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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:26 PM
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Diagnosis and Treatment Needed, on Starlight News (about the filibuster)
Edited on Fri May-20-05 12:27 PM by Nancy Waterman
http://starlightnews.com

When a cancer begins to grow somewhere in a person’s body, initially it is easy to think it is a pulled muscle or an upset stomach or some other minor ailment. But after a while, hopefully a short while, denial becomes impossible and correct diagnosis with appropriate treatment must begin. If not, the malevolent cancer will stealthily, but persistently, spread and parasitically devour more and more of the health of the organism.

The avoidance of truth handicaps a person from effectively dealing with events, just as the wrong or ignored diagnosis leads to ineffective treatment in an illness. The false justification used for the Iraq War provides a recent example. Remember the mushroom cloud and the thousand tons of sarin gas? Remember the yellow cake from Africa and the aluminum tubes? Well-hidden underneath all the frightening rhetoric, of course, was a neoconservative plan for American global hegemony and the desire for greater control of the oil-rich Middle East. Had we known what the war-mongers really intended, had we known that there was no imminent threat to America, there would have been no war. But we were handicapped by the misinformation campaign, always directed to look in the wrong direction, while our fate was sealed in a deadly and seemingly endless quagmire which is now hemorrhaging the strength of the nation.

At present, the battle over the Senate filibuster is also being described as everything other than what it really is. According to Republicans, the filibuster battle is an issue of “fairness”. They argue that it is “unfair” not to allow an up-or-down vote on Bush’s judicial nominees, conveniently forgetting all of the Clinton nominees they buried without a vote. The Democrats are a little closer to the crux of the matter when they say that they want to protect individual rights which would become increasingly difficult with so many “out-of the-mainstream” radical conservatives on the bench. Their concerns about the GOP steamrolling the rights of a sizable minority and the weakening of the Senate’s ability to counterbalance an overreaching executive branch are also quite valid. But this is not the whole picture. The underlying truth of what is happening is really far more frightening and considerably more dangerous.

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:55 PM
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1. A Horrifying Vision...
But I find hope in it. There are signs of cracks in the firmament showing up already, small ones albeit, indices that neither * or they will have a clear run at their dominion. The polls today put him at 43% approval. They also say that congress would be better in the hands of the dems. The press finally found their spine when questioning McCellan re: Newsweek and, *’s recalcitrant stance on stem cells will come back to haunt him. Schaivo didn’t do him any good, people don’t like the patriot act which they are trying to strengthen and people being kicked out of church or refused communion don’t sit well with most of the folks in this country.

Those polls which say the sheeples don’t care for the overall congress at all, do give credibility to the warnings some dems have been giving the pugs, “You won’t be in power forever”. They should pay attention.

As for the dominionists, they have been going at this for over 50 years getting their real foot in the door with raygun and the evil cockroaches he brought with him to the WH. The same one who are hell-bent for destruction now. But if I read you correctly Nancy, their victory will be short lived. Eight years of hell is and has been unimaginable but I feel we are at the tipping point and the wheel will now turn in our direction. I base this on your interpretation that * will start having difficult times as of now. I think his hard times have just begun and each passing day brings him closer to the end. May every day from here on out be a misery for him and thise who made him possible.

One question…the dems will be back in power, I now feel that as a surety…but my hope there is they take heed from these past years and hold the pug's feet to the fire…there is much to be atoned for and the dem's tradition of civility and accommodation better have a steel spine or we will find ourselves in the same place again. They had better restore what has been taken from us and kick the malefactors in the derriere. The dominionists won’t give up, especially now that they’ve tasted blood, and the dems better make sure it never happens again. When they controlled congress in the past they made an effort to be fair and accommodating. So much so that they’ve nearly accommodated us out of our democracy. Do you see that they will gain themselves and finally stand up for us and our rights? Will they stop selling us downriver in the name of senate civility?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:00 PM
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2. Also, What Do You See For Frist?
Can we hope he will be toast?
Oh and BTW, you done did good again Nancy. Chilling but so good!
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:11 PM
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8. Frist will lose the nomination for 2008
despite all his pandering. But he does have progressed Sun conjunct progressed Jupiter right now through early next year. That protects him somewhat and describes his leadership position. What is really interesting is that Saturn will be square that Sun Jupiter from 6/7 through 6/22, at roughly the same time that Saturn will be square the Congress' Moon position. Something will be going down around then that will be very upsetting.

I am also wondering about the really ferocious aspects in the fall. I wonder if that will be about the Supreme Court.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:52 PM
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10. I hope you're right about Frist
I think he's trying now to get it but when I sit down and sense about Frist and Bush I get the sense that Bush doesn't care anything at all about Frist and doesn't consider him a friend or anything like that. Not even a collague. From what I can sense there's a lot of tension with Frist about Bush. He wants to be the 2008 nominee and wants Bush to support him because whoever is the nominee will have to have his approval and support in order for people to vote for them. I think right now he and McCain are battling it out with Bush. Frist has been catering to the right people ever since the Terri Schavio ordeal and he's not running again for his Senate seat in 2006 and it's currently up for grabs for next year's midterms. Right now I sense Corker is going to take his seat. He recently signed on his team someone who worked with the SBVT people and I just sense he'll get the seat.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:26 PM
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13. Frist isn't running for reelection?
He plans to just run for pres from 2007 onward? I hadn't heard that. Well, no matter. He is inundated with Saturn on his natal Mercury/ Sun conjunction through the winter fo 2008. I can't imagine him winning the nomination on those planets. Good riddance!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:41 PM
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16. No he's not
I saw it on a Senate site that he wasn't running and last year my now ex-mayor told he was running and he wasn't running for re-election for mayor.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:00 PM
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6. I think the Dems are fighting well right now
They are showing more spine than they have in a long time, but they don't have much power to work with. I think the radicals have gotten too arrogant and are starting to show their hand too much. They have been preparing this for along time and only now are really beginning to really show what they are up to, just like a cancer. That is why I felt it so important for people to think beyond the issues being discussed about the filibuster and look at the large picture of what these people are trying to create. It all came together for me when I heard Chris Hedges on the Democracy Now interview.

I don't know when the Dems will regain power. But it is possible that even if a Republican wins the next time, he won't be an evangelist. That would be some improvement.
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justsomegirl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:39 PM
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3. well done..
have you taken a look at Laura Bush's transits while she's in the Middle East?
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:01 PM
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7. I haven't really looked at Laura's chart
but she seems to be on a roll recently. She is much less wooden and speaking her mind a little more. She doesn't always adhere to the party line.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 03:51 PM
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4. Thank You, Nancy.
Edited on Fri May-20-05 03:52 PM by anitar1
I have been reading your excellent information on Starlight News for some time and always look forward to the next report.In spite of the depressing news these days, I feel a tiny bit of optimism.The difficult part, for me, is waiting for them to destroy themselves, which I believe they will eventually.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:11 PM
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5. Thx Nancy!
Your writings are wonderful!

They give me hope, and help to keep me focusing on the good in life, despite the evil of this * admin. We will grow and get thru this!
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:11 PM
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9. Jonathan Chait talks about the Air Force Academy
He says the Christian Right is showing what they really want for America

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-chait20may20,0,738482.column
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:41 PM
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11. Wow! That article packed quite a punch!
I'm still mired in the doom & gloom state of mind, feeling hopeless and powerless against this republican tsunami of insanity, criminality, rigidity and hatred.

My professional life has simply evaporated under republican political domination, and I'm feeling discouraged, confused, and (at 55) too old to start over at something else...which is precisely what I HAVE to do.

This sentence in your article said it all for me:
"The US chart also gives us some indications about what is going on at present. Transiting Saturn is conjunct US Mercury for its final pass (exact from 5/19 – 5/28), exacerbated by a quincunx from transiting Pluto (5/15 – 5/25). Besides the pressure this aspect has been exerting on currency and trade issues since August 2004, it also has a negative, contracting, intimidating influence on the media and on the public mood in general.

These are truly pivotal, critical times in the U.S., and with republican ownership of the election process, it is really frightening to imagine what it might take to extricate ourselves from this ruthless republican rule.

The media moguls need to be stung, and stung badly, by their own if the political turnaround could possibly come from WITHIN our country. Anymore, I'm not sure the eventual turnaround will be in the hands of our own countrymen.

Thanks again for your great articles, Nancy! :loveya: Keep up the good work.

:kick:




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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:46 PM
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12. Isn't The Saddam Lingerie Shot
indicative of unsuspected problems for * during this time period? This is a good example of why it is sometimes so difficult for astrologers to pin down exactly how things will play out. Who in their right mind could have predicted this particular incident?
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:30 PM
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14. I've been noting lots of references to the abuse of prisoners
by the US in the news recently. The Newsweek story and all the noise surrounding it has brought it back to the public's mind. Bush making alot of noise just brought attention to the issue.

From now through late June there is a good bit of Saturn on Bush. But July and August, especially August, he could get very aggressive again. Then he slams into Saturn again for quite a while come September.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 05:57 PM
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15. I'm just waiting for Pluto to move on to Capricorn
Edited on Sun May-22-05 05:58 PM by NEOBuckeye
I've had it with the Dominionists and the ascendancy of their self-righteous, self-serving brand of ANTI-Christianity. We've seen a few good things come out of Pluto's transit of Sagittarius, such as the accelerated decay, rebirth and transformation of education in all forms, but re-empowered reactionary religion has been a real nightmare.

Ascendant "Christian" Dominionism isn't doing any of us -- or them -- any good in the long run. Even if they do succeed in taking over this country before Pluto leaves Sag for another 240 years in November 2008, they will ultimately be overwhelmed and swept away by the implications of the energy crisis, which have quietly been manifesting below the surface of general public awareness. The Old Testament's Ten Commandments and the corrupt, egomaniacal ministries of Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Sun Myung Moon will have no answer for Peak Oil, Peak Water and other issues of our resource mismanagement that will force rapid and revolutionary readjustment of our lifestyles if we don't take action to address these problems now.

Great article, Nancy!
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 06:51 PM
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17. Exactly as predicted!
Tensions easing tonight, with the passing of the two significant aspects involved: transiting Saturn quincunx Venus and transiting Pluto conjunct Venus.

At present, the natal configurations of Pluto conjunct Venus and Saturn quincunx Venus have moved to an exact position, precise to the minute on Monday, May 23 and triggered by a Moon/ Saturn conjunction late Friday, May 20. Tensions, tempers, and deep sorrow over the situation will escalate through May 23, with May 20 being a very somber and tense day.

There may be a very brief respite in the situation beginning after May 23, but the ongoing feeling of bitter struggle will by no means be resolved. In the chart, Venus rules the 7th house of relationships, bringing some of the current intensity into the relations between the parties. As we move through June 2005, transiting Pluto will move to conjunct Mercury, ruler of the 3rd and 6th houses, suggesting intensified rhetoric (Mercury and the 3rd house) and power struggles over the daily flow of activity (6th house). Mid-June is likely to bring an especially difficult feeling of hopelessness and total lack of comity, when Saturn reaches a square to the natal 7th house Moon, from June 7 to June 15.

Again, things may ease somewhat during July and August 2005, but it is merely the calm before the storm. Beginning to build again in September and intensifying into major battle mode from mid-September to early December 2005, Congress will be on the frontlines of a renewed and brutal bloodbath in America’s 21st Century Culture War. Not only will Pluto be returning for its last prolonged crossing of first Mercury and then Venus in the 109th Congress chart, but Uranus will station in almost exact square to natal Mars, to which it is already natally in square aspect. In addition, transiting Mars will make a station quincunx the exact Mercury/Pluto conjunction. This combination suggests a vehement reinvigorating of ideological fervor, augmented by a very angry and aggressive attitude. Tempers will be boiling over, and the most belligerent and brutal tactics imaginable are likely to be used.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 07:23 PM
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18. Dead on,Nancy!
"... mid-September to early December 2005, Congress will be on the frontlines of a renewed and brutal bloodbath in America’s 21st Century Culture War."

Does this sound like maybe the next Supreme appt? They did leave the door open for extraordinary circumstances, that would sure fit the bill!

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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 07:35 PM
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19. I think it will likely be about Rehnquist's replacement
But I suppose it could be anything. It would be worse it was O'Connor.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:12 PM
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20. Speak of the devil - Rehnquist in the news on a quiet trip to med center.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/23/AR2005052300702.html

snip/
Rehnquist was wheeled into the Capitol Medical Department

It was not immediately clear why Rehnquist went to the Capitol. Reporters' calls to officials at the Supreme Court and the Medical Department were not immediately returned.

The Supreme Court has two nurses on its staff but no physician. In the past, some justices have used the Capitol Medical Department, which is one long block away from the court.
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Time seems to be accelerating, lately. No chance to catch our wind between events & crisis' - seems like.


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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 12:55 PM
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21. Any thoughts about the transiting conj. of Merc/Venus/Saturn
opposing U.S. Pluto on June 26th - 28th? Transiting Mars will also be opposing transiting Jupiter during that time.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:42 PM
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22. Good find, Dover! I missed that one.
I would think it would be a strong trigger to Saturn conjunct US Pluto, which will be almost exact. US 2nd house Pluto would be US wealth and greed. So I would think that maybe oil would go up, the dollar would go down, or maybe China would announce it is sick of carrying US debt. Or maybe China will loosen up their currency with respect to the dollar and the dollar will drop like a stone. In other words, something that will bring a contraction to the US sense of wealth and force us to curb our greed. But what ever it is will lighten up after a few days and then not seem so bad when the transit is over.
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