The role of heavy metal accumulation in neurological disease

[HysteryDiagnosis]

Some can excrete it efficiently, others not so much. Dr. Walsh discovered this fact so many years ago and it is taking this long for "science/modern medicine" to catch up. The old adage goes, if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail and so it goes.


1: Biol Trace Elem Res. 2009 Aug 18. Click here to read Links
Chromium, Cadmium, and Lead Levels in Urine of Children with Autism and Typically Developing Controls.
Yorbik O, Kurt I, Haşimi A, Oztürk O.

Gülhane Military Medical Faculty Child Psychiatry Department, Etlik 06018, Ankara, Turkey, [e-mail].

Although potentially harmful effects of heavy metals are well known, limited numbers of studies exist regarding their relationship with autism. The aim of this study was to investigate urine levels of some heavy metals such as of chromium (Cr), cadmium (Cd), and lead (Pb) in children with autism and healthy subjects. Urine levels of Cr, Cd, and Pb were measured by atomic absorption spectrometry in 30 children with autism and compared with 20 healthy controls. Urine Cd and Pb levels were found as significantly decreased in children with autism compared to healthy subjects (p < 0.05). On the other hand, urine Cr levels were significantly higher in children with autism than healthy subjects (p < 0.05).

This study suggested that autism may be associated with significant decrease in excretion rate of Cd and Pb and a significant increase excretion rate in the levels of Cr in the urine. These results have indicated that further studies are warranted for investigation of possible roles of heavy metals in autism.

[goclark]

1. Hope they learn more as quickly as posible ~ thanks nt

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. If you go to this site and read, you will find that there are a few

trailblazers who have been working this angle for years.

www.hriptc.org

[goclark]

17. txs nt

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. And I repeat this theme

1: Biomarkers. 2009 May;14(3):171-80.Click here to read Links
The plasma zinc/serum copper ratio as a biomarker in children with autism spectrum disorders.
Faber S, Zinn GM, Kern JC 2nd, Kingston HM.

The Children's Institute, 1405 Shady Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15217, USA. [e-mail]

The frequency of zinc deficiency, copper toxicity and low zinc/copper in children with autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) may indicate decrement in metallothionein system functioning. A retrospective review of plasma zinc, serum copper and zinc/copper was performed on data from 230 children with autistic disorder, pervasive developmental disorder-NOS and Asperger's syndrome. The entire cohort's mean zinc level was 77.2 microg dl(-1), mean copper level was 131.5 microg dl(-1), and mean Zn/Cu was 0.608, which was below the 0.7 cut-off of the lowest 2.5% of healthy children. The plasma zinc/serum copper ratio may be a biomarker of heavy metal, particularly mercury, toxicity in children with ASDs.

PMID: 19280374
1: J Neurol Sci. 2009 May 15;280(1-2):101-8. Epub 2008 Sep 25.Click here to read Links

Comment in:
J Neurol Sci. 2009 May 15;280(1-2):127-8; author reply 128-9; discussion 129-30.

Biomarkers of environmental toxicity and susceptibility in autism.
Geier DA, Kern JK, Garver CR, Adams JB, Audhya T, Nataf R, Geier MR.

Institute of Chronic Illnesses, Inc., Silver Spring, Maryland, USA.

Autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) may result from a combination of genetic/biochemical susceptibilities in the form of a reduced ability to excrete mercury and/or increased environmental exposure at key developmental times. Urinary porphyrins and transsulfuration metabolites in participants diagnosed with an ASD were examined. A prospective, blinded study was undertaken to evaluate a cohort of 28 participants with an ASD diagnosis for Childhood Autism Rating Scale (CARS) scores, urinary porphyrins, and transsulfuration metabolites. Testing was conducted using Vitamin Diagnostics, Inc. (CLIA-approved) and Laboratoire Philippe Auguste (ISO-approved).

