Has The Lost City Of Atlantis Been Found?

[Cleita]

But cold water has been poured on the idea by internet search giant Google, which says it is highly unlikely.

The grid is situated about 620 miles off west Africa in an area called the Madeira Abyssal Plane.

It consists of a series of cross-cross lines within a rectangluar boundary about 3.5 miles down.

It was spotted by Bernie Bamford from Chester using a underwater exploration tool Google Ocean.

Mr Bamford says the image looks like a "man-made aerial map" of a city.

Dr Charles Orser, curator of historical archaeology at New York State University has described the find as "fascinating."

More at:http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Lost-City-Of-Atlantis-British-Man-Using-Google-Search-Tool-Claims-To-Have-Found-Off-West-Africa/Article/200902315226373?lpos=World_News_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15226373_Lost_City_Of_Atlantis%3A_British_Man_Using_Google_Search_Tool_Claims_To_Have_Found_Off_West_Africa

If the lines are caused by sonar, why don't they show up elsewhere on the Google?

[MorningGlow]

1. Interesting

This is definitely not new--this photo has been kicking around for quite a while--it certainly predates Google Earth. I wonder why they're bringing it up and talking about it like it's new?

Personally I get the feeling that Atlantis was in the location of the Sargasso Sea, which comes close to west Africa. Let us not forget that Atlantis was damned big, so that grid could very well be a part of it.

Sigh. I love anything about Atlantis. I guess I was there during its good period...!

[Dover]

4. That's interesting info MG. I've never seen this image before. Do you have any of those

older links to this photo or sites where it was discussed prior to this current 'revelation'?

Because if it was discussed prior to Google Earth, then is their 'sonar' explanation bogus?

I wish I knew a bit more about sonar mapping.

[Cleita]

7. There's another post in Latest Breaking News with a different picture.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3748850

Nonetheless, I find this exciting.

[MorningGlow]

10. Oh gosh...

I'm not even sure it was online--I definitely remember seeing it in books and on those "unexplained mystery" shows they always have on the Discovery Channel and such. (I've been a keen student of Atlantis for decades.)

The story is worded strangely--Google Earth, or rather Google Ocean, isn't exactly taking credit for discovering it, in that they're not admitting the sonar was done specifically for Google, but they don't exactly clarify that the sonar picture existed before Google and they just picked it up for use with Google Ocean, either!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. fascinating!

Could they put the Alvin down there to see if there are any artifacts?

[Cleita]

5. I suppose if someone financed an expedition to pay for the Alvin they could.

There used to be a society who collected donations to finance expeditions to find Atlantis, but I don't think they ever found anything germaine and eventually disbanded. I can't remember the exact name of it.

[Cleita]

3. Here's a website on Edgar Cayce's readings on Atlantis.

http://all-ez.com/atlantis1.htm

[Dover]

6. Thanks for the article Cleita and the Cayce link.

I've always felt that Atlantis was a massive continent probably tucked into what is now a huge gap between n.w. Africa and the U.S., almost filling that entire space.

[Cleita]

8. What's interesting in Cayce's readings is that he claimed that the Nile

once flowed into the Atlantic and that the Sahara was green and fertile at that time. Science has since proved this to be correct. Also, I remember reading a long time ago that there is supposed to be a large underground lake in the Sahara. Could this be what is left of the original Nile?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

9. Could be

I saw some photos taken from orbit that showed the old paths of rivers in the Sahara. Wish I could find a site with them now--they might help you with locating the lake and the old Nile!

[kentauros]

11. Those lines better not be caused by sonar,

or there would be far more environmental damage to the ocean's seafloor than we are aware of. I know what bathymetry maps look like as well as the route the boats make in creating those maps. If that image is supposed to represent the routes taken by bathymetry-making boats, then they were piloted by people with only a bare minimum of knowledge in how to do their job.

I work for an engineering company that designs pipeline routes, both on and offshore. I know, too, that if the bathymetry people were doing damage to the seafloor that extensibly without all the years of permitting we have to go through just to design the route, then that kind of sonar-based bathymetry wouldn't be used at all. Putting a pipeline into the seafloor does less damage than that image is representing, and it's taken us two years to get to the point we're at, and for a route far smaller than that image represents.

The naysayers don't have all the facts, as usual ;)

[Cleita]

12. Thanks for the technical input.

There also seems to be a building in the center, like a citadel. I can't image a boat would travel a path like that after all the wider paths on the grid.

[kentauros]

13. A boat doing that kind of work would never take paths like that.

If all you want is a map of the ocean floor, then you simply pilot your boat as a farmer would plowing a field. Sail along a straight line until you get some distance past the area to be mapped, turn enough distance to get a little overlap on the next pass and sail back in parallel to the first pass. Just back and forth until you map out the area. Same for a plane flying aerial images on the land masses. You want to cover the most ground in the least amount of time. If your client asks you to go back to a spot for further detail, then you do that well after the fact. But I've never seen that done. We use the sonar data to learn the elevation data and to confirm locations of shipwrecks and other archeological anomalies in order to avoid them in the making of the route.

I could understand the US Navy's sonar doing that kind of damage, however, as they do not seem all that concerned about what they do to the oceans and its inhabitants. Oceanographers and environmentalists would be very interested to know if normal bathymetry was doing this kind of damage, and you can bet it would all be shut down in a heartbeat were that the case. But, I'm not an expert in the field, only knowledgeable in what we use for data collection here.

[Myrina]

14. Having read Graham Hancock's "Underworld" ...

... and about the various stages of ice age/drought the planet has gone through over hundreds of thousands of years, I'm more inclined to believe that site was a 'harbor city' at some point in time, much like in India and Egypt where they're finding tons and tons of artifacts under water ... all it takes is to make Gaia really angry, a typhoon/tsunami or more ice-shelf breakage, and cities/ countries will be no more.

:shrug: