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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 01:51 PM
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Are you Astrologers seeing anything indicating a possible attack soon?
I saw this over in GD and wondered if any of you guys had seen anything that would lend support to or even discredit this discussion?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2846220

12/27 in Houston?

Several days ago on the web board of Godlikeproductions, a new poster appeared calling himself "German Guy." (Here is the thread, but be warned: because he is unregistered anyone is able to post under the name, and he has attracted several obvious copycats and hoaxers. Also, the thread is now well over 1,000 posts long, most of them chaff and nonsense.) He said he was a recently retired agent of the BND, with sensitive information regarding an impending staged nuclear attack on American soil. Specifically, Houston, December 27, perpetrated by what he called the "Hidden Hand" faction of the CIA, Mossad and SAS.

I should note right now that at least two respondents on "German Guy"'s thread have already, and separately, taken this threat warning to the FBI.

The website went down Friday night, and at the time of this posting is not up again. It's likely something as innocuous as a problem with the server. However, as I was reading German Guy's posts, I entertained the possibility that he really was BND, and weighed the chances of the site remaining up in that event. So I archived the thread...



I wondered are any of you are sending up warning flags too?


Laura

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 06:05 PM
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1. i read a thread that a physic thought Bush would be assasinated
by an Isreali retired agent?

can't remember where tho.....
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:02 PM
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2. and wouldn't we see something in the charts of those we love?
I (and my family) work in Houston. Wouldn't my mother's/husband's/daughter's charts reflect a loss of daughter/wife/mother, respectively (and vice versa)?
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momzno1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:48 PM
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3. not if you use this information and get out of town...
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:28 AM
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6. If I left town every time Houston "might" be in danger
I wouldn't live here. :P
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:21 AM
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4. Difficult to tell
With most methods of divination, it is difficult to be ultra-specific. Although, I have met a few people who can give times, dates, places, etc. I know when i use certain tools, I get a "general" idea that is more than coincidence, but at the same time, I don't get exact things...well, on occasion I have. I believe some of that (non-specifics) is because we all have personal definitions of things and that makes reading the signs that much more challenging. Example: What is terrorism? There are many definitions and types of acts that would fall under that heading. So, if someone say an "attack" it could come in the form of a massive power outage or something even worse.

Two months before the attack in NY, DC, and PA, I had a dream that a small plane rammed both buildings I managed. Coincidentally, they were often referred to as the North and South Towers. After 9-11, I didn't even think about it, until a friend had mentioned I had a dream like that a few months before, but it was specific to my area. Therefore, I would have NEVER thought something like 9-11 would have been revealed to me, especially since I am in Oklahoma. The other part of that dream that was so specific, was that the day (in the dream) was so clear, not a cloud in the sky...much the same way 9-11 in NY was described.

So why did I add the above deluded thought? I use it as an example of why predictions can be so "off" when they are actually right "on!" Our psyches deal with what we know, or put it in terms we understand, then it is up to us to figure it out. So, it is very possible that the next attack will be seen by several people, but only a very small few will get it "just right."

Does this make sense or is it just me? :)
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:10 AM
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5. The "sight" is very individual, and specific to each person.
I think that every person has a specific visual vocabulary--and a lot of times images have different meanings to each person. (How's THAT for demonstrating my poor communication skills? This is difficult to talk about without sounding really strange.)

Just like words have different meanings to different people, so do images. Your dream was for YOU not for the public at large. IF you chose to interpret that dream for everyone else that is fine--but it was your message from your reality. Dreams work much the same way, so do physical symptoms.

When I read Tarot, it is all based on images in the cards that seem to "jump" out at me. There are specific associations for certain cards--sure-- but more often than not, what I pull out of readings is based on what aspects of the each card jump out at me when I see them. Each one of those images carries a meaning for me (personally) and I have to work through what the meta message is.

I know that a lot of our astrologers are quite good. I also know that some have spoken before about specific feelings they have about upcoming events and that is what I was checking on (mostly) with my post. I'm wondering if there is anything that anybody has felt/seen that would indicate that it really IS a dangerous period in the next couple of weeks. I'm wondering if anybody has found anything that would indicate that the US (or parts of it) is in danger of attack right now or in the immediate future.

I'm gonna sound flip, but I'm wondering if anybody has had any dreams of gas stations burning or any other catastrophic visions surrounding the gas/petrol industry... Any visions of towns burning? Anything at all that would maybe contradict or support the idea that Houston is in danger...

Thanks!


Laura


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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 04:49 PM
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8. Good explanation!
I think you did a great job explaining what I was trying to say. I also read Tarot the same way you do. I know the "meanings" but, I let images and impressions "jump out" at me and I also read with instinctual feeling.

Since you asked...On May 6, 2004 in the afternoon (my nap time), I dreamed that several buildings were destroyed in a methane explosion. I know in the dream that the weather was cold, but when I woke up, I was so convinced that it was something I had seen on the news that I scanned the TV and internet, only to find nothing. It was a VERY realistic dream. The blast was centralized in an urban area, with the central area (start of the explosions?) being a mall or shopping center of some sort.
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Ladybast Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:18 PM
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9. Just today I have seen, not a vision, but a news article
http://www.trackingterrorism.com/Default.asp?dismode=article&artid=1297&comm=1

Terror attack the top danger of LNG transport, study finds
Source: Copley News Service | 6:53:45 PM


A terrorist attack on a tanker carrying liquefied natural gas could ignite a fireball that would injure people and damage property almost a mile away, government researchers said in a report released yesterday.

