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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 07:12 PM
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Bye All...
I'm on indefinite hiatus. I've had more than my fill of DU, GD and even some of the smaller forums where I used to feel welcome. Apparently my skin is far too thin, and I'm much toooo sensitive to post and be an active member of a community that uses laws and records on the books to advocate for racism.

I have no tolerance whatsoever for cyber bullies and to me that is all any of this has been about. A core group of "individuals" intent on being right and shouting down those that come to this board for support and understanding as progressives. I've watched it happen with the glbt community, women, Jews and now the African American community and frankly I've had enough.

Kindly spare me reminders of first amendment rights, it's only words, blah, blah, blah. I'm well aware of all of it...all of it. :eyes:

I expected better and maybe that is part of my problem...I expect. I hope. Much like King did in his day perhaps--to hope of a time when the law wouldn't enable people to make racist remarks against others and be protected. I hope for such a day as well and see nothing at all wrong with a brave woman willing to take the time to do what she can within the legal system to challenge it.

Apparently I've spent my time and money in the wrong community and I've had enough. I've been hurt beyond words by the fact that some seem more intent on being right, than being kind. On arguing over listening (reading). How can any of us call ourselves progressives when no one is willing to do the work required for "progress"? All of it saddens and sickens me. Perhaps I just need to go to a place OFF LINE where passion like mine would be put to use and appreciated. I don't know right now...Maybe I'm done with all things political. The ugliness of it all is overwhelming to say the least.

Maybe I need to concentrate more on the issues we discuss here...again, I don't know, as I'm in too much of a snit right now to even see straight.

Thank you ALL for the love and support you've offered. I've appreciated it more than you could ever know. I'm not saying that I'm leaving you permanently--as I sincerely doubt that I could :hug: I'm just saying It's obvious to me that I need a break from this. It's taken it's toll on me.

Be well all,
bliss :)
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 07:21 PM
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1. I know how you feel, bliss....
but can just say that I've been through this, have taken breaks - never for very long :evilgrin: - and come back to DU time after time, always with a slightly different (wiser) attitude.

And still love DU with all its imperfections and unacceptable shortcomings!

Have a really good break, bliss, hope to see you back before too long.

:hug:

DemEx
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:30 PM
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29. Thanks DemEx...
I missed you guys, so I'm back. :hi: :hug:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 07:26 PM
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2. oh bliss
I'm so sorry that you've had that experience.

It strikes me as ironic though since after the midterms, I've perceived much more hope and far less flaming though I don't frequent the groups you mentioned except for GD and one generally has to put their cyber armor before going there.

The resurgance of small minded bigotry in the culture in general has been shocking to me though as I had truly thought that was a thing of the past.

I hope you find the hingepoint and nourishment in real life you seek.

If you need to shine your light elsewhere for a while then do so. I wish you great luck and I'm sure your guidance is on target.

Your contributions will be missed.

Do come back when you feel comfortable to do so.

Hope it's soon.

Great Blessings to you dear and feel free to contact for support anytime.



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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 07:26 PM
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3. It's tough. I found the racism shocking here and especially
that it seems okay to a lot of the moderators. IF it's bad here, it's even worse outside of DU. However, I have decided to stick it out and to try to put information out there that I have although I know it's not enough. There are many DUers who are not bigoted so I stay for them. If we all go away then they win.

However, I'm not trying to convince you to stay. I want you to know I always appreciated your input :hug: and come back when you feel right about it.

Cleita
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:28 PM
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27. Hi Cleita...
I'm glad you're here and glad that you take the time and make the effort to speak up in the main forums. I've thought so much about the nature of DU and whethe it's worse here or in the real world.

Sometimes I feel like it's worse here, because I "expect" more (better) because it's a "progressive board." In that sense, it's merely my expectation that makes it feel worse. I also feel that sometimes the anonymity of the internet allows a lot of people to say and do things, that they wouldn't necessarily say to one's face. So sometimes cyberspace in general seems more harsh.:shrug:

But in spite of all of that--I'm grateful for this little part of DU--where it's calm and peaceful. :hug: Thanks!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 07:32 PM
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4. It is certainly wise
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 07:34 PM by votesomemore
to take a break from politics now and then; especially when it makes you feel hopeless. I don't get into any of the fracas out there. Could well be others don't know when it is time to take a break.

Hope to see you feeling chipper again. :hug:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:29 PM
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28. Hello votesomemore!
Breaks are good--but I missed everyone here! Thanks for the :hug: :hi:
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 07:36 PM
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5. I hope you will come back soon
Edited on Fri Nov-24-06 07:41 PM by OhioBlues
I too understand and have posted very little (compared to previously). It is really hard to come to terms with this stuff sometimes.

I used to get so upset that I couldn't tell if I really belonged here either. I try really hard not to but sometimes I can't help feeling that no matter what I say or do here it just doesn't matter. There are too many other voices willing to try and make me wrong.

Then I realized that it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if they think I'm wrong I just sneak in a few things here and there and take a break when I just can't stand it.

Just know that no matter what, you can always come here and someone will virtual hug you and dust you off and send you love.

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:24 PM
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26. Hi OhioBlues...
It's really nice to hear that I'm not alone, and I'm not the only one to get flustered and frustrated with the main boards. It's so nice to have this place--I love this area. I can't stay away from all of you for long. :hug:
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 09:36 PM
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6. Hi bliss,
I am also one of those, who only venture into a few forums. Sometimes, even reading the headlines in the main discussion page is enough.
There is a lot of venom and negativity, which I do not need, either.

It may be a refreshing experience to go out there, too. ;)

Never mind the other forums for a while, just drop in here - even if it's just to say hi, your are part of us-

In time, those who have not awakend and are still in the old energy will eventually re-member. This country has a lot of heavy karma to work through, it will take time, but once it's done it will shine.

:hug:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:22 PM
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25. I love this post, rumpel!
:loveya: and I certainly appreciate your sharing this with me. Thank you. :hug: The prodigal has returned, at least here (this forum) for now. Thanks for the nice words about me, :blush: I certainly appreciate what you said.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 10:09 PM
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7. Ah, bliss, I know what you mean.
As I often say, some people on DU are just like the FReepers, only with better grammar and spelling. But they still have "attitudes" and views that I just can't swallow, including racism.

Your need for a break is completely understandable, but like others have said, I hope you continue to stop by this forum. Cyber hugs, healing thoughts, and positive energy are always available to you.

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:20 PM
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24. LOL SeattleGirl...
that made me laugh!

I shouldn't allow myself to get so angry. Sadly some just don't know any better, and in such cases anger is probably the wrong emotion to utilize. ;)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:58 AM
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8. Well, swing by A, S & AH every once in a while, anyway.
And if you do return--stay out of General Discussion. That place is toxic. But maybe you do need a nice, comfortable break. Breaks are good, as they restore energy and confidence. Best of luck.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:17 AM
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9. STRONGLY seconded!
I will really miss your kind presence here. Please, do check in..

I had this same problem about mid-summer, which is when I started seriously frequenting this group. I post now here,and in the Lounge, but just read the other two, WHEN I can stomach it. Please, please don't be gone too long, we need your strong positive loving energy.:hug:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:15 PM
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23. Thanks, Lildreamer and BlueIris...
:hi::grouphug:

I'm back!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 02:53 PM
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10. I love you for your kindness, passion and idealism, bliss_e. However, these things...
can cause you to burn out when you feel as though you're constantly fighting against the world and it's not making any difference. When it also happens in what you feel is a community of like-minded individuals, it's even more disheartening.

I support whatever you have to do to take care of yourself, my friend.

:hug::hug:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:14 PM
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22. Hi Dream...
:hi: :loveya:

I was so angry, and hurt to a degree too.
I needed some time, and had gave myself a time period (to be away. But before it was over I missed you all. Given some of the pm's I recieved it didn't take me long to miss you guys. So here I am. :blush:
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 04:43 PM
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11. .
Love you, Bliss.

I'm so saddened, so shaken ... I don't know what to say. You ARE a spot of light on those forums - even when it seems that no one else hears what you are trying to say!

Come back to us when you've rested & healed - when you feel you're ready.

I'll miss you & keep you close to heart till then.:pals:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:11 PM
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21. Hi dj...
I'm back. I can't stay away from all of you for long. I love this area of DU--it's so wonderful, as are all of those in it! ;) Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate them and you. :hug:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 05:00 PM
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12. bliss
I'm just hopin' you are feelin' the LOVE.

best again,
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:10 PM
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20. Yes...I feel the love, stella...
there's no board like this on DU. I could never stay away for long. I'd miss you all too much! The energy here is healing. ;)
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 07:50 PM
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13. aw shoot
I sure am sorry to hear this.

Well, take your much-needed hiatus but be aware we will be missing you. You are a much-valued poster here.




Cher
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:09 PM
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19. NJCher--
:hug: Thank you--you're so sweet!
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 08:41 PM
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14. Many of us who have done hand to hand combat
on GD have felt this way.
And we have had to take some time to
regroup and repair the damage done to us.

Standing up for what is right is not always
easy. It should be, but it isn't.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 01:43 PM
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15. Yep. I just emerged bruised and battered from a thread
put up by momcat with some figures TIA had done about the recent election. I stood up for TIA who isn't here to stand up for himself against many self proclaimed math genuises. I was called a math retard (which is true, but do they have to be so rude about it?). I stopped short of getting tombstoned with an answer I didn't post from one jackass who insists on posting my math ineptness from other threads for eveyone to see.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 01:46 PM
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16. Good grief, some people!
I'm sorry Cleita. Sheesh:hug:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 01:51 PM
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17. Some people just like to put others down.
They don't need much of an excuse and off they go.
Helps them overcome their own feelings of inadequacy.
Ignore them.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:33 PM
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30. I agree...
My theory--the bigger one's personal insecurities, the more of an ass one makes of themself in cyberspace. The internet allows many to say things they would probably never dare to say if they were face to face with you. In other words, the bigger the ass on the boards, the bigger the coward in real life. ;)

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:38 PM
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18. At least you
are not a social retard. I'm sorry, I had to laugh at this. I'm glad you controlled yourself. They would love nothing more than to incite a tombstone, is my hunch. It isn't funny when you are worked up and in the fray, but really. That's the best they can do? Point out someone else's mistakes? That is pretty weak.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:35 PM
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31. Thank you everyone!
that posted here to share their thoughts and well wishes. I really appreciated it. Rather than draw unnecessary attention to myself, I decided to just post responses here and not clutter up the board with a new thread.

Thanks again for all the support, encouragement and hugs! I appreciate you ALL so much!

Hugs,
bliss :hi:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-29-06 12:16 AM
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32. Check your PM, my friend.
:hug:
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