Participants with severe ASDs had significantly increased mercury intoxication-associated urinary porphyrins (pentacarboxyporphyrin, precoproporphyrin, and coproporphyrin) in comparison to participants with mild ASDs, whereas other urinary porphyrins were similar in both groups. Significantly decreased plasma levels of reduced glutathione (GSH), cysteine, and sulfate were observed among study participants relative to controls. In contrast, study participants had significantly increased plasma oxidized glutathione (GSSG) relative to controls.


Mercury intoxication-associated urinary porphyrins were significantly correlated with increasing CARS scores and GSSG levels, whereas other urinary porphyrins did not show these relationships.

The urinary porphyrin and CARS score correlations observed among study participants suggest that mercury intoxication is significantly associated with autistic symptoms. The transsulfuration abnormalities observed among study participants indicate that mercury intoxication was associated with increased oxidative stress and decreased detoxification capacity.

[sam sarrha]

27. young children incorporate the mercury into their nervous system, once there it cant be removed..the

damage is permanent

[HysteryDiagnosis]

29. No it is not. Adult stem cells produced in the bone marrow can

repair nervous system tissue. It's what they do. There are ways to increase the production of adult stem cells in the bone marrow but I'm not going to get into that.

[sam sarrha]

42. i'm refering to the real world not your fantacy world

[HysteryDiagnosis]

43. Maybe not so much fantasy.

http://www.fisherinstitute.org/stemcell.htm

PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION SYLLABUS

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome/Stem Cell -- Learning and Behavior Problems In Children With Maternal Alcohol Damage (FAS) Led to Benefits Reported in Infants and Youth Responsive to Micronutrients

For over a decade restorations in health associated with micronutrition could not be explained. Glyconutrient-fostered stem cell production answers the riddle.

By: H. Reg McDaniel, M.D.

Presented at :

3rd National Conference
New Initiatives in the Prevention and Intervention
of FAS/FAE for Aboriginal Peoples of Canada
May 21-22, 2003
Vancouver, BC CANADA


Sponsor:

FAS/FAE Support Network of British Columbia
FASAT
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome/Effects Assistance and Training,
Ontario, CANADA

[sam sarrha]

44. some day it may be a blessing.. but we have a low priority for Socialist Common Wealth Research.. i

wont see it in my day's. as long as the ReThuglican clepto-Theocratic ideology prevails..

they believe that 'wealth' is the measure of god favors a man/corporation, therefore... it is a sin against god to tax a rich man. it is also a sin against god to help a poor man, because god is punishing the poor man with poverty. it is a mortal sin to take from the rich and give to the poor/unfortunate.. that is Blasphemy to god's will. they are nothing but a Fuck'n Cargo Cult.

i saw an estimate of equal division of wealth in this country, not counting money hidden in offshore banks,

equitably distributed every man women and child in the USA would have $513,000 dollars in the bank

i see the country hijacked by Wallstreet OCD gambling addicts and psychotic insane Wealth Horders

[HysteryDiagnosis]

45. I see adult stem cells healing damaged nervous system tissue

including the brain, these cells were produced in the bone marrow, the production of these cells was stimulated with glyconutrients and micronutrition.

[tabatha]

3. Are there any foods that bind the metals so that they can be removed from the body.

I believe that seaweed binds with mercury - so if you eat fish, garnish it with seaweed.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

5. Yes there are, my former dentist used to have a couple supplements

that were used for this purpose.

[trotsky]

4. Anti-vaxers really need to settle on a culprit.

First it's mercury. That's been disproven a thousand times over, so they look for something else. Now it's lead and cadmium - well, newsflash: neither of those is in any vaccines. Ooops! It would be laughable if the anti-vaxers weren't causing harm by scaring people away from vaccination.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. There seems to be very little you understand concerning these

topics so it is most likely you are wasting your time here.

