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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:34 AM
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Do you all remember my "Constructive Anger" question? I found an answer-& something else too:
Where I asked did you think there was such a thing, and could it be energy used for positive things as well as negative?

Surprise surprise, the answer landed smack in front of me about a month ago,and I just now got around to posting, because I thought you all might like to read what I found.
I bought "Ask and It Is Given" by Abraham-Hicks over 2 months ago...of course it kinda fell into my lap (go figure).
So I'm flipping through it and found the section on the Emotional Guidance System and the Emotional Scale.
The scale goes as follows:
The Emotional Guidance Scale:

1.Joy/Knowledge/Empowerment/Freedom/Love/Appreciation
2.Passion
3.Enthusiasm/Eagerness/Happiness
4.Positive Expectation/Belief
5.Optimism
6.Hopefulness
7.Contentment
8.Boredom
9.Pessimism
10.Frustration/Impatience/Irritation
11.“Overwhelment”
12.Disappointment
13.Doubt
14.Worry
15.Blame
16.Discouragement
17.Anger
18.Revenge
19.Hatred/Rage
20.Jealousy
21.Insecurity/Guilt/Unworthiness
22.Fear/Grief/Depression/Despair/Powerlessness


The author is giving an example of how to consciously move up the scale to feeling better; using anger as the emotion. Here's the one paragraph I'm sure I'm allowed to post:

"Why would anyone want to discourage my better-feeling anger?

Often, from a very resistant vibration such as depression or fear, you will already, instinctively, even unconsciously, discovered the pain-relieving thought of anger. But there are so many who have convinced you that your anger is inappropriate-but of course, they are not inside of you, so they cannot feel the improvement that the angry thought really is-that they often counsel you against your anger...only to leave you back in your former state of depression. But when you consciously know that you have chosen an angry thought and it has brought you relief, then you can consciously know that you can move from the angry thought to a less resistant one such as frustration, and then up the Emotional Guidance Scale you go-right back into your full alignment."

So it turns out I was doing ok with what I was feeling, considering. The challenge is to keep moving in a positive emotional direction instead of a negative one. It helped me be less judgmental about my emotions,and to understand why the anger felt "good". I was giving myself hell for feeling at all good about being angry. Now I clearly know why. However,this also brings up the idea that I must have been more depressed than I was aware of. Hmmm.

I hope than can help some others view your emotions in a different way also. I think I'm not alone-it's easy to feel something and then feel wrong for feeling it--if that makes any sense. I believe the huge amount of info in the movie (The Secret) did not allow for nuances such as this to be told, and this could help someone understand the process a bit better.



The other thing:

I don't remember if I was active in this fourm back in April when my husband had the huge car wreck that started our hardships (really strong lessons?) this year. He hit a minivan that pulled onto the highway in front of him (who does that? anyway..) in the rear going 75mph. He was almost charged with 7 different charges, but escaped with one instead, thank the Universe. It was a HUGE wake-up call for him-but this is all another story. The point is that this wreck totaled our family car, which I did NOT have collision on.(Duh!) We have not been able to fix or buy another one since. (I am affirming this is changing..)

ANYway, the pertinent point is that a few nights after this happened, I had found my Shakti Gawain tapes with the Pink Bubble Technique and some other meditations that they give you in Silva, and had loaded them into my mp3 player and worked with them.

DISASTER.He lost his job 2 days later, or the next day, I'm a bit fuzzy.(the one that paid him $150 a shift PLUS tips)
None of the things I envisioned for MY self panned out either.Yes, I was taking into consideration his free will; I am very cautious in that area. I was seeing things happening for me, and in relation my family. However, his loss of this really good job put us all in a bind. Then the insurance co. called to say the ppl in the van are trying to collect something serious. Etc.

So here I am wondering what in the hell is going on in the universe that I go and meditate and things get WORSE. I immediately stopped, and have been deadly afraid of doing anything of the sort since. Hope you can understand!

Today as I'm reading further in the book above, I find this:
"Sometimes people say 'Abraham, is it normal for all hell to break loose in someone's life when they begin the Mediation process?'{Lil interjects to say this is one of the processes outlined in the book} And we say yes,because you are bringing yourself to a place of heightened sensitivity so that your formerly achieved patterns of lower vibration are now less comfortable to you."

Which is also apparent in Karen's writings--but I had not seen this applied directly to meditation before. I must have had some serious stuff to clear out!
I wanted to know if others here have had similar experiences with your meditation and what you did to deal with it and work with it.
I'd like to hear your take on this.

Thanks for reading my long diatribe.....

:silly:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:49 AM
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1. This did not happen to me when I began to meditate, lildreamer.
The only thing that happened for me was that I felt a bit more connected with Source in my everyday life.

I'm glad that you're finding material that resonates with what you're going through.

In reference to anger for me, I know that it usually makes me feel out of balance, which always interferes with my connection to Source and, therefore, my ability to manifest what I want in my life. I can only speak for myself though, and, of course, there are exceptions.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:23 AM
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2. I love finding material that I can test my experiences with!
I believe living and experiencing are all very personal - that what positive for some may be negative for others, etc.

For me, constructive anger has been very useful and positive in helping me discover who I am and what I want, and how to establish clear boundaries with some people who are "hard of hearing".....as it were....:-).......and definitely, as you mention, to rise above paralysing depression.

Also using constructive anger helped me be assertive in being a good Mom - whereas I was always too timid to fight for what I wanted and felt was right, with my 2 children I learned and developed by using my anger in a positive way to stand up for very important issues.

As far as meditating opening up negative stuff to be dealt with...sure, I can understand this process in some people very well. Personally I did not experience it in this way, but that might have been because I had already spent over a decade working on it through psychotherapy and my own personal work with help from great teachers through books.

I believe we ALL have serious stuff to work out. But actually, lildreamer, meditating for only 2 days and getting a disaster response seems a little unlikely, and if I were you I would try doing some visualization techniques again....in all likelihood the chaos was just something whose time had come to be addressed. Visualizations can be powerful and just plain FUN.

:hi: :hug:

DemEx
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:45 PM
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3. Nail on head there.
"whereas I was always too timid to fight for what I wanted and felt was right, with my 2 children I learned and developed by using my anger in a positive way to stand up for very important issues."

I believe this is the crux of my personal problem, a feeling that I was not allowed to be angry, and in reality I am a very passionate person. This is part and parcel of why sometimes it feels "good" to me to be angry. And yes, having a child has helped, but my loving husband who has allowed me to be totally who I am is a big part of it.

Eh, anyway. I'm just a little gun-shy on the meditation thing, as much as I want to do it. We can't afford anything else right now going crazy.
I hope I will just know when the time is right.
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