Does anyone here believe in ascension?

[Sanity Claws]

I am ambivalent about the idea of ascension and it causing physical symptoms. If you believe, can you tell me what has convinced you that ascension is real? Also why do you believe that physical symptoms attributed to ascension are truly due to ascension and not something else?

I'm not going to argue with you but I may ask follow up questions.

Thanks!!

[kentauros]

1. Actually, I'm ambivalent, too ;)

I read about it, but still don't know how "true" it is. I have found that it's very open to interpretation. I have no idea who to believe or what to believe...

[Sanity Claws]

6. Glad to know I'm not alone in this

[northernlights]

2. every symptom I've read ascribed to "ascension"

is explainable by normal physiological processes. Personally, I'm not even ambivalent about it. I just think "ascension" some people's way of explaining what they don't understand about life, or way of explaining normal life experiences.

[Kookaburra]

3. That's what I got from Karen Bishop's postings

Everything she described and attributed to ascension sounded more like a body's reaction to stress and/or the symptoms of menopause.

If what she believes helps her get through the day, then great. Who am I to tell her she's wrong? It didn't resonate with me though.

[Sanity Claws]

7. Part of me agrees with me

Unfortunately another part of me thinks something regarding the evolution of humanity is going on.

[MorningGlow]

4. I do--that is, I believe we're going through "something"

on our way to whatever the next phase is. But it's not so much physical symptoms as it is personal development and the growing evolution of the masses (despite the existence of the teabaggers :P ) that's convinced me of this. I believe it mainly because I have been tracking it for quite a few years now--it's not a new concept to me, by any means.

As for physical symptoms, well, no, there is no way to "prove" that certain symptoms are the result of someone's ascension process, but I have gone through certain spurts of weirdness that can't be attributed to ailments--and it is when my body is "stable" as well. I'm not menopausal (yet), for example, and my thyroid has been mostly under control.

[Sanity Claws]

8. Thanks for sharing

I wanted to know whether younger folks were having some of the same symptoms. I had dismissed Karen Bishop's symptoms as that of middle-aged aches and pains or just menopause.

[MorningGlow]

11. I think the younger the person, the less of a disturbance

My grandmother always said that people don't die of old age; they die off because it gets to a point in their lives where they can no longer cope with the changes to their world. At that point they know it's time to go and let others take over.

The way I see it, the older the person, the tougher the time with these current changes, only because they were "built" for the "old ways" and have a tougher time adapting. The younger the person, the easier it is for them to slip into the flow, because it's all they know--there's no reason to resist, because...well...resist what? Try to change it back to what? If that makes any sense.

I have my own doubts about Karen, which I've voiced here several times. I don't doubt that she was going through her own process and was completely honest about it, but I didn't think it was correct for her to announce that whatever phase she was going through, everyone else should have been going through at the same time. This process, this ascension, whatever, is highly personal; everyone is going to experience it differently, at different rates, in varying degrees of intensity. No one is more correct than another. The nice part is when we find others who are going through the same phase as we are--then we can commiserate...for a while. And likely our paths will diverge again.

We're all exactly where we need to be--all we have to do is pay attention to our instinct. If we're in the wrong place (physically, emotionally, mentally), the universe will give us a big "AHEM" and will "course correct" for us. We just have to hear the "AHEM" and let it help us get to the place we're supposed to be.

[northernlights]

13. we are all growing, always

that is part of the definition of life. We are growing, or we are dying. I just don't see the need to give it the name "ascension." To me, at this point, after what I've read of "ascension" on this board (and some of the linked things to this board, "ascension" and growth are synonymous. Some people resist growth, others welcome it.

I do see us collectively going through an intense set of "growing pains" right now, in terms of large, collective experiences that force change. Examples of collective growing pains might be things like 9/11, the wars, Katrina, the tsunamis, the large earthquakes, economic collapse and now Deepwater. Who knows what tomorrow will bring. But these things all provided some degree of shock to our psyches, depending on our personal vantage point at the time of the event. Both our physical vantage point (I'm sure Katrina felt very different from downtown NO than, say, midcoast Maine. Likewise, the war in Iraq is a much different experience from downtown Iraq than anytown USA.) And our spiritual vantage point (9/11 bringing out the bullies, shutting down the peacemakers, etc.).

[get the red out]

5. I have trouble

I am still learning so I would have trouble telling the difference from the typical shaking out of more of my own emotional baggage, which I do fairly regularly. We all reach more and more levels of understanding about humanity, ourselves, and the synchronicities in our life if we attempt to change spiritually IMO, so I would be very hard-pressed to understand assention as a mass experience, not that it won't or isn't happening, just that I have trouble understanding at my present level.

But I agree with MG too, humanity is progressing as a whole, as aggravated as I get at hateful backwards thinking in so many, I can see this. To me it is happening in the small things more than anything on cable news.

[Sanity Claws]

9. Do you experience any of the so-called physical symptoms

of ascension?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience.

[get the red out]

12. I brushed up on the symptoms

I had read the symptoms before and remembered that I could say I was having several, so I looked them up again and below are the ones that I have. I feel I could also attribute these to stress this past year, huge amounts. And facing some parts of my past (mainly childhood stuff) with a greater realization of the truth. I have had a huge drive to experience more spiritual healing during the past year, huge. But that could be a reaction to internal stress and I have to admit now, depression, that has crept up inside me since 2008 as well as a reaction to seeing doctor prescribed medication almost literally destroy my husband's kidneys a few months ago. We have both become more interested in alternative medicine as a result of that, and both took Reiki training. I seem also to have turned some kind of corner where I often feel I really believe in the spiritual, instead of just want to believe or just consider the spiritual.

