Kids, ADHD, "Crystal & Indigo" what are connections?

[FirstLight]

My youngest son is going to the doctor Wednesday for an evaluation on what we can do for him.
(We tried to see if the Speech teacher at school could help, and there is no counseling at school...and the County Mental Health office here closed and moved to the county seat because of funding issues. His teachers have tried to be patient and supportive but the behavior is getting worse...)
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He was a twin, and re-absorbed the other one in utero during the first couple months...I was really ill and we actually SAW it happen on the ultrasound. (I mentionthis because my mom actually says his behavior is like his 'evil twin' coming out)
While I was pregnant, i was abused by his father and the docs put me on Zoloft because they said it was 'postpartum depression'... He was clearly born with PTSD, every time he heard his father's voice as an infant he would go stiff and start crying. I left the bad situation when he was 7 mos old and have been struggling to fix my own issues ever since. Had about 2 years of intense therapy before I could even function normally...It will be 6 years of freedom this January

So he started this weird thing when he was a baby...like a chanting. He would get fixated on something, sometimes like even hearing himself say a sound, and just repeat, repeat, repeat. As he became a toddler, it became phrases, then entire sentences. He has an emotional hair-trigger, and if he decided he has been wronged, he will go off on his tangent and nothing you say can bring him back. Sometimes he seems to leave his body completely, his eyes go blank. He cannot stop speaking mid-sentence, like it is physically impossible to contain himself once he starts...he HAS to get the whole thing out.
Lately he has started repeating numbers and saying things under his breath like counting. He can't admit he is wrong about ANYthing...even if you catch him in the act, he will insist that he 'didn't do it' and then will go off into emotional tangent...

While i admit it sounds like the kid needs therapy, I am finally to the point where it is obvious that his 'wiring' is just not right. I wonder if the Zoloft they gave me during pregnancy had an effect - but any studies done on the subject are inaccessible through medical journals. I know he is exhibiting some 'autism spectrum' behaviors...but still unsure what to do with that info either...

I have tried limiting sugar, food coloring and even given different herbs & supplements...but now it may be time for something Stronger. (The doctor actually said he wondered how i have made it this long with him being like he is...He's almost 7 now.)
Not asking for drug options...Just need to know what you guys think about the "new Kids" and their inability to function on our current 3D system...is he just wired for the 4th-5th dimension?

[Celebration]

1. antidepressants and pregnancy

Here is an article about some studies:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/06/antidepressant.pregnancy.newborn/index.html

Also, NAET can work pretty well with stuff like this. (Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Technique).

[FirstLight]

2. ya, still not enough info in the article...

Believe me, i have been researching this for years and can't get a definite asnwer about long term effects...and the articles that i find that may have the info I want are from PAID Medical Journals...

[Celebration]

3. They don't have all the answers

Most of the kids haven't really been followed long term. It is likely to affect different kids differently, and some not at all.

[rumpel]

14. I agree with NAET n/t

[Kind of Blue]

4. I don't know too much about the "new kids" but

I do know that my youngest sister was luckily diagnosed as autistic back in the '70s and the repetition, fixation, trance and incredibly high-pitched screaming when she was upset - well, you didn't mention that but just in case it fits - were some similar symptoms as your son is exhibiting. He might be a new kid because my sister was building constructions of Legos that she said were vehicles to be used on Mars and reading the newspaper before age 4 but couldn't recite her ABC's.

The only thing that saved her was getting her in the only school around our area for autistic kids back then. Luckily we had an astute grad student on her case who suggested the syndrome when most of us never even heard about it. He was on the ball and researched to no end for us. The school was basically about modifying behavior - the family had to learn sign language along with her because she could not talk and could sign faster than her brain could form words. I'm not saying that your son needs this but there were other behavior modification regimes she was put through. She's an amazing talker who can go off on so many tangents at once - fun keeping up with her because it all makes sense when you ask her to explain :rofl:

I suggest that as soon as possible to get your baby into such a program. It just proved invaluable to my family. My sister is considered a high-functioning autistic adult - lots of quirks but who doesn't have 'em :) :hug:

P.S. There's so much hope with this therapy because it makes the kids face and cope with their mannerisms. A few months ago, my sister called asking if she should out herself at her job because she was exhausted from pretending to be "normal" and co-workers could tell something was off - it just broke my heart - and told her, yes, do it. She did and her boss said, "Well, I was a drug addict so I know I'm weird - whatever." :rofl: We sent the gal flowers and a thank you note. Good people like that are out there and I know you'll find them - sending to you for the same nurturing angels.

on edit: punctuation to make sense

[FirstLight]

5. It seems like that is where we are headed

I have taught him to ground and do aura protection, but he is unable to hold his own in a social and exciting situation...like school or the bus, or anything like that.
Signing may be too late for him now, though I wondered \if it would help him with being able to SLOW down enough to think about his words...

He talk over people and will take the smallest thing and turn it into this huge story/tall tale ...and while it is really cool that he is so imaginative, it is exhausting because he doesn't know when to quit...he will just keep going & going...

I am thinking a combination of behavior modification therapy and maybe mild meds will help us get to a more 'normal' place. It would be nice not to have constant conflict in the house...he stirs SO much up! The physical impulsiveness and verbal outbursts are just overwhelming and disturbing to us all by now. (I am tried of being a yelling mommy, too.)

[lildreamer316]

6. OH FirstLight.

I don't have any answers, but a :hug: - and my child is also on the spectrum; althoug not exibiting many behaviors except delayed speech. I so feel for you. Mine is six. Feel free to talk anytime. I hope by putting this out to the universe you will now recieve the ideas and help that you need; and will be sending light to that effect.If I run across any pertinent info I'll pass it on ASAP.
:hug:

[OneGrassRoot]

7. Hugs to you both.....

and all who are experiencing this loving challenge.

I have no experience with this, nor information to offer, but I do hope ways of helping these children BE in this world (and ways for their parents to help with this) manifest right away for you guys. I'm sure it is very, very stressful at times.

:grouphug:

[OneGrassRoot]

8. Have you seen this?

I knew the editor years ago and used to read this magazine. It sounds really perfect for parents of Indigo/Crystal Children.

I honestly don't know if it's still free or what the deal is, but if you have time, perhaps you can check it out:

http://www.childrenofthenewearth.com/

[MorningGlow]

9. I can only offer hugz, I'm afraid

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

I don't know much about autism, FL, but it's quite apparent that it is exhausting and frustrating for both the child and his/her family. Please do try to get him some therapy so he can learn coping skills (and you can learn communication skills). Also you're doing the right thing, limiting sugar. If you can, cut out HFCS as well--a tough thing to do, as it's in everything. Removing soda from the house really helped a friend's son a lot.

[hermetic]

10. My heart goes out to you

This morning while Googling something entirely different, I found this:

One study has concluded that, for every hour of TV a child under age seven watches daily, on average, there's a 10% greater likelihood of developing ADHD. So, if a child watches ten hours TV per day, it doesn't matter if parents turn off the commercials and restrict content to education and nature channels. Soon, they'll be dealing with ADHD (and paying therapists like me to fix it).

http://www.healthy-holistic-living.com/blow-up-your-tv.html

I wish you the best.

:hug:

[FirstLight]

11. I am sure there are things i could be doing differently

even more so than I am doing...we don't have soda in the house at ALL (ick) and they drink organic juice if any, i really try to push more water...
Now i am not a total hippie momma by any measure though, I splurge on donuts for brekky, i allow tv and video game time when i am wanting to be left alone, etc... so i know that not only will the behavior modification will be for ALL of us.

Last night was a huge meltdown and it took an hour to get him to calm down...in which i had to reign in my desire to be RIGHT and have compassion and hold him and cuddle him to calm him down...

so many lessons to learn, phew!
thanks for all the hugs and caring here


the crystal indigo connection is big, I think.



Edit: LilDreamer, check out this link: http://www.crystalangelscoaching.com/links.html

[Shallah Kali]

12. Does your school system have an occupational therapist that can evaulate him too?

I was tested by one who found I have tactile defensiveness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_defensiveness which is a sensory integration disorder and can be part of the autism spectrum.

Am I remembering correctly that you are attuned to reiki? if so does your son allow you to treat him even if only for a few minutes? There is a little trick that can help balance the brain a bit with neurological conditions like parkinsons that might help a bit here as well - the patient lies with wrists crossed and ankles crossed. If the hands are crossed right hand over left then cross the ankles left over right and vice versa while the usual treatment is performed.

[FirstLight]

13. My school is not equipped, to say the least

They have a school psychologist for the district - which means she is at our school a full 1/2 day per WEEK.

I plan on following up in the new year with some family therapy, once the agression and worst of it is under control... and once my patience has a chance to mellow, too.

we are going to try some stimulant therapy, lowest dose of a newer delayed release stuff (not ritalin or adderall) I have a feeling his depression symptoms will fade once he feels beter about himself and his own focus, etc. We are going to work out the kinks and side effects at home over cmas vacation, so maybe by the New Year, we will have a New attitude, too!

[Why Syzygy]

19. "he feels better about himself"

That reminds me of what we are seeing and hearing about martial arts and yoga these days. Is there any way you can get him into a martial arts program? It builds self esteem and self control better than almost anything else.

This is a program started by Chuck Norris, and I KNOW 'we' don't like him, or agree with his political ideals. But, it is successful with kids, and might give you an idea what such a course could do for your son.

http://www.kick-start.org/

[FirstLight]

20. we have both in town

...I have been holding back from enrolling him yet because I didn't want it to be yet another stressor for him to try & follow another set of rules. I really hope by next month we are getting into that as well....
He knows about grounding, but can only do so much when he is in that anxiety state. I can relate, I never wanted to take anti depressants, but have found one that really works and i feel more normal than i have my whole life...so go figure.
Maybe the whole brain-chemistry thing is genetic as well as spiritual and generational....

[rumpel]

15. FirstLight I feel for you

I do not know much about these new children, but I also divorced my ex when my daughter was 4. He was verbally abusive and intimidating with occasional violent outburst of throwing and trashing things around the house or throwing things at me. etc.