The study is expected to play a role in the intense debate that has emerged in California and other states about the construction of terminals to handle imports of the fuel, commonly referred to as LNG. Several facilities have been proposed, from Baja California to the Ventura County coastline. A 167-page unclassified version of the report was released by the Department of Energy.

Conducted by Sandia National Laboratories, the report studied potential hazards of an accidental or intentional LNG tanker spill. It said that risks from accidental spills, resulting from collisions and groundings, "are small and manageable with current safety policies and practices."

The researchers studied several "credible" scenarios for terrorist attacks, including ramming, hijacking, concealed bombs, a "USS Cole-type attack" and an airplane attack."The consequences from an intentional breach can be more severe than those from accidental breaches, particularly in densely populated areas," the report noted. The study recommended several security measures.

(more)

http://www.trackingterrorism.com/Default.asp?dismode=article&artid=1297&comm=1
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:31 AM
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11. It makes sense to me
I had a horrible dream that my brother died, but all that really made sense in the dream was that he was down by the river. I woke up in a cold sweat because it was so awful. I told one of my friends about it that day. My brother was killed in a car accident down by the river a couple of months later. But there was no way that I could have done anything for him with the weirdness of the information that I got from the dream.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:18 AM
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12. Your loss
I am so sorry for your loss! Sometimes, I think we 'see' things before an event to prepare us, not as a way to prevent the event. I believe that there are things that are pre-destined and others are free will. Sometimes, we can stop a 'free-will' event, which will interfere with a destined event, but not often.

I wish I could say something, anything, that would make you feel better. I don't know how long ago your loss was, but I know that the pain only subsides, and never disappears. So, I will say....

Brightest Blessings to you!
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:35 PM
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13. Thank you for your kindness
It did happen nearly 30 years ago and the pain has mostly subsided but sometimes something triggers a memory that makes it seem like it was only yesterday. I have the comfort of knowing however that my brother is always with me in spirit and I look forward to seeing him again when my time comes.

Maybe you're right about the reason for the dream. I never really looked at it like that before. Happy Solstice to you.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:46 AM
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15. Psychics usually cannot give "time" because
there is no such thing as time. Thus the saying "all time is as the same time"

Time and space are a man made "illusion". When psychics tune in they are not tuning in to the "man-made".

Astrology is different. Astrology is mathematics and can to a very close degree pinpoint "time and space" of occurrence.

That being said, I have not looked. But the potential for nuclear attack in this country is certainly "When", not "If".
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 12:38 PM
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7. Here's Houston's natal chart...
I don't have a birth time, so I just used noon.



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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:42 AM
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10. I'm not an astrologer, but I'm
an "information junkie" so I follow many of them so that's almost as good! I follow mostly Vedic astrologers, because I consider them to be very accurate.

As far as any attacks in the near future, I have read a variety of assessments. There seems to be a spectrum of predictions, some are very gloomy about the near future. I've read that Bush will be assassinated, that Bush will keel over from a heart attack, that Cheney will die from a heart attack (more believable!), that Bush I will die from a heart attack and so on.

Lots of gloomy news. Because I'm a statistician at heart, I look for trends that will give me an indication that they're onto something. (If 10 astrologers say the same thing, then they've got my attention!!!)

Here's one of my favorites, Chakrapani Ullal. He's the most upbeat of them all - maybe it has something to do with the fact that he's living in Los Angeles and making a very good living providing astrology to the stars (in Hollywood, that is!). http://www.chakrapani.com/

Anyway, he says, "The question is whether there will be another attack of the magnitude of September 11th upon the United States by the terrorists. Many people think it is possible. I do not think it is possible in the near future. The only thing that is possible is something of the nature of suicide bomber attacks in the cities or crowded places. The effect will be on a much smaller scale than the attack on the World Trade Center".

Well, it's only 4 days away, so we'll see.

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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:58 AM
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14. I am not an astrologer. I am an intuitive.
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 03:59 AM by Gryffindor_Bookworm
I sense nothing about 12/27. I sense something about February/March, not as big as 9/11, but significant.

Edited to add: my pre-cog of 9/11 was a dream of a gray, colorless street with tall buildings, absolutely covered in ashy dust, and blood running down the streets like water. Sirens in the background.

My intuition about February or March of next year is not nearly so specific yet. :shrug:
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:49 AM
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16. AHA - the
lurking psychics show themselves.

Welcome fellow travelers.

:hi:
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 04:37 PM
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17. a lot of activity around the Pacific 'ring of fire'
in the last week. 8.1 Earthquake south of New Zealand 3 days ago.
8.9 earthquake off Sumatra yesterday - world's largest since 1964.
11,000+ people dead (still counting) in Indonesia, Thailand, India & Sri Lanka from resulting tsunami.
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