1: Altern Ther Health Med. 2009 Mar-Apr;15(2):56-60.Links
A possible central mechanism in autism spectrum disorders, part 3: the role of excitotoxin food additives and the synergistic effects of other environmental toxins.
Blaylock RL.

Belhaven College, Jackson, Mississippi, USA.

There is compelling evidence from a multitude of studies of various design indicating that foodborne excitotoxin additives can elevate blood and brain glutamate to levels known to cause neurodegeneration and in the developing brain, abnormal connectivity. Excitotoxins are also secreted by microglial activation when they are in an activated state. Recent studies, discussed in part 1 of this article, indicate that chronic microglial activation is common in the autistic brain. The interaction between excitotoxins, free radicals, lipid peroxidation products, inflammatory cytokines, and disruption of neuronal calcium homeostasis can result in brain changes suggestive of the pathological findings in cases of autism spectrum disorders. In addition, a number of environmental neurotoxins, such as fluoride, lead, cadmium, and aluminum, can result in these pathological and biochemical changes.

PMID: 19284184

[tabatha]

8. I did not see any references to vaccines in the articles quoted.

One can get heavy metal poisoning from a wide variety of sources.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

10. That is what these people do.... and more. The Trotskyites see

this and pretend it doesn't exist, never happened.

http://www.hriptc.org/content/about.php


Introducing the Pfeiffer Treatment Center

The Pfeiffer Treatment Center is a not-for-profit medical research and treatment facility in Warrenville, Illinois specializing in research and treatment of biochemical imbalances. Since the center opened in 1989, it has treated over 20,000 patients who suffer from behavior dysfunctions, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, autism, learning disorders, or anxiety by balancing body and brain chemistry.

The Pfeiffer Treatment Center, the medical clinic of the Health Research Institute (HRI), is staffed by a team of physicians, practitioners, chemists, and other professionals who specialize in the effects of biochemistry on behavior, thought, and mood. The on-site HRI Pharmacy compounds nutrients hormones, and other biochemicals to reduce the number of pills in a prescription using customized methods and equipment.

Biochemical Evaluation and Treatments

During each initial outpatient visit, a physical exam, a medical and social history, and laboratory tests are conducted to identify specific imbalances. Pfeiffer’s comprehensive evaluation determines whether the patient has an imbalance in metal metabolism, methylation, heavy metals, absorption, essential fatty acids or amino acids. An individualized treatment program is then created with the goal of restoring proper biochemical functioning. Treatment programs might include such biochemicals as vitamins, minerals, and amino acids.

Biochemical therapy is not an alternative to traditional drug therapies; it complements other treatment methods. This therapy can be used in conjunction with prescription medications, which may be eventually reduced or phased out altogether as the biochemistry is balanced. Pfeiffer encourages patients to seek counseling and use other therapies that may work well with our treatment.

[Juche]

9. We aren't talking about vaccinations

As far as autism, we are finding newer and better research all the time.

Heavy metal poisoning
Vitamin D deficiency in pregnancy
leaky gut syndrome and food intolerances

http://www.amazon.com/Children-Starving-Brains-Treatment-Spectrum/dp/188364710X

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. You read but you don't see, you hear but you don't listen. Pity that. n/t

[trotsky]

13. Your post you spam you insult but you don't really read or understand.

Now that's something to pity.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

16. I know you are but what am I?

[trotsky]

18. Yup, that's about what I expect from you.

Thanks for confirming.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

21. Cheap shot. Can't deal with the facts. Pity that once again. I'll bet

you can't read this either.


1: J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007 May 15;70(10):837-51.Click here to read Links
A case series of children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders.
Geier DA, Geier MR.

Institute of Chronic Illnesses, Inc., Silver Spring, Maryland, USA.

