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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:03 AM
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Kucinich's chart for Nov. 4 thru the end of the year looks extremely turbulent
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 07:08 AM by Dover
The Saturn/Uranus opposition will set off a natal square between his natal 12th hs. Pisces moon and his 3rd house Uranus in Gemini (transiting Uranus is approaching his Moon). And transiting Venus in 9th Hs. Sagittarius joins the configuration opposite his natal Uranus to complete a T-square.

It also looks like the recent new moon strongly affected his chart, conjuncting his natal 6th house Neptune, squaring his MC (7+ degrees Cap) while sextiling his 5th house Saturn in Leo.

And longer term - transiting Pluto will be crossing his Midheaven (Career) in a couple of years.

Anyway, just one more piece of the puzzle and confirmation that there is gonna be something big happening on Nov. 4.

The Moon has to do with the public as well as feelings.






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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 10:39 AM
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1. Can you help us interpret this?
Turbulent sounds like some bad times ahead and Pluto crossing his midheaven sounds like a major transformation in his career. Could he move from elected office to being involved in some kind of movement, as Al Gore did?

Also, could you explain how this ties into November 4th?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:12 AM
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7. The times will be turbulent for all of us, me thinks. But some people's charts
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 05:56 AM by Dover
are connected more than others. I'll only focus on the natal aspects that are activated
in November.

Dennis has a natal Moon/Uranus square which is a challenge to one's emotional security (moon) because Uranus continues to impose change, upheaval, desire for independence etc. on one. Thinking about his early life living out of a car, moving a lot and not having a very settled home life for much of his youth is a very clear picture of how these energies can manifest. Perhaps the universe is challenging him to find a deeper center to draw his security from. The moon represents the home, mother, family/ancestry, the past, the psychic/intuitive/receptive feminine energy (ultra-sensitive, particularly in Pisces), the emotional/feeling nature, nurture, etc. It is quite likely that his mother or important women in his life personified the quintessential nontraditional, independent modern woman, who might have been very stimulating but might not have provided the kind of nurturing a young child needs. And yet she too is challenging the development of that aspect of his deeper self. He likely also had to sacrifice emotional connection to others due to these constant changes and might have been very lonely or cut off (moon in 12th house). And these moon/uranus energies might also challenge him to integrate the head vs. the heart or emotional expression. His natal 3rd house Uranus is in the intellectual air sign of Gemini and in the 3rd house which is Gemini's natural home. 3rd house is also communication and he has probably had to learn to balance the head and heart in his communication style and speeches.
The generation born with Uranus in Cancer share many of these qualities and challenges as well.

SO...Nov. 4 (actually most of November) this natal aspect will be set off as the transiting Uranus conjuncts his natal 12th house moon and opposes transiting Saturn in Virgo which is in his 6th house. This Saturn/Uranus opposition is what we've been talking about for many months as it has it's very first (of five) exact oppositions which happens to land on the day of our election. So Dennis will be in the thick of it...whatever IT is. He will have his own sense of security rattled by these events and perhaps finds himself forced to make an important decision or change as events erupt. As I said, the Moon also represents the public, so there may be some kind of public upheaval or another stolen election (uranus also has to do with electronic things like computer e-voting). There may be something else
that happens in his personal life regarding women. The old is challenging the new and forcing a shift and Dennis has experience with these things and may play some kind of role in stabilizing or
bringing voice to events. I just don't know. Just one more thing going on in his chart is that transiting Neptune is in Aquarius in his 11th Hs (friends and groups) and forms a beautiful trine to his natal Uranus which looks to me as though he might indeed offer important inspiration and spiritual ideals/vision in a speech or through alignment with a group that represents this change
on a collective level.

As for Pluto crossing his MC (and also squaring his 6th house Neptune) in a couple of years, it could be many things. Perhaps anther crisis, power plays, maybe health concerns, involvement in or subject of an investigation. It's possible that he might be given more power and that others try to undermine or misunderstand his intent. There are just so many things. But ultimately it will bring a change to his career and perhaps his public persona. Remember that Pluto in Caprcorn is breaking down institutions and he is part of an institution, so once again there will be changes to his other 'home' in Congress and perhaps the congressional body itself might dissolve. Pluto also teaches us that our ego attachments and identifications are NOT who we are.

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I hope some of the other astrologers will chime in about his chart and transits.

I see the chart I posted timed out and disappeared so here's a permanent one. This chart shows his Part of Fortune in the 6th house and also part of the coming Nov. equation (transiting Saturn will conjunct it as it opposes Uranus!). So perhaps this is truly a fateful day for him. In political/ social terms the 6th house can represent worker's rights and health care to name two. It is the place in the chart where we learn the meaning of service.



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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:36 PM
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8. I'm so sad to hear about Kucinich's sister.
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 08:03 PM by Dover
I didn't know he had a sister. An army vet as well. Blessings on him and his family.

In my survey of his chart for this month, I only dedicated one sentence to the possibility that
his transits might indicate a personal issue with a woman. In fact, despite the election scenario, the loss of his sister turned out to be the main event. As with Obama, this new phase in his life has come with significant loss.

And it seems even Dennis's home is under attack (paintballs).
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/11/Kucinichs_home_targeted_by_vandals/UPI-57361226441629

In astrology the third house (where his natal Uranus resides) is associated with siblings, neighbors and immediate surroundings, among other things which is natally in square to his Moon (women, mother, family, home, the public, etc.), both of which were connected to the transiting Saturn/Uranus opposition.

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Beth Ann Kucinich, youngest sister of Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), has died.

Ms. Kucinich, an Army veteran, succumbed to acute respiratory distress syndrome at Veteran's Hospital in Cleveland on Tuesday. She had been on life support during her three-week battle.

"Our brother Perry passed away last December. Beth Ann never got over Perry's sudden passing. The two had been inseparable. She talked about Perry constantly and she longed to be with him," said the Congressman.

The Kucinich family will receive visitors as Golubski Funeral Home, 6500 Fullerton Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio on Wednesday, November 12, 4pm to 9pm, and on Thursday from 9:30 to 11:00am, at which time the funeral will begin. Ms. Kucinich will be interred at Cleveland's Calvary Cemetery.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3596323
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:29 PM
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9. My thoughts have been with him today.
:(

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 02:18 PM
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2. I'd had a slight hope that he might have been selected as VP
but I didn't put much faith in the possibility, only that it would have been good...
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:28 PM
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3. But what does the square signify? I have a huge yearning in my
heart that Obama/Biden will utilize Kucinich by honoring him with some kind of position.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:45 PM
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4. I have no education in astrology but I agree that if Obama/Biden applied Dennis correctly
that it would be of vast benefit to the nation.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:54 PM
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5. Dennis was great the other night, re: bailout
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:55 PM
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6. saturn oppose uranus: exact aspect on Nov 4 2008
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