I was not prescribed any medication during pregnancy, which may be affecting your child, but even without any of the chemicals, I have had tremendous problems with my own child.

My daughter displayed two very opposite personalities, one is the sweet caring person and the other an extremely angry and aggressive person. This was a very difficult time for us, with kidnapping/run away, anti social behavior, threat on herself and others, as they say. All the years with various therapists did pretty much nothing, since she completely saw through them. She is an old soul, and was more mature than any of her peers.

What stands out & is intriguing to me in your description is that he absorbed his twin. Please, do not believe it is an "evil twin".
While you are seeking conventional help and alternative remedies, you may want to check into "Soul Retrieval" offered by the Four Winds Society, or other energy healing practitioners. If nothing else, it can give you some insight as to what may be happening with the 2 souls merged into one. I asked for a session for my daughter, and found that a very angry paternal ancestor is sitting on her mid right side. I believe it is a conflicting energy imprint from another soul that was (perhaps still may to some degree be) affecting her.

http://www.thefourwinds.com/about-consultations.php

I personally do not know her but here is another lady
http://www.sharedwisdom.com/jill.htm
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/jkuykendall.htm

:grouphug:

[Celebration]

16. is this called "vanishing twin syndrome" or something??

I know NAET practitioners deal with this a lot. It is bound to be (at the very least) confusing. There also may be some survivor guilt.

One of my kids tried counseling, but for entirely different reasons. I had to LOL on her seeing through all the therapists. If the kid goes a few times, and they are bright enough, they catch on to the lingo and techniques.....

Energy therapies are the way to go with just about all issues like this. If they can't be dealt with that way, then biochemical.

[rumpel]

17. I don't know about the vanishing twin, but

I think we all carry a lot of our ancestors energetic imprints. It is interesting to note that Michael Newton said in his books that he finds from his research that souls enter the human body at any time they feel fit during the pregnancy, but more towards the end of the pregnancy. So I do not know what the other twin was intending in your case.

[Shallah Kali]

18. Carol Bowman has written about prebirth memories like that as well as reincarnation

In her book Return from Heaven she writes of a case of two boys with spontaneous past life pre-birth memories of how at firest they were waiting to be born into one family but one changed his mind and that preganancy miscarried. Later they were born to the sister-in-law of the first family. You can read most of it here on google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=FhuZcNaieMUC&lpg=PA171&vq=cousins&dq=return%20from%20heaven%20reincarnation&client=firefox-a&pg=PA170#v=onepage&q=%22david%20and%20molly%22&f=false

[FirstLight]

21. I did alot of research when it first happened.

It is really strange, my first boy could have also been a twin at one point too. Maybe that is just how my body proceses the eggs of males?
but my first child had 2 placentas with water in them, one in front and then his.
so the doctor delivering had speculated he could have been a twin as well. I actually saw & felt it happen with Devin, because by that time i was way more in touch with my body and also knew about the pregnancy sooner.

I remember reading or maybe having a dream about the split - that one had to stay in another dimension, almost asan "anchor" for the spirit that was coming to our 3rd dimension planet. I definately believe that as much as Devin may be an old soul, he is new to this planet in many ways...which could also have something to do with the difficulty adjusting.
Typical crystal child too. I totally wish i could do all the things they suggest for the spiritual children - no artificial anything, organic soaps, etc, better environment emotionally too... I try not to get caught up in the guilt for not being able to do it all "perfect."

There's another part of me that sees the loss of a twin as a saving grace of sorts...my body could not have sustained gestation and birth, nor the emotional and economical issues associated with twins...either at 22 with my first or at 33 with my third.


Looking at 'survivor's guilt' may be a good angle too...thanks! :hugs:

[BlueIris]

22. This is a product that has helped at least one aspie person I know:

(Not saying your kid has Asperger's, just thinking that the cognitive issues may be similar.)

http://www.fesflowers.com/mind-full.htm

I think it's the combo of Cosmos, Shasta Daisy, and Rabbit Brush essences in this one that help with Asperger-like cognitive difficulties, whether they are energetic, bio-chemical, or spiritual in nature.

[udbcrzy2]

23. My son used to do the chanting

We took him to a psychologist and he diagnosed him as tourettes (copra la la). He would chant these weird
half words, like aga aga aga over and over. The school used to punish my child for his behavior. This was
a tic and he could not help it. The assholes. Later I took him to a neurologist who said he did not have
tourettes, but had ad/hd, but I'm not really sure. He took stimulants and they really didn't help. He would
sometimes have such bad temper tantrums, just falling in the floor crying and screaming for about 1-1/2 hours.
He eventually got better (neurologist said he would be able to learn how to control it with age).

There is a book that helped. It's called Teaching the Tiger. I used to buy it and would give to his
teachers. It's an excellent guide to follow and it explains much of what my child was experiencing.

http://books.google.com/books?id=MXtzY5epqJMC&dq=teaching+the+tiger&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=TqI5S_fBIoyJnQejnaGDCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=&f=false