Impairments in social relatedness and communication, repetitive behaviors, and stereotypic abnormal movement patterns characterize autism spectrum disorders (ASDs). It is clear that while genetic factors are important to the pathogenesis of ASDs, mercury exposure can induce immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions similar to traits defining or associated with ASDs. The Institutional Review Board of the Institute for Chronic Illnesses (Office for Human Research Protections, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, IRB number IRB00005375) approved the present study. A case series of nine patients who presented to the Genetic Centers of America for a genetic/developmental evaluation are discussed.

Eight of nine patients (one patient was found to have an ASD due to Rett's syndrome) (a) had regressive ASDs; (b) had elevated levels of androgens; (c) excreted significant amounts of mercury post chelation challenge; (d) had biochemical evidence of decreased function in their glutathione pathways; (e) had no known significant mercury exposure except from Thimerosal-containing vaccines/Rho(D)-immune globulin preparations; and (f) had alternate causes for their regressive ASDs ruled out. There was a significant dose-response relationship between the severity of the regressive ASDs observed and the total mercury dose children received from Thimerosal-containing vaccines/Rho (D)-immune globulin preparations.

Based upon differential diagnoses, 8 of 9 patients examined were exposed to significant mercury from Thimerosal-containing biologic/vaccine preparations during their fetal/infant developmental periods, and subsequently, between 12 and 24 mo of age, these previously normally developing children suffered mercury toxic encephalopathies that manifested with clinical symptoms consistent with regressive ASDs. Evidence for mercury intoxication should be considered in the differential diagnosis as contributing to some regressive ASDs.

[trotsky]

24. The person who presents "I know you are but what am I?" as an argument...

accusing someone else of a cheap shot?

I'm amused. :rofl:

BTW, the study you are quoting is from the discredited, humiliated, and thrown-out-of-court Geiers. Quote a study from Humpty Dumpty, it'll have far more weight.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

31. You ain't amused, you are grasping at straws. n/t

[trotsky]

32. Here is just one example of a total demolition of a Geier study.

http://epiwonk.com/?p=55

[Th1onein]

12. You just don't get it, do you?

Mercury is a metal. So are lead and cadmium. If autistic children are lacking in their ability to excrete certain heavy metals, then this would include mercury, of which thimerosol, the preservative in vaccines, is a form.

And, by the way, the hypothesis that thimerosol is associated with autism has NOT been disproven. Not even once, much less a thousand times.

[trotsky]

14. I'll get it as soon as you can produce facts and evidence.

So far, you've got neither. Good luck to you & the pile-on gang.

On edit: By the way, the only disproof of the thimerosal-autism hypothesis you really need to acknowledge is that since being removed from all routine childhood immunizations, autism rates have maintained or increased. (The same occurred in countries like Denmark and Japan that removed thimerosal years before the USA did.) So even after your number one culprit is removed from the equation, autism continues unabated. DISPROVED.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

15. Let me see if you can read these short paragraphs, interpret them

understand them and draw the proper conclusions. Let's see just how "logical" you really are.

http://www.hriptc.org/content/about.php

Introducing the Pfeiffer Treatment Center

The Pfeiffer Treatment Center is a not-for-profit medical research and treatment facility in Warrenville, Illinois specializing in research and treatment of biochemical imbalances. Since the center opened in 1989, it has treated over 20,000 patients who suffer from behavior dysfunctions, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, autism, learning disorders, or anxiety by balancing body and brain chemistry.

The Pfeiffer Treatment Center, the medical clinic of the Health Research Institute (HRI), is staffed by a team of physicians, practitioners, chemists, and other professionals who specialize in the effects of biochemistry on behavior, thought, and mood. The on-site HRI Pharmacy compounds nutrients hormones, and other biochemicals to reduce the number of pills in a prescription using customized methods and equipment.

Biochemical Evaluation and Treatments

During each initial outpatient visit, a physical exam, a medical and social history, and laboratory tests are conducted to identify specific imbalances. Pfeiffer’s comprehensive evaluation determines whether the patient has an imbalance in metal metabolism, methylation, heavy metals, absorption, essential fatty acids or amino acids. An individualized treatment program is then created with the goal of restoring proper biochemical functioning. Treatment programs might include such biochemicals as vitamins, minerals, and amino acids.

Biochemical therapy is not an alternative to traditional drug therapies; it complements other treatment methods. This therapy can be used in conjunction with prescription medications, which may be eventually reduced or phased out altogether as the biochemistry is balanced. Pfeiffer encourages patients to seek counseling and use other therapies that may work well with our treatment.

[trotsky]

20. Let's see if you can make a connection between that center

and what you're trying to claim on this thread.

Go ahead. I'm waiting.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

22. Not a problem, you can read can't you?

Werbach, Melvyn: Nutritional influences on aggressive behavior. J Ortho Med 1995; v.7, no. 1. Evidence is emerging that iron deficiency among adolescent males has been shown to be directly associated with aggressive behavior.

Schoenthaler, SJ, Bier ID: The effect of vitamin-mineral supplementation on juvenile delinquency among American schoolchildren:a randomized, double-blind placebo-controlled trial. J Altern Complement Med 2000; 6(1):7-17. Numerous studies conducted in juvenile correctional institutions have reported that violence and serious antisocial behavior have been dramatically reduced after implementing nutrient dense diets.

Walsh,W: Zinc deficiency, metal metabolism, and behavioral disorders. Report of the Health Research Institute 1995. This study focuses on persons born with a metal-metabolism disorder often resulting in episodic violence, hyperactivity and conduct disorder.

Sever Y, Ashkenazi A, Tyano S, Weizman, A: Iron treatment in children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. A preliminary report. Neuropsych 1997; 35(4):178-80.A study of 14 boys aged 7-11 years using iron for therapeutic treatment of hyperactivity. The report recommends further study based on the finding that increased blood iron resulted in the reduction of aggressive behaviors.

Department of Family Medicine, Pomeranian Medical Academy, Poland: The effects of magnesium physiological supplementation on hyperactivity in children with ADHD. Mag Res 1997; 10(2):149-56. The report from this institute states that dietetic factors can play a significant role in the origin of ADHD and that magnesium deficiency can result in disruptive behaviors.

Schoenthaler S: Vitamins Against Crime: Supplementation and antisocial behavior in institutions. Medical Nutrition 1990; 34-37. Brain function requires adequate nutrition, and correction of chronic undernutrition can improve antisocial behavior. Researchers have found that vitamin and mineral tests can be a good indicator of violent behavior.

Sanstead H: A brief history of the influence of trace elements on brain function. J Clin Nutrit 1986; 43:293-98. Historically iron, copper, manganese and zinc deficiency have been associated with mental impairment. Manifestations of such deficiencies include confusion, violence, dullness and death.

Schoenthaler S: Applied nutrition and behavior. J Applied Nutr 1991;43(1):31-39. This research showed that nutrient dense diets in 813 state facilities resulted in significantly improved conduct. The distribution of vitamin and mineral supplements was a significant factor in promoting less violent behavior.

Schrauzer G, Vroey E: Effects of nutritional lithium supplementation on mood. Biological Trace Element Res 1994; 40:89-101. The results of an intensive study of former drug users, violent offenders or those with a history of domestic violence assert that lithium supplementation has a mood improving and stabilizing effect. Authors suggest that a nutritional lithium supplement may be a valuable drug in violence and suicide prevention programs.

Lonsdale D, et al.: J of Advancement of Medicine 1994; 7(3):171-180. A review of the potential for high calorie malnutrition as a link for senseless violence and crime. The author asserts that if it is true that body chemistry plays a role in abnormal behavior, that it is largely a waste of time to treat violent criminals by incarcerating them and ignoring the critical factor of their diet.

Walsh W, et al.: Elevated blood copper/zinc ratios in assaultive young males. Physiology and Behavior 1997; 62(2)327-329. Stresses the importance of the study of different metal ratios and their association with behavior in an effort to identify those with increased risk. Improvement in biochemistry in these individuals is seen as very beneficial.

Carney MWP: Vitamin deficiency and mental symptoms. British Journal of Psychiatry 1990;156:878-882. Study reveals that 53% of unselected patients admitted to psychiatric hospital unit were vitamin deficient. Vitamin B deficiency has been associated with neuropsychiatric disorders and depression. Additionally, folic acid deficiency has been linked to affective illnesses.

Gottschalk L, et al.: Abnormalities in hair trace elements as indicators of aberrant behavior. Comprehensive psychiatry 1991; 32(3):229-237. The authors suggest that abnormal trace mineral metabolism may be involved in aggressive behavior and that careful mineral analysis could be effective in identifying those who are predisposed to such behavior.

Rosen GM, et al.: Iron deficiency among incarcerated juvenile delinquents. J Adolesc Health Care 1985;6:419-423. This study from 1985 can be viewed as one of the early looks at the effects of iron deficiency and abnormal behavior. Through research performed in juvenile detention facilities, a high prevalence of iron deficiency was found among both male and female inmates. The study suggests further research into the problem of behavior issues and iron deficiency.

Lead Exposure and Child Behavior: American Journal of Public Health 1992; 82(10):1356-1359. This study evaluated blood lead levels of young children. The group with the highest levels of lead present in blood samples was found to score the highest in Total Problem Behavior Score checklists.

Stevens L., et al.: Phospholipids influence behavior. The Nutrition Report 1996;38:(May-June). A study performed on equal number of young boys, half with low fatty acid measures, showed that behavior problems were significantly higher in the study group with the lower acid levels. Greater number of health and learning problems occurred in the lower level group as well.

Magnesium reduces hyperactivity. Autism Research Review 1998;12(2):4. Children in this study were ages 7 to 12. After a 6-month period, the control group, which received no magnesium supplementation, was found to have behavior that worsened, whereas the other children receiving magnesium supplementation therapy had statistically improved results in behavioral assessment scales.

Walsh W, et al.: Elevated blood copper/zinc ratios in assaultive young males. Physiol Behavior 1997;49(1):327-329. Research spanning a period of 20 years has revealed abnormal trace metal concentrations in violence prone young males 3-20 years of age. This study tested the validity of the observation that young assaultive males have elevated blood copper/zinc levels when compared to those with no history of assaultive behavior.

Schmidt K, et al.: Clinical ecology treatment approach for juvenile offenders. J Behav Ecology:Biosocial 1981:2(1). It was found through this study that hair copper levels of young males classified as delinquent, was found to be at a higher level than lab norms.

Lonsdale D, Schamberger R: Red cell transketolase as an indicator of nutritional deficiency. Am J Clin Nutr 1980;33(2):205-211. In a study of patients with biochemical evidence of thiamine deficiency related to junk food diets, the adolescents especially were found to be impulsive, irritable, aggressive and angered easily.

Schrauzer GN, Shrestha KP: Lithium in drinking water and the incidences of crimes, suicides and arrests related to drug addictions. Biol Trace E.em Res 1990;25(2):105-113. Data collected from 27 counties in Texas, when adjusted for population density, show that the incidence of homicide, suicide and rape were significantly high in areas where the drinking water contained little or no lithium. Results of this study suggest that low level doses of lithium have a beneficial effect on human behavior.

[trotsky]

25. Lots of spam, no original thoughts.

You don't even understand what you're posting. You do try to make up in volume what you lack in substance, however.

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[HysteryDiagnosis]

26. You certainly have no idea about what I've had to deal with in

my life. Lucky for you. I'm making the point that heavy metals are involved with neurological disorders and that they should not be added to vaccines. Sorry about really pissing you off but it is better to be pissed off than pissed on.

[trotsky]

30. Newsflash: heavy metals aren't in vaccines.

Thimerosal was removed from all routine vaccinations years ago. Autism rates continue to increase. Are you able to make a connection between those two facts? What does it tell you?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

33. It tells me that there was enough empirical evidence to have

thimerasol removed from vaccines in the first place, in the second it tells me that mercury along with many other neurotoxins are a (now pay attention) cumulative toxin passed from mother to offspring, fish to man, air to lung. Any additional Hg for humans is probably not necessary.

Know Where It's Coming From
Each year power plants and chemical facilities create many tons of mercury pollution, which makes its way into our homes and bodies in fish.

http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/sources.asp
Two of the biggest sources of mercury pollution are chlorine chemical plants and coal-fired power plants. Chlorine plants, which use massive quantities of mercury to extract chlorine from salt, "lose" dozens of tons of mercury each year; power plants emit around 50 tons of mercury pollution annually. Facilities that recycle auto scrap are another big source of mercury pollution, pouring 10 to 12 tons of mercury into the air every year. The most common way Americans are exposed to mercury is through tuna fish.

Power Plants

Coal is naturally contaminated with mercury, and when it is burned to generate electricity, mercury is released into the air through the smokestacks. The bulk of this mercury pollution could be eliminated with the installation of pollution-control devices. Similar devices have proved very successful on municipal incinerators, which were once a significant source of mercury pollution.

But in January 2004 the Bush administration proposed to weaken and delay efforts to clean up mercury emissions from roughly 1,100 coal-fired boilers at more than 460 electric power plants. Essentially, the administration's plan treats mercury as if it were a run-of-the-mill air pollutant instead of a hazardous air pollutant, allowing the Environmental Protection Agency to avoid requiring power plants to reduce emissions by the maximum amount technologically achievable.

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[Ms. Toad]

37. Umm...I think sam sarrha is on your side.

sam sarrha post responds to trotsky's original flame, not yours.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

38. Oooops.... my bad it is fast and furious in here.... sorry sam sarrha, nt

[trotsky]

40. If you would like to politely and reasonably discuss the issue, I'm game.

But your vicious and unfounded personal attacks have no place here.

[rocktivity]

19. I've certainly accumulated enough heavy metal to have a neurolgical disease

between listening to it at full volume and getting caught in the mosh, I mean...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d4m2Txz0O_k/Sat4c1Q3vyI/AAAAAAAACro/es2QRH0awXU/s400/mosh+pit+shirtless.gif

:headbang:
rocktivity

[FirstLight]

35. Where would I find out if my dad had been exposed ...

during the Korean War?

He is 72 and exhibiting strange neurological symptoms, all they had come up with was 'pernicious anemia' but the B12 iron only helps so much and he continues to lose cognitive function and long term memory... no sign of alzheimers i believe...

he worked in communications with those big radio tubes ful of all kinds of stuff. When my parents cleaned out from under the house that I grew up in, my dad had stashed a ton of old radio parts, including the tubes under the house to "use them someday"
they were considered toxic waste by the city and he had to specially deal with the disposal...

wonder how much of that crud seeped into our home as I was growing up :scared:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

36. When I was in high school, our 8th grade science teacher gave us

mercury to play with sort of. All of us nerdy boyz thought it was the coolest stuff available and the element/mineral case was unlocked so you guessed it, we played with the stuff daily, rubbing it into coins putting them in our pockets and taking them home. The agricultural community I grew up in used all the presently banned pesticides and so forth. I got the vaccine with the SV-40 virus in it most likely. Leaded gas was all the rage.... life has not been as good as it could have been to be sure....

Your dad: Read what is of concern to you on this page... http://www.lef.org/protocols

[FirstLight]

39. great link, thanks

I'll be reading there alot i can tell :)

[HysteryDiagnosis]

41. It's amazing, since they sell stuff that has been PROVEN to assist

with myriad health conditions... their info is suspect according to the master refuters. I find the information there to be PRICELESS. Glad you found it to be worth perusing.