me
By: PAUL SCHINDLER
08/21/2008

In a first-person account of his time as a prisoner of war in North Viet Nam, John McCain, writing in US News and World Report in 1973, said of those who tortured him: "Some guards would just come in and do their job. When they were told to beat you they would come in and do it. Some seemed to get a big bang out of it. A lot of them were homosexual, although never toward us. Some, who were pretty damned sadistic, seemed to get a big thrill out of the beatings."

The 12,000-word account that McCain published has also caught the attention of some bloggers, who are questioning the Republican's account of a guard drawing the sign of the cross in the sand. McCain repeated the anecdote during his appearance this past weekend on the forum hosted by evangelical Pastor Rick Warren, saying it led to a moment of "just two Christians worshipping together." Andrew Sullivan, a supporter of Senator Barack Obama, posted several entries questioning when McCain first related the story and concluding it was no earlier than 1999.

Sullivan pointed out that in the 1973 article McCain talked about a Vietnamese guard - "the only real human being that I ever met over there" - who let him lie down to rest for several hours, but made no mention of the cross in the sand.

Sullivan also noted that the McCain account is similar to one that Luke Veronis, in his 1997 book " The Sign of the Cross," said that Alexander Solzhenitsyn, in "The Gulag Archipelago," recounted about his own experience. Sullivan said that he can find no such passage in the Solzhenitsyn book, but that evangelical leader and convicted Watergate felon Chuck Colson popularized the same account of the Russian expatriates experience under Soviet imprisonment in a 1983 book.

Link to article: http://gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20086315&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568857&rfi=6

[Orrex]

1. One of my friends in high school was gay and a closeted Vietnamese person

Yikes--McCain gets crazier and crazier the more I hear about him...

[NorthCarolina]

3. My favorite part

Many were gay "but NEVER towards us", had to get that part in there for sure. Heaven forbid someone would find out he took it up the hoo-hoo in prison....That might make him GAY.

[Orrex]

4. If anyone had inserted his penis into McCain's orifice, I suspect that it would still be there

Given his retentiveness...

[NorthCarolina]

6. Snort!

:rofl: Too funny

[Orrex]

10. I just don't know how they coordinate it al

I mean, when they're not mincing around and converting our red-blooded American sons to the ways of Sodom, they're torturing our brave soldiers abroad.

I'll say this for The Gays--they must have fabulous time-management skills.

[swimmernsecretsea]

13. Oh, you didn't!

But you did, so I'm laughing now!

:rofl:

[Cronus Protagonist]

2. Dog whistle to the gay haters

n/t

[jonnyblitz]

5. oh please, like only "the gays" are into SM.

Speaking of "blame the gays", there was a book written that blamed "the gays" for the Nazi's in Germany called "The Pink Swastika".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pink_Swastika

[zonmoy]

23. gay man into s&m

also know a straight couple into it.

[Mz Pip]

7. How does McCain know the

guards were gay? Did he have Gaydar?

[NorthCarolina]

9. Hmmm...good question

hadn't thought of that angle on it.

[goodgd_yall]

20. That was the first think to come to my mind n/t

[Zuiderelle]

8. He's disgusting.

Even Bush never said such directly homophobic things as that. Just disgusting.

[zbdent]

11. That's rather interesting ... especially when you consider the

"homo-erotic" nature of a bunch of things that went down in Abu Ghraib ... does that mean that McCain is implying that they're homosexuals, too? They seemed to enjoy stacking naked men on top of each other ... but then, they claimed it was "humiliation ..."

Or maybe John McCain has traded in Ben Hur for Pulp Fiction for his latest memoirs ...

[BrklynLiberal]

12. Excellent point...

[Meeker Morgan]

15. McCain is implying that they're homosexuals, too? Sure.

After all the perps in those pictures were sent to prison for what they did.

Right?

[terrya]

14. My attitude toward John McCain is turning into hatred.

Fuck him if he's going to peddle this disgusting piece of shit bigotry. He did NOT have to mention his captors possible sexual orientation. And how the FUCK did he possibly know whether his captors were gay?

Fuck that motherfucking piece of shit McCain.

[readmoreoften]

16. I've been tortured by the gays too. I just can't take Madonna or Moulin Rouge.

But my gay buddies play it just to razz me. I've also been tortured by my fellow lesbians via a little known Gitmo procedure called Folkmusic-Boarding. Has Mr. McCain also nearly drowned from Ani DiFranco being shoved down his throat? The poor darling...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. i feel the same way about folkmusic

[zonmoy]

24. in that case gays torment each other in that they don't recognize that some gay men

aren't into the same things.

rather listen to rancid or disturbed than Madonna.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. when its convenient we are sissies, when its convenient we are real tough and cruel

these assholes cant even keep their stereotypes straight

[Karl_Bonner_1982]

22. We need more of the mean-and-tough types

Maybe if more openly gay guys were better at picking fights and beating the crap out of anyone who harassed them, people would learn that we're not for pissing on.

[sui generis]

26. can't keep their stereotypes gay either, apparently

:P

Here's a newsflash for McCain: you're not persecuted. Shut the fuck up. I suppose those guards had a gay triangle tattooed on their foreheads, or else McCain has a phenomenal intercultural gaydar.

I'll be happy to represent tough and cruel if the bastard steals this election, whether it's convenient for them or not.

[davidinalameda]

18. they tried to do his hair or redecorate his cell?

how in the hell would he know if anyone was gay or not

[Christa]

19. This is uncalled for

he is a lowlife homophobic oxygen thief. Everyday I have to lower my expectations of him which it has been in deficit for years now.

[zonmoy]

25. I figure that the only reason many republicans havent gone to hell yet.

is that the devil refuses them entry saying that things are bad enough down there without them.