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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:20 AM
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vaccine ?
sorry, i did some googling, and there is so much out there that is disinfo and all that i just thought i would ask here, as i know there are knowledgeable people here.
so, my 18 y.o. is about to have her dx changed from bipolar to borderline personality disorder. this disorder sounds so much like autism to me. she definitely has had something wrong since she was a baby. and it is, like autism, a developmental problem with emotions. she has had a lot of trouble, and caused a lot of trouble, for several years. her t-doc has thought this for quite a while, but is just changing the dx now, because they have to be 18.
so, i am wondering if this is related to vaccines, and has just not been out there, because it is not dx'ed in childhood, like autism is.
i could not find much when googling.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:25 AM
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1. A friend of mine has a child with autism
her doctor said it's just a disorder that occurs and it's not known if anything causes it. This is why we need to push for more funding for autism and dispel the myths that it's a cool disorder to have like "Rainman."
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:30 AM
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2. check this thread
despite some true believers, most scientists do NOT think it's caused by vaccines.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=144611&mesg_id=144611
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:02 AM
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4. I really recommend reading the comments in this thread.
Especially skeptics.

(P.S. I'm a fence-sitter, so don't bother trying to make me out to be a nut.)


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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:08 AM
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3. Check out this post by Politicat
with several excellent links to research about autism done by scientists and medical professionals.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=247&topic_id=1299&mesg_id=1306
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:25 AM
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5. Can you explain the similarities that you see between Autism and BPD?
Here is a peice with a small section on etiology of BPD. The section references a number of studies that you might be able to follow up on in regard to etiology.

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p040743.html
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:09 PM
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7. the developmental process, i guess
the view that these things emerge at adolescence is, i think, being thrown out the window. they all seem to start in infancy, some just can't get sorted out until adulthood. autism just seems to make childhodd impossible where my daughter's seemed normal, but was not.
if autism as an inability to process emotional input, if you think that is an adequate definition, i see my kid's growth as similar to this. she was very much loved, and although we were not the happiest family on the block, she was never traumatized or abused to my knowledge. but she was, from infancy, to a certain extent, unreachable emotionally. she was one of those babies that cried and cried, and you could not console her. she did not form normal relationships, but manipulative ones, even early on.
it seems like a form of emotional blindness. while autism seems like a covering of the emotional "eyes". but in the end the result is the same. like the kittens with their eyes sown shut who did not grow a visual cortex. a part of her just did not grow, because important input was not allowed in.
i admit i know very little about either disorder. just trying to answer that nagging question of- why?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:28 AM
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6. Other pieces and resources on etiology of BPD:
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