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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:57 AM
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Ride the snake - Seismic watch
There is quite a bit of rumbling in the Alaska/Northern California area this morning.

Recent Quakes

Waiting for the ? to change on the most recent California tremor.

This map is very handy to observe the activity.

Seismic Monitor
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:15 AM
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1. So, when the poles shift again (talking big shift here) will Montana have
nice enough weather to get the sequoia forests growing again in the prairie/Missouri Breaks areas? I have seen the fossilized remains of many giant trees from an are when we had surface water and a much milder climate here. The tree remains look to have taken a hit when the Yellowstone Super Volcano had a major blow. Could the Yellowstone have blown to such an extent, along with all the seismic activity which would go along with causing the major blow, be enough to have shifted poles in the past? Montana used to have much milder weather from the looks of the plant fossils. There are lots of fern type plant remains in rock and there are all those huge tree remains turned to sandstone.

My husband grows baby sequoias in pots (inside in winter here) in hopes that he will get one or two to survive as his legacy to this area.

A friend always said we will be wearing Hawaiian print shirts, shorts, sandals and sipping on mai-tais here in January "come the big pole shift". He said not to worry much about the coastal areas though, cuz they won't be saved.

VERY cool site. Thanks for the link. Bookmarking that sucker to check often like the NOAA POES auroral activity page which is fascinating too.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:40 AM
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2. What's this "pole shift"?
The Earth's rotation axis is not going to change.

Global warming might warm things up in Montana eventually, though.

--Peter
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:56 AM
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5. hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the axis does change
and it did a bit just the other day.

As the plates shift weight on the surface, the axis has changed in the past, and will continue to change in the future. "North" is relative and not forever.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:24 PM
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7. Very slight (from the earthquake)
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 12:25 PM by pmbryant
Yes, the Earth's axis wobbles around a bit over tens and hundreds of thousands of years. It's a very gradual process.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:32 PM
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8. tens of thousands of years is a mere blink of nature's eye
When I speak of pole shift, I am speaking in VERY long periods of time. And there have been shifts in the geologic past that have been more than a few degrees, if I recall my readings at all.

Nothing is forever, not even real estate. We all build on shifting sands.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:52 AM
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3. We have a lot of sea fossils here in the Ozarks.
I may end up surfing up your way.

Yellowstone. I never really thought about much. Home of the Geysers. Only heard about the supervolcano stuff recently. I would like to see the place. If that baby blows, it's goodbye sunshine. My Seasonal Affective Disorder will kick in big time.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:14 PM
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6. Yellowstone is sorta interesting. Where I live, there are odd formations
the locals call "gumbo knobs" and/or "useless buttes". They are really odd. Little if anything grows on them. They are hard as cement most of the time and slicker than snot when wet. Observing them, I noticed they are very similar to the buckets of ash we take out of our old coal furnace. When the ash is dumped out, it mounds up and hardens. Color and texture just like the useless buttes.

Was in western Montana when Mt. St. Helen's blew and the ash fall looked much like the stuff of the "gumbo knobs" here in eastern Montana. The ash from St. Helen's that fell on Montana was small stuff, and VERY slick. Most was tiny spheres of silica. Talking to geologists about this area in the east, I learned that the 'soil' they call gumbo here is made of flattened silica plates. The stuff gets wet and slips on itself so much it is really dangerous to try and move on. Sure sounds like volcanic residue to me! Oh, yeah, and they just found diamonds not far from here, another gift from deep in the earth carried up by volcanic explosions.

All those old trees got blown down in just about the same angle, and all pointing away from the Yellowstone Magma Pool. The tree remains get exposed along ridges when the soil erodes away. I know of one example where you can clearly see 'bark' exposed along the length of a ridge and also the clear cross-section of the trunk where the might giant was felled. Lots of black layers in the strata around here too, where a lot of plant material was burned. Lots of baked clay too; there are places that look like some sort of brick mine! LOL

I knew your area was also sea bed at one time. Interesting to poke around in, huh? ;) Most Americans are unaware of the huge fault-line that lies under the Mississippi River. Whole lotta shaking and land changes in the past and in the future.

If the Yellowstone Super Volcano blows in our lifetimes, your seasonal depression WILL be bad. I, on the other hand, will be as the citizens of Pompeii, a human form, curled and crying, done in stone.

If the blow is big enough, might there be a wobble in the axis? That 8.9 the other day moved things around a bit from what I have read.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:26 PM
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9. We have caves. Bunches of caves.
In the house I lived in as a child (just around the corner from where I'm living now), my parents were having a well drilled. The drillers hit air. My dad and uncle had the area blasted out a bit and there is a huge cavern that runs for blocks. They lowered themselves down there and looked around. I am sitting on top of part of it. The University of Missouri came and checked it out years ago and sealed it off, last I heard.

Branson has a bunch of undergrounds here. Don't know what they have stored in there, but it's in the hillside and rock and big enough to drive a semi in it.
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:30 AM
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4. I did the same thing
as havocmom. I bookmarked the second site so I can check again. Great site :) Thanks HeeBGBz
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