Here are the symptoms I found online that I believe I have from time to time.

Feeling as though you are in a pressure cooker or in intense energy; feeling stress.

A feeling of disorientation; not knowing where you are; a loss of a sense of place.

Memory loss. A great abundance of short term memory loss and only vague remembrances of your past.

Loss of identity.

Heightened sensitivities to your surroundings. Crowds, noise, foods, TV, other human voices and various other stimulations are barely tolerable. You also overwhelm very easily and become easily overstimulated.

You don't feel like doing anything. You are in a rest period, 'rebooting'. Your body knows what it needs. In addition, when you begin reaching the higher realms, 'doing' and 'making things happen' becomes obsolete as the New energies support the feminine of basking, receiving, creating, self-care and nurturing.

An intolerance for lower vibrational things of the 3D, reflected in conversations, attitudes, societal structures, healing modalities, etc. They literally make you feel 'sick' inside.

Days of extreme fatigue.

Experiencing emotional ups and downs; weeping.

A wanting to go Home, as if everything is over and you don't belong here anymore. Text

I have no idea if ascension is real, as I have read it online, with people moving to a higher vibration. But I am certain that I have been undergoing internal emotional change and hopefully growth, which I have experienced in life before.

[LaurenG]

10. Ascension is what you make of it

In my opinion it is an inner journey. It doesn't mean that things on the outside don't happen just that the process is going on in our own psyche. Moments of clarity turn into ways of being. Being our best selves doesn't work if the worst of us is kept silent in the dungeon of our subconscious so we are introduced to ourselves through others who we dislike, despise or hate. Noticing all of our feelings and really knowing that none of us is better than another is a part of "ascension".

We are all connected and we all have the same human issues, just in different order. To me ascension is partly about coming back to who we really are, but with the wisdom brought in from our experiences.

You can still be "enlightened" and be angry, and you might ascend your ego once you understand what it is. There is more to this of course, (there always is) but in a nutshell, it's what happens to us on the inside that forces us to surrender our old ideas about who we think we are and why we think we're here and of course how we move forward once we are comfortable with allowing things to be as they are on the inside. Once we can get that I think the outside follows as a natural progression of educating, accepting and nurturing ourselves.

[BanzaiBonnie]

14. Nice, in a nutshell Lauren

I think you've expressed this beautifully.

It is after all the inside of us that makes us who we are. We a humans being. We are here to experience this dimension.

[Fire Walk With Me]

15. The physical body can react to positive and negative changes in the emotional and mental bodies

as well as the dimensions one is able to access. You may not grow physical wings, but we are currently able to commute the higher dimensions quite easily. And, they are coming to be anchored throughout the planet, proffering the coming age. Physical/emotional/mental symptoms occur when any portion of us is incompatable with these higher vibrations, and must cleanse in order to gain vibrational parity, or syntony. Depending upon the person, this can be horrific in nature and may result in death, if they choose to not continue moving into the higher vibrations. This is a personal choice, and it may be changed. Look for this to be difficult for those like Dick Cheney.

I can sense "ascension". This is a time of being able to blow through vast amounts of karma, and to gain amazing amounts of positive growth in a small period of time. Those who can meditate in the mental plane will find this to be quite true, and will already be taking advantage.

The vibration is continuing to increase, along with the not-so-gentle nudging of the planetary influences, towards Authenticity and positive change.

Please to enjoy.

[Sanity Claws]

16. FWWM, great explanation

Can you share your personal experience? Did you experience any physical symptoms as part of the ascension process? If you did, how are sure that the symptoms are due to ascension?

[Fire Walk With Me]

17. I just wrote a huge reply and lost it through brushing the wrong key

which caused a page change.

"Evidently not" :rofl:

I'd just like to say that we are indeed going through a self-examination period in which all that is not Authentic to ourselves, is strongly urged to be recognized and released. This can be uncomfortable to the degree one engages or ignores... These are the sorts of things I'm going through, and they don't tend to be so physical as emotional and mental.

I can confirm that as I am honest about myself to myself, my clarity and connection to the mental realm and thus manifestation ability, definitely increases. The phrase, once posted here on ASAH, comes in extremely useful: "What am I doing to create this?"

The planet is definitely rising in vibration. Those who must change to keep up will experience discomfort, confusion, a rise in energy to make things right, to change things about ourselves for the better, to be Authentic to self in every way. Those who are already past those lessons and/or are already at a generally higher vibration will not experience this part of the Shift so very much.

We are choosing, or not choosing, individually, to move to a higher vibration and to engage in those related lessons and experiences. If we are creatures of love and tolerance, we will find easy access to the 4th dimension and its characteristics/experiences. The same with others. Those who are moving from the 3rd dimension will begin to experience the 4th dimension as their overall vibration lifts to that syntony. The shift from one general/dimensional vibratory level to another results in personal change, experienced as discomfort or even simply joy in various ways, depending upon the individual.

Peace, hope that helps somewhat.

Edit: I feel that "ascension" is the movement from any general vibratory level into any higher level, although the opportunity to Go All The Way is available, if we choose it, and that may be an "absolute" version or description of